jas61292
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Hey everyone! Welcome to the moves poll, where we will decide on the last few competitive moves in our Pokemon's movepool. The moves to be voted on will be those deemed controversial in the moveset discussion.
The controversial moves we will be voting on are listed below. Spell the move and its qualifying include/do not include as you see it below when posting. Do not vote to both include and not include the same move, as that is nonsensical and will result in your vote being deleted. This is NOT a flavor poll; it is a competitive poll. Flavor movepool submission and voting will happen at a later time.
Please post only your votes in this thread. Do not respond to other posts, or your posts will be moderated and you may be warned. You are allowed to say whatever you like in relation to your vote at the bottom of your post, but please do not look to begin a discussion. Please refrain from posting images or links to images in your votes. Keep those comments to #cap on IRC or the PS! CAP Room.
The following movesets have already been decided on, and the included moves required, as of the previous discussion. Take this into account when making your votes.
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CAP22 so far:
cbrevan - Topic Leader
Elite Lord Sigma - Typing Leader
snake_rattler - Abilities Leader
Snobalt - Stats Leader
Deck Knight - Movepool Leader
Concept:
Typing: Fairy/Fighting
Abilities: Natural Cure / Aroma Veil
Stats: 84/78/86/115/88/119
The controversial moves we will be voting on are listed below. Spell the move and its qualifying include/do not include as you see it below when posting. Do not vote to both include and not include the same move, as that is nonsensical and will result in your vote being deleted. This is NOT a flavor poll; it is a competitive poll. Flavor movepool submission and voting will happen at a later time.
Include Moonlight
Do Not Include Moonlight
Include Spikes
Do Not Include Spikes
This poll operates on the multiple bold voting standard, which is detailed here. Make sure to bold your votes and nothing else. A typical vote looks like this:Do Not Include Moonlight
Include Spikes
Do Not Include Spikes
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Please post only your votes in this thread. Do not respond to other posts, or your posts will be moderated and you may be warned. You are allowed to say whatever you like in relation to your vote at the bottom of your post, but please do not look to begin a discussion. Please refrain from posting images or links to images in your votes. Keep those comments to #cap on IRC or the PS! CAP Room.
The following movesets have already been decided on, and the included moves required, as of the previous discussion. Take this into account when making your votes.
In addition, the following moves have been deemed other options that will also be required:Name: Disruption-Shot
Move 1: Aura Sphere
Move 2: Moonblast
Move 3: Taunt / Encore
Move 4: Parting Shot
Ability: Natural Cure
Item: Life Orb
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Nature: Timid
Name: 3-Attack Parting Shot
Move 1: Moonblast
Move 2: Aura Sphere / Focus Blast
Move 3: Sludge Wave
Move 4: Parting Shot
Ability: Natural Cure
Item: Choice Specs / Life Orb
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Nature: Timid
Name: Mixed Offensive Pivot
Move 1: Parting Shot
Move 2: Moonblast
Move 3: Close Combat
Move 4: Energy Ball / Grass Knot / Giga Drain
Ability: Natural Cure
Item: Life Orb
EVs: 204 Atk / 52 SpA / 252 Spe
Nature: Naive
Name: Parting Slumber
Move 1: Yawn
Move 2: Parting Shot
Move 3: Moonblast
Move 4: Aura Sphere
Ability: Natural Cure
Item: Life Orb
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Nature: Timid
Name: Wishful Thinking
Move 1: Moonblast
Move 2: Focus Blast / Hidden Power Ground
Move 3: Wish
Move 4: Parting Shot
Ability: Natural Cure
Item: Life Orb
EVs: 232 HP / 92 SpA / 184 Spe
Nature: Timid
This poll will run for 24 hoursFlash Cannon
Charm
Feather Dance
Snarl
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CAP22 so far:
cbrevan - Topic Leader
Elite Lord Sigma - Typing Leader
snake_rattler - Abilities Leader
Snobalt - Stats Leader
Deck Knight - Movepool Leader
Concept:
Name: Last Act of Defiance
General Description: A Pokemon that is defined by its use of the move Parting Shot.
Justification: Parting Shot is another move that's pretty amazing on paper, but its true usage has yet to be fully explored because it's only available to Pangoro. Pangoro is not the most viable Pokemon OU and is nearly unusable in CAP due to its 4x weakness to Fairy. Moreover, when I've used it in RU (prior it to being banned) and UU, I found myself clicking an attacking move more often than not. With the optimal Parting Shot user in the CAP metagame, we may be able to tap into this move's potential and figure out how it is best utilized. Maybe Last Act of Defiance will be a fast Pokemon that aims to keep up offensive momentum. Maybe it'll use the move like it would use Memento to help a teammate use a boosting move. Maybe it'll be a slow, bulky pivot intended to discourage switching. Maybe it'll do something completely different.
This falls under both actualization and archetype in terms of being a concept. In terms of actualization, it will teach us how to use Parting Shot "properly." Clearly, no other Pokemon, not even Pangoro, comes close to it. Well, users of U-turn, Volt Switch, and Memento come somewhat close, but even then, we'll be able to see what makes Parting Shot different from (and possibly better than) them. In terms of archetype, Last Act of Defiance will give not just the CAP metagame, but also the whole game of Pokemon, a utility Pokemon that we've never seen before, as Parting Shot was not (and still isn't) one of Pangoro's most important assets. Because Parting Shot has so many potential uses, a utility Pokemon such as this can be the ultimate team player for offensive and defensive archetypes alike.
Questions To Be Answered:
- Whether it's pivoting, offensive momentum, Memento-esque support, or something else, what is the "ideal" way to use Parting Shot? Why?
- Considering Pangoro rarely finds the time to use the move, how much should a Pokemon be willing to sacrifice another offensive option for Parting Shot?
- What makes Parting Shot different or similar from Volt Switch, U-turn, and Memento?
- Pangoro is definitely not the ideal Parting Shot user, so what does the ideal user look like?
- What strategies, whether they be certain Pokemon, playstyles, or other factors, will rise to prominence to combat a Parting Shot user?
Typing: Fairy/Fighting
Abilities: Natural Cure / Aroma Veil
Stats: 84/78/86/115/88/119