um wheres the 62.5% chance coming from O.o did u have stealth rocks up?
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I forgot to put my Hp back up to max, had it lowered for an Altaria calc, however you can see that the Draco can’t OHKO
Blastoise @ Icium Z
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 140 SpA / 160 SpD / 36 Spe
Modest Nature
- Fake Out
- Blizzard
- Work Up
Fake out into Z Blizzard Donphan
252 SpA Naganadel Acid Downpour (175 BP) vs. 0 HP / 160 SpD Blastoise: 232-274 (84.3 - 99.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+1 140+ SpA Blastoise Subzero Slammer (185 BP) vs. 144 HP / 184+ SpD Altaria-Mega: 328-388 (100.3 - 118.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Not as great as Bronzong but not using 172 Evs is fine
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 140 SpA / 160 SpD / 36 Spe
Modest Nature
- Fake Out
- Blizzard
- Work Up
Fake out into Z Blizzard Donphan
252 SpA Naganadel Acid Downpour (175 BP) vs. 0 HP / 160 SpD Blastoise: 232-274 (84.3 - 99.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+1 140+ SpA Blastoise Subzero Slammer (185 BP) vs. 144 HP / 184+ SpD Altaria-Mega: 328-388 (100.3 - 118.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Not as great as Bronzong but not using 172 Evs is fine
Weavile @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 24 Def / 232 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Fake Out
- Icicle Crash
252 Atk Life Orb Weavile Icicle Crash vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Naganadel: 439-523 (152.9 - 182.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
(e) 252 Atk Life Orb Weavile Fake Out vs. 144 HP / 0 Def Altaria-Mega: 51-60 (15.5 - 18.3%) -- possible 6HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Weavile Icicle Crash vs. 144 HP / 0 Def Altaria-Mega: 315-374 (96.3 - 114.3%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO
252 Atk Life Orb Weavile Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 12 Def Donphan: 45-55 (14 - 17.1%) -- possible 6HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Weavile Icicle Crash vs. 0 HP / 12 Def Donphan: 289-343 (90 - 106.8%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 24 Def / 232 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Fake Out
- Icicle Crash
252 Atk Life Orb Weavile Icicle Crash vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Naganadel: 439-523 (152.9 - 182.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
(e) 252 Atk Life Orb Weavile Fake Out vs. 144 HP / 0 Def Altaria-Mega: 51-60 (15.5 - 18.3%) -- possible 6HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Weavile Icicle Crash vs. 144 HP / 0 Def Altaria-Mega: 315-374 (96.3 - 114.3%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO
252 Atk Life Orb Weavile Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 12 Def Donphan: 45-55 (14 - 17.1%) -- possible 6HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Weavile Icicle Crash vs. 0 HP / 12 Def Donphan: 289-343 (90 - 106.8%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
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Hey mace weavile defs does 3-0, but i think u meant to do fake out calc va mega alt instead of iceshard calc.
So I decided to take a second look at this team to see what other counters I could come up with. Presenting Articuno!
You can add in the rest of the EVs in anywhere and fill in the other two moves to make this a viable set that 3-0s this team! :D
Calcs:
For Naganadel, you just use Z-Blizzard.
252 SpA Naganadel Acid Downpour (175 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Articuno: 232-274 (72.2 - 85.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
156 SpA Articuno Subzero Slammer (185 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Naganadel: 576-680 (200.6 - 236.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
For Altaria-Mega, you also just Z-Blizzard.
100 SpA Pixilate Altaria-Mega Hyper Voice vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Articuno: 115-136 (35.8 - 42.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
156 SpA Articuno Subzero Slammer (185 BP) vs. 144 HP / 184+ SpD Altaria-Mega: 330-390 (100.9 - 119.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
For Donphan, you sub, Z-Blizzard, then Blizzard again. Ice shard can't break sub, so it's fine if you miss blizzard once or twice as long as you have a sub.
156 SpA Articuno Subzero Slammer (185 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Donphan: 674-794 (209.9 - 247.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
244+ Atk Donphan Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Articuno: 45-54 (14 - 16.8%) -- possible 6HKO
Articuno @ Icium Z
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 156 SpA
Serious Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Blizzard
- Substitute
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 156 SpA
Serious Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Blizzard
- Substitute
You can add in the rest of the EVs in anywhere and fill in the other two moves to make this a viable set that 3-0s this team! :D
Calcs:
For Naganadel, you just use Z-Blizzard.
252 SpA Naganadel Acid Downpour (175 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Articuno: 232-274 (72.2 - 85.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
156 SpA Articuno Subzero Slammer (185 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Naganadel: 576-680 (200.6 - 236.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
For Altaria-Mega, you also just Z-Blizzard.
100 SpA Pixilate Altaria-Mega Hyper Voice vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Articuno: 115-136 (35.8 - 42.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
156 SpA Articuno Subzero Slammer (185 BP) vs. 144 HP / 184+ SpD Altaria-Mega: 330-390 (100.9 - 119.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
For Donphan, you sub, Z-Blizzard, then Blizzard again. Ice shard can't break sub, so it's fine if you miss blizzard once or twice as long as you have a sub.
156 SpA Articuno Subzero Slammer (185 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Donphan: 674-794 (209.9 - 247.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
244+ Atk Donphan Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Articuno: 45-54 (14 - 16.8%) -- possible 6HKO
Now for yet another counter that I noticed. Magnezone!
For this one I decided to make an entire set.
For Naganadel, you just use Z-Flash Cannon and OHKO. Magnezone has sturdy so you don't have to worry about Fire Blast.
252+ SpA Magnezone Corkscrew Crash (160 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Naganadel: 370-436 (128.9 - 151.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
For Altaria-Mega, you use Magnet Rise turn 1 so it can't Bulldose. If it megas, use Z-Flash Cannon.
252+ SpA Magnezone Corkscrew Crash (160 BP) vs. 144 HP / 184+ SpD Altaria-Mega: 422-498 (129 - 152.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
If it doesn't mega, use Metal Sound then use Z-Flash Cannon.
252+ SpA Magnezone Corkscrew Crash (160 BP) vs. -2 144 HP / 184+ SpD Altaria: 423-498 (129.3 - 152.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
For Donphan, use Magnet Rise turn 1. If it uses a ground move, Flash Cannon turn 2, and Z-Flash Cannon turn 3. If it subs, just keep using Flash Cannon until it can be OHKOed by Round, then use Round. If it uses sub turn 1, use Flash Cannon twice, then use round (which goes through sub).
252+ Atk Donphan Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Magnezone: 20-24 (7.1 - 8.5%) -- possibly the worst move ever
252+ SpA Magnezone Flash Cannon vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Donphan: 217-256 (67.6 - 79.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Magnezone Round vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Donphan: 109-129 (33.9 - 40.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Magnezone @ Steelium Z
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Magnet Rise
- Flash Cannon
- Metal Sound
- Round
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Magnet Rise
- Flash Cannon
- Metal Sound
- Round
For this one I decided to make an entire set.
For Naganadel, you just use Z-Flash Cannon and OHKO. Magnezone has sturdy so you don't have to worry about Fire Blast.
252+ SpA Magnezone Corkscrew Crash (160 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Naganadel: 370-436 (128.9 - 151.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
For Altaria-Mega, you use Magnet Rise turn 1 so it can't Bulldose. If it megas, use Z-Flash Cannon.
252+ SpA Magnezone Corkscrew Crash (160 BP) vs. 144 HP / 184+ SpD Altaria-Mega: 422-498 (129 - 152.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
If it doesn't mega, use Metal Sound then use Z-Flash Cannon.
252+ SpA Magnezone Corkscrew Crash (160 BP) vs. -2 144 HP / 184+ SpD Altaria: 423-498 (129.3 - 152.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
For Donphan, use Magnet Rise turn 1. If it uses a ground move, Flash Cannon turn 2, and Z-Flash Cannon turn 3. If it subs, just keep using Flash Cannon until it can be OHKOed by Round, then use Round. If it uses sub turn 1, use Flash Cannon twice, then use round (which goes through sub).
252+ Atk Donphan Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Magnezone: 20-24 (7.1 - 8.5%) -- possibly the worst move ever
252+ SpA Magnezone Flash Cannon vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Donphan: 217-256 (67.6 - 79.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Magnezone Round vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Donphan: 109-129 (33.9 - 40.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Since most of these counters use Z-moves, I decided to make a non-Z-move counter. Presenting Lucario-Mega!
I added High Jump Kick to finish the set, even though it is not needed to beat this team.
To beat Naganadel, Meteor Mash then Bullet Punch if it lives.
252 SpA Naganadel Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 4+ SpD Lucario-Mega: 288-340 (83.7 - 98.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Adaptability Lucario-Mega Meteor Mash vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Naganadel: 276-326 (96.1 - 113.5%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
252 Atk Adaptability Lucario-Mega Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Naganadel: 124-146 (43.2 - 50.8%) -- 2.3% chance to 2HKO
For Alteria, if it doesn't mega and just Roosts, then Meteor Mash until it's in Bullet Punch range.
252 Atk Adaptability Lucario-Mega Meteor Mash vs. 144 HP / 0 Def Altaria: 234-276 (71.5 - 84.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Adaptability Lucario-Mega Bullet Punch vs. 144 HP / 0 Def Altaria: 104-124 (31.8 - 37.9%) -- 91.4% chance to 3HKO
80 Atk Altaria Bulldoze vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Lucario-Mega: 80-96 (23.2 - 27.9%) -- 82.5% chance to 4HKO
If it megas, then Meteor Mash OHKOS.
252 Atk Adaptability Lucario-Mega Meteor Mash vs. 144 HP / 0 Def Altaria-Mega: 392-464 (119.8 - 141.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
For Donphan, use Magnet Rise turn 1 and then keep using Meteor Mash. If Donphan subs turn 1 then subs 3 more times and uses Endevor, use Bullet Punch and win (it has same priority as Ice Shard, but you are faster so you go first).
252+ Atk Donphan Ice Shard vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Lucario-Mega: 25-30 (7.2 - 8.7%) -- possibly the worst move ever
252 Atk Adaptability Lucario-Mega Meteor Mash vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Donphan: 182-216 (56.6 - 67.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Adaptability Lucario-Mega Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Donphan: 82-98 (25.5 - 30.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
Lucario-Mega @ Lucarionite
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Careful Nature
- Meteor Mash
- Bullet Punch
- Magnet Rise
- High Jump Kick
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Careful Nature
- Meteor Mash
- Bullet Punch
- Magnet Rise
- High Jump Kick
I added High Jump Kick to finish the set, even though it is not needed to beat this team.
To beat Naganadel, Meteor Mash then Bullet Punch if it lives.
252 SpA Naganadel Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 4+ SpD Lucario-Mega: 288-340 (83.7 - 98.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Adaptability Lucario-Mega Meteor Mash vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Naganadel: 276-326 (96.1 - 113.5%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
252 Atk Adaptability Lucario-Mega Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Naganadel: 124-146 (43.2 - 50.8%) -- 2.3% chance to 2HKO
For Alteria, if it doesn't mega and just Roosts, then Meteor Mash until it's in Bullet Punch range.
252 Atk Adaptability Lucario-Mega Meteor Mash vs. 144 HP / 0 Def Altaria: 234-276 (71.5 - 84.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Adaptability Lucario-Mega Bullet Punch vs. 144 HP / 0 Def Altaria: 104-124 (31.8 - 37.9%) -- 91.4% chance to 3HKO
80 Atk Altaria Bulldoze vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Lucario-Mega: 80-96 (23.2 - 27.9%) -- 82.5% chance to 4HKO
If it megas, then Meteor Mash OHKOS.
252 Atk Adaptability Lucario-Mega Meteor Mash vs. 144 HP / 0 Def Altaria-Mega: 392-464 (119.8 - 141.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
For Donphan, use Magnet Rise turn 1 and then keep using Meteor Mash. If Donphan subs turn 1 then subs 3 more times and uses Endevor, use Bullet Punch and win (it has same priority as Ice Shard, but you are faster so you go first).
252+ Atk Donphan Ice Shard vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Lucario-Mega: 25-30 (7.2 - 8.7%) -- possibly the worst move ever
252 Atk Adaptability Lucario-Mega Meteor Mash vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Donphan: 182-216 (56.6 - 67.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Adaptability Lucario-Mega Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Donphan: 82-98 (25.5 - 30.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
Sorry, was busy over the weekend, so this is a bit late.
Cycle 1 has ended! lost heros created the "best' counter with their Delphox!
Here is Cycle 2's team:
Remember, Pokemon can chose to not mega in certain matchups, also please remember to vote, and submit teams for next cycle!
Good luck!
Cycle 1 has ended! lost heros created the "best' counter with their Delphox!
Here is Cycle 2's team:
Gyarados-Mega @ Gyaradosite
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 248 HP / 12 Def / 32 SpD / 216 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Taunt
- Waterfall
- Dragon Dance
- Outrage
Magearna @ Fairium Z
Ability: Soul-Heart
EVs: 248 HP / 20 SpA / 24 SpD / 216 Spe
Bold Nature
- Fleur Cannon
- Calm Mind
- Iron Defense
- Pain Split
Charizard-Mega-X @ Charizardite X
Ability: Tough Claws
EVs: 212 HP / 16 Atk / 176 SpD / 104 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Belly Drum
- Outrage
- Flare Blitz
- Flame Charge
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 248 HP / 12 Def / 32 SpD / 216 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Taunt
- Waterfall
- Dragon Dance
- Outrage
Magearna @ Fairium Z
Ability: Soul-Heart
EVs: 248 HP / 20 SpA / 24 SpD / 216 Spe
Bold Nature
- Fleur Cannon
- Calm Mind
- Iron Defense
- Pain Split
Charizard-Mega-X @ Charizardite X
Ability: Tough Claws
EVs: 212 HP / 16 Atk / 176 SpD / 104 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Belly Drum
- Outrage
- Flare Blitz
- Flame Charge
Remember, Pokemon can chose to not mega in certain matchups, also please remember to vote, and submit teams for next cycle!
Good luck!
FlyZ Landorus-T 3-0s this team....
Edit : Krytocon optimized EVs, so danks............
Landorus-Therian (M) @ Flyinium Z
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 168 HP / 156 Atk / 44 SpD / 140 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Rock Tomb
- Fly
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 168 HP / 156 Atk / 44 SpD / 140 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Rock Tomb
- Fly
vs Mega Gyarados
0+ Atk Mold Breaker Gyarados-Mega Waterfall vs. 168 HP / 0 Def Landorus-Therian: 306-360 (84.7 - 99.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+1 156+ Atk Landorus-Therian Supersonic Skystrike (175 BP) vs. 248 HP / 12 Def Gyarados-Mega: 439-517 (111.7 - 131.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
vs Magearna
20 SpA Magearna Twinkle Tackle (195 BP) vs. 168 HP / 44 SpD Landorus-Therian: 306-360 (84.7 - 99.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
156+ Atk Landorus-Therian Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0+ Def Magearna: 296-350 (81.3 - 96.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
vs Mega Charizard X
156+ Atk Landorus-Therian Rock Tomb vs. 212 HP / 0 Def Charizard-Mega-X: 136-160 (38.8 - 45.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
104+ Atk Landorus-Therian Supersonic Skystrike (175 BP) vs. 212 HP / 0 Def Charizard-Mega-X: 282-333 (80.5 - 95.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
156+ Atk Landorus-Therian Supersonic Skystrike (175 BP) vs. 212 HP / 0 Def Charizard-Mega-X: 292-345 (83.4 - 98.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
-1 12 Atk Tough Claws Charizard-Mega-X Outrage vs. 168 HP / 0 Def Landorus-Therian: 154-183 (42.6 - 50.6%) -- 2% chance to 2HKO
0+ Atk Mold Breaker Gyarados-Mega Waterfall vs. 168 HP / 0 Def Landorus-Therian: 306-360 (84.7 - 99.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+1 156+ Atk Landorus-Therian Supersonic Skystrike (175 BP) vs. 248 HP / 12 Def Gyarados-Mega: 439-517 (111.7 - 131.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
vs Magearna
20 SpA Magearna Twinkle Tackle (195 BP) vs. 168 HP / 44 SpD Landorus-Therian: 306-360 (84.7 - 99.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
156+ Atk Landorus-Therian Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0+ Def Magearna: 296-350 (81.3 - 96.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
vs Mega Charizard X
156+ Atk Landorus-Therian Rock Tomb vs. 212 HP / 0 Def Charizard-Mega-X: 136-160 (38.8 - 45.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
104+ Atk Landorus-Therian Supersonic Skystrike (175 BP) vs. 212 HP / 0 Def Charizard-Mega-X: 282-333 (80.5 - 95.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
156+ Atk Landorus-Therian Supersonic Skystrike (175 BP) vs. 212 HP / 0 Def Charizard-Mega-X: 292-345 (83.4 - 98.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
-1 12 Atk Tough Claws Charizard-Mega-X Outrage vs. 168 HP / 0 Def Landorus-Therian: 154-183 (42.6 - 50.6%) -- 2% chance to 2HKO
Edit : Krytocon optimized EVs, so danks............
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Waterium Z Primarina 3-0s...
Primarina @ Waterium Z
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 232 SpA / 24 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Icy Wind
- Substitute
- Surf
- Moonblast
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 232 SpA / 24 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Icy Wind
- Substitute
- Surf
- Moonblast
Spam Moonblast to KO Gyarados [232+ SpA Primarina Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 32 SpD Gyarados: 160-189 (40.6 - 47.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO]
Just use Z-Surf into Surf against Mega Charizard X : 232+ SpA Primarina Hydro Vortex (175 BP) vs. 212 HP / 176 SpD Charizard-Mega-X: 286-337 (81.7 - 96.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Against Magearna, IcyWind T1 into Sub into SurfSPAM till they attack u into Torrent range(if CalmMind) or Torrent boosted Z-Surf KOs if they use ZMove right away...
Just use Z-Surf into Surf against Mega Charizard X : 232+ SpA Primarina Hydro Vortex (175 BP) vs. 212 HP / 176 SpD Charizard-Mega-X: 286-337 (81.7 - 96.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Against Magearna, IcyWind T1 into Sub into SurfSPAM till they attack u into Torrent range(if CalmMind) or Torrent boosted Z-Surf KOs if they use ZMove right away...
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probably some kind of meloetta zzz
Reserving Zeraora
Whimsicott @ Occa Berry
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast / Giga Drain
- Substitute
- Protect
- Leech Seed
Zardx and gyara pretty self explanatory.
Magearna, Sub until miss/doesnt attack/theyre at -2, then seed up.
-2 20 SpA Magearna Fleur Cannon vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Whimsicott: 112-133 (34.5 - 41%) -- 64.5% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast / Giga Drain
- Substitute
- Protect
- Leech Seed
Zardx and gyara pretty self explanatory.
Magearna, Sub until miss/doesnt attack/theyre at -2, then seed up.
-2 20 SpA Magearna Fleur Cannon vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Whimsicott: 112-133 (34.5 - 41%) -- 64.5% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
Welp, with 3 submission the second cycle comes to a close. Congrats to Wrath of Alakazam with his Flyinium Z Landorus counter.
For the next cycle, we'll be using a team by stableprince569.
Remember to vote by liking the post containing each of your favorite counters, aand also that you can vote for multiple counters!
For the next cycle, we'll be using a team by stableprince569.
Archeops @ Choice Band
Ability: Defeatist
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Head Smash
- Fly
- Outrage
- Earthquake
Xurkitree @ Electrium Z
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 244 HP / 108 Def / 144 SpD / 12 Spe
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Zap Cannon
- Electroweb
- Tail Glow
- Grass Knot
Carracosta @ Waterium Z
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 16 Atk / 252 SpA / 240 Spe
Naive Nature
- Shell Smash
- Hydro Pump
- Protect
- Aqua Jet
Ability: Defeatist
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Head Smash
- Fly
- Outrage
- Earthquake
Xurkitree @ Electrium Z
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 244 HP / 108 Def / 144 SpD / 12 Spe
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Zap Cannon
- Electroweb
- Tail Glow
- Grass Knot
Carracosta @ Waterium Z
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 16 Atk / 252 SpA / 240 Spe
Naive Nature
- Shell Smash
- Hydro Pump
- Protect
- Aqua Jet
Remember to vote by liking the post containing each of your favorite counters, aand also that you can vote for multiple counters!
look at this weak ass team
Who made it? he's bad
Whimsicott @ Fairium Z
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 76 Def / 180 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Leech Seed
- Substitute
- Protect
- Charm
-2 252 Atk Choice Band Archeops Head Smash vs. +1 252 HP / 76 Def Whimsicott: 135-160 (41.6 - 49.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 SpA Carracosta Hydro Vortex (185 BP) vs. 252 HP / 180+ SpD Whimsicott: 104-123 (32 - 37.9%) -- 94.1% chance to 3HKO
+2 16 Atk Carracosta Aqua Jet vs. 252 HP / 76 Def Whimsicott: 49-58 (15.1 - 17.9%) -- possible 6HKO
0 SpA Xurkitree Gigavolt Havoc (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 180+ SpD Whimsicott: 153-181 (47.2 - 55.8%) -- 80.1% chance to 2HKO
the only way this whimsi can possibly lose is a crit from archeops, 5 crits from carracosta, or zap cannon hit and 4 turns of paralysis in a row from xurkitree (protip: it's not going to happen)
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Excadrill @ Air Balloon
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Iron Head
252+ Atk Mold Breaker Excadrill Earthquake vs. 244 HP / 108 Def Xurkitree: 422-500 (114.6 - 135.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Mold Breaker Excadrill Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Carracosta: 288-342 (99.6 - 118.3%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
87.5% kill percentage upwards counts as kill
252+ Atk Mold Breaker Excadrill Iron Head vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Archeops: 420-494 (144.3 - 169.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Carracosta and Xurkittree are outsped and ohkoed.
With Air Ballon Archeops best attack is
Fly:
252 Atk Choice Band Archeops Fly vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Excadrill: 176-207 (48.6 - 57.1%) -- 94.1% chance to 2HKO
And if somebody asks the Aqua Jet calc from Carracosta:
16 Atk Carracosta Aqua Jet vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Excadrill: 144-170 (39.7 - 46.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO.
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Iron Head
252+ Atk Mold Breaker Excadrill Earthquake vs. 244 HP / 108 Def Xurkitree: 422-500 (114.6 - 135.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Mold Breaker Excadrill Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Carracosta: 288-342 (99.6 - 118.3%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
87.5% kill percentage upwards counts as kill
252+ Atk Mold Breaker Excadrill Iron Head vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Archeops: 420-494 (144.3 - 169.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Carracosta and Xurkittree are outsped and ohkoed.
With Air Ballon Archeops best attack is
Fly:
252 Atk Choice Band Archeops Fly vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Excadrill: 176-207 (48.6 - 57.1%) -- 94.1% chance to 2HKO
And if somebody asks the Aqua Jet calc from Carracosta:
16 Atk Carracosta Aqua Jet vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Excadrill: 144-170 (39.7 - 46.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO.
Tapu Lele @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Psychic Surge
EVs: 28 Def / 4 SpA / 132 SpD / 192 Spe
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Psychic
OS's Xurk when parad
lives ZZap - 2kos - 4 SpA Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 244 HP / 144+ SpD Xurkitree in Psychic Terrain: 184-217 (50 - 58.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 0 SpA Xurkitree Gigavolt Havoc (190 BP) vs. 0 HP / 132+ SpD Tapu Lele: 237-280 (84.3 - 99.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
lives hydro - 2kos
kills or activates defeatist on archeops - 252 Atk Choice Band Defeatist Archeops Head Smash vs. 0 HP / 28 Def Tapu Lele: 237-280 (84.3 - 99.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Ability: Psychic Surge
EVs: 28 Def / 4 SpA / 132 SpD / 192 Spe
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Psychic
OS's Xurk when parad
lives ZZap - 2kos - 4 SpA Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 244 HP / 144+ SpD Xurkitree in Psychic Terrain: 184-217 (50 - 58.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 0 SpA Xurkitree Gigavolt Havoc (190 BP) vs. 0 HP / 132+ SpD Tapu Lele: 237-280 (84.3 - 99.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
lives hydro - 2kos
kills or activates defeatist on archeops - 252 Atk Choice Band Defeatist Archeops Head Smash vs. 0 HP / 28 Def Tapu Lele: 237-280 (84.3 - 99.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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Clefable @ Custap Berry
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 128 SpD / 128 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Endure
- Moonblast
- Moonlight
- Amnesia
252 SpA Carracosta Hydro Vortex (185 BP) vs. +2 252 HP / 128 SpD Clefable: 108-127 (27.4 - 32.2%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
0 Atk Carracosta Aqua Jet vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Clefable: 60-72 (15.2 - 18.2%) -- possible 6HKO
Stall
Archeops takes 196 Recoil Damage (95 HP remaining) - Endure -> Custap MB ->
0 SpA Clefable Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Archeops: 139-165 (47.7 - 56.7%) -- 86.3% chance to 2HKO
Possible damage amounts: (139, 141, 142, 144, 145, 148, 150, 151, 153, 154, 156, 157, 159, 160, 162, 165)
Speed Creeps Xurk -> Amnesia, Stall out Xurk
0 SpA Xurkitree Gigavolt Havoc (190 BP) vs. +2 252 HP / 128 SpD Clefable: 157-186 (39.8 - 47.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
0 SpA Xurkitree Zap Cannon vs. +2 252 HP / 128 SpD Clefable: 100-118 (25.3 - 29.9%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
0 SpA Xurkitree Grass Knot (60 BP) vs. +2 252 HP / 128 SpD Clefable: 34-40 (8.6 - 10.1%) -- possibly the worst move ever
0 SpA Clefable Moonblast vs. 244 HP / 144+ SpD Xurkitree: 99-117 (26.9 - 31.7%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
Xurk is technically "losable" If Zap hits high roll, zap hits high roll + full para + ZZap Max Roll but that's a .0345% chance of happening
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 128 SpD / 128 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Endure
- Moonblast
- Moonlight
- Amnesia
252 SpA Carracosta Hydro Vortex (185 BP) vs. +2 252 HP / 128 SpD Clefable: 108-127 (27.4 - 32.2%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
0 Atk Carracosta Aqua Jet vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Clefable: 60-72 (15.2 - 18.2%) -- possible 6HKO
Stall
Archeops takes 196 Recoil Damage (95 HP remaining) - Endure -> Custap MB ->
0 SpA Clefable Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Archeops: 139-165 (47.7 - 56.7%) -- 86.3% chance to 2HKO
Possible damage amounts: (139, 141, 142, 144, 145, 148, 150, 151, 153, 154, 156, 157, 159, 160, 162, 165)
Speed Creeps Xurk -> Amnesia, Stall out Xurk
0 SpA Xurkitree Gigavolt Havoc (190 BP) vs. +2 252 HP / 128 SpD Clefable: 157-186 (39.8 - 47.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
0 SpA Xurkitree Zap Cannon vs. +2 252 HP / 128 SpD Clefable: 100-118 (25.3 - 29.9%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
0 SpA Xurkitree Grass Knot (60 BP) vs. +2 252 HP / 128 SpD Clefable: 34-40 (8.6 - 10.1%) -- possibly the worst move ever
0 SpA Clefable Moonblast vs. 244 HP / 144+ SpD Xurkitree: 99-117 (26.9 - 31.7%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
Xurk is technically "losable" If Zap hits high roll, zap hits high roll + full para + ZZap Max Roll but that's a .0345% chance of happening
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Well I'm going to do a counter even though there's no voting period. Since Kyurem-W is banned, and Kyurem-B got banned (twice), regular Kyurem feels left out. Time to show that it can do more than be a noble roar rooster!
The Calcs:
So first off, archeops. Scarf outspeeds and ice beam OHKOS.
252+ SpA Kyurem Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Archeops: 560-662 (215.3 - 254.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
For xurkitree, you still outspeed after an electroweb or zap cannon hit. Earth power 2kos back.
252+ SpA Kyurem Earth Power vs. 244 HP / 144+ SpD Xurkitree: 216-256 (58.6 - 69.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
0 SpA Xurkitree Zap Cannon vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kyurem: 114-134 (29.1 - 34.2%) -- 3.1% chance to 3HKO
0 SpA Xurkitree Gigavolt Havoc (190 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kyurem: 179-211 (45.7 - 53.9%) -- 46.9% chance to 2HKO
0 SpA Xurkitree Grass Knot (120 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kyurem: 76-89 (19.4 - 22.7%) -- possible 5HKO
Basicaly, he would need to hit zap cannon, get para while he uses tail glow, gets another para while he uses z move. That's a lot of hax, so I feel Kyurem is a counter (because is a 50% chance followed by two 25% chances really going to happen much to people other than me?).
For carracosta, just use earth power twice. It doesn't outspeed after shell smash so all it can do is aqua jet pfft.
252 SpA Kyurem Earth Power vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Carracosta: 312-368 (107.9 - 127.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 16 Atk Carracosta Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kyurem: 51-60 (13 - 15.3%) -- possible 7HKO
In conclusion, regular kyurem is good as hyper offence, too!
Kyurem @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Earth Power
- Ice Beam
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Earth Power
- Ice Beam
The Calcs:
So first off, archeops. Scarf outspeeds and ice beam OHKOS.
252+ SpA Kyurem Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Archeops: 560-662 (215.3 - 254.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
For xurkitree, you still outspeed after an electroweb or zap cannon hit. Earth power 2kos back.
252+ SpA Kyurem Earth Power vs. 244 HP / 144+ SpD Xurkitree: 216-256 (58.6 - 69.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
0 SpA Xurkitree Zap Cannon vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kyurem: 114-134 (29.1 - 34.2%) -- 3.1% chance to 3HKO
0 SpA Xurkitree Gigavolt Havoc (190 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kyurem: 179-211 (45.7 - 53.9%) -- 46.9% chance to 2HKO
0 SpA Xurkitree Grass Knot (120 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kyurem: 76-89 (19.4 - 22.7%) -- possible 5HKO
Basicaly, he would need to hit zap cannon, get para while he uses tail glow, gets another para while he uses z move. That's a lot of hax, so I feel Kyurem is a counter (because is a 50% chance followed by two 25% chances really going to happen much to people other than me?).
For carracosta, just use earth power twice. It doesn't outspeed after shell smash so all it can do is aqua jet pfft.
252 SpA Kyurem Earth Power vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Carracosta: 312-368 (107.9 - 127.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 16 Atk Carracosta Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kyurem: 51-60 (13 - 15.3%) -- possible 7HKO
In conclusion, regular kyurem is good as hyper offence, too!
(Fabio) Ampharos-Mega @ Ampharosite
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 248 HP / 148 Def / 108 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Eerie Impulse
- Thunderbolt
- Bulldoze
- Dragon Pulse
Set doesnt really matter, basically it can tank hits from archeops and carracosta and OHKO back with tbolt.
+1 252 Atk Archeops Head Smash vs. 252 HP / 148 Def Ampharos-Mega: 322-381 (83.8 - 99.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
I dont really need to show this cos da floof 4x resists but:
+6 252 SpA Xurkitree Gigavolt Havoc (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 108 SpD Ampharos-Mega: 320-376 (83.3 - 97.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO. And thats max spa xurk.
Meanwhile amphy can bop back with bulldoze or dpulse.
Best thing about it?Fabio cant even get parad That luscious silky hair.
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 248 HP / 148 Def / 108 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Eerie Impulse
- Thunderbolt
- Bulldoze
- Dragon Pulse
Set doesnt really matter, basically it can tank hits from archeops and carracosta and OHKO back with tbolt.
+1 252 Atk Archeops Head Smash vs. 252 HP / 148 Def Ampharos-Mega: 322-381 (83.8 - 99.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
I dont really need to show this cos da floof 4x resists but:
+6 252 SpA Xurkitree Gigavolt Havoc (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 108 SpD Ampharos-Mega: 320-376 (83.3 - 97.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO. And thats max spa xurk.
Meanwhile amphy can bop back with bulldoze or dpulse.
Best thing about it?
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Donphan @ Groundium Z
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Ice Shard
- Rock Tomb
- Counter
- Earthquake
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Ice Shard
- Rock Tomb
- Counter
- Earthquake
A nice viable set that every team can use that happens to beat this.
Outspeed Carracosta and Z-EQ -> Ice Shard (or EQ if they protect) to win.
Click counter against Archeops there's nothing they can do.
252 Atk Choice Band Archeops Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Donphan: 147-174 (45.7 - 54.2%) -- 53.1% chance to 2HKO
Weakest hit deals at least 147 which doubled makes for 294 which is more than Archeops HP.
OHKO Xurk with Z-EQ without problems
Haxorus @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Superpower
- Iron Tail
Hax Outspeeds the entire team, OHKOs Archeops with Iron Tail/Outrage, and has a low chance to OHKO Caracosta with superpower. It 2HKOs Caracosta with EQ/Superpower and Xurkitree with EQ. Also, Hax tanks any of Xurkitree's (it doesn't like the Paralysis from Zap Cannon, though) and caracosta's attacks (except for +2 Z-Hydro pump, but Hax Outspeeds anyway so it doesn't matter).
Calcs V.S.
252+ Atk Haxorus Superpower vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Carracosta: 248-292 (85.8 - 101%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Haxorus Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Carracosta: 206-244 (71.2 - 84.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Carracosta Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Haxorus: 89-105 (30.3 - 35.8%) -- 44.5% chance to 3HKO
252 SpA Carracosta Hydro Vortex (185 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Haxorus: 149-176 (50.8 - 60%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (Hydro Pump base)
16 Atk Carracosta Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Haxorus: 25-30 (8.5 - 10.2%) -- possibly the worst move ever
+2 16 Atk Carracosta Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Haxorus: 51-60 (17.4 - 20.4%) -- possible 5HKO
Calcs V.S.
252 Atk Haxorus Outrage vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Archeops: 306-360 (105.1 - 123.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Haxorus Iron Tail vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Archeops: 340-400 (116.8 - 137.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Calcs V.S.
252+ Atk Haxorus Earthquake vs. 244 HP / 108 Def Xurkitree: 304-358 (82.6 - 97.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
0 SpA Xurkitree Grass Knot (100 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Haxorus: 78-92 (26.6 - 31.3%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
0 SpA Xurkitree Electroweb vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Haxorus: 64-76 (21.8 - 25.9%) -- 3.2% chance to 4HKO
0 SpA Xurkitree Zap Cannon vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Haxorus: 140-165 (47.7 - 56.3%) -- 84% chance to 2HKO (The only way for this team to beat to beat Hax if it hits)
0 SpA Xurkitree Gigavolt Havoc (190 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Haxorus: 221-261 (75.4 - 89%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (Zap Cannon Base)
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Marshtomp @ Eviolite
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 200 HP / 48 Atk / 252 SpD / 8 Spe
Careful Nature
- Yawn
- Counter
- Bulldoze
- Earthquake
Outspeeds -1 xurkitree
48 Atk Marshtomp Bulldoze vs. 243 HP / 108 Def Xurkitree: 138-164 (37.6 - 44.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after 3 layers of Spikes
48 Atk Marshtomp Earthquake vs. 243 HP / 108 Def Xurkitree: 230-272 (62.6 - 74.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after 3 layers of Spikes
Counter Kills Archeops (eq does 49.4 max)
+2 252 SpA Carracosta Hydro Vortex (185 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Marshtomp: 268-316 (77.9 - 91.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
EQ 2kos
Z Hydro into Hydro doesn’t come near killing
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 200 HP / 48 Atk / 252 SpD / 8 Spe
Careful Nature
- Yawn
- Counter
- Bulldoze
- Earthquake
Outspeeds -1 xurkitree
48 Atk Marshtomp Bulldoze vs. 243 HP / 108 Def Xurkitree: 138-164 (37.6 - 44.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after 3 layers of Spikes
48 Atk Marshtomp Earthquake vs. 243 HP / 108 Def Xurkitree: 230-272 (62.6 - 74.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after 3 layers of Spikes
Counter Kills Archeops (eq does 49.4 max)
+2 252 SpA Carracosta Hydro Vortex (185 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Marshtomp: 268-316 (77.9 - 91.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
EQ 2kos
Z Hydro into Hydro doesn’t come near killing
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