CAP 4 CAP 4 - Concept Submissions

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I was saying Grass/Dragon so it'll take half damage from Ice and Fire because of Thick Fat. The reason it's Grass is because we don't want it to be to broken.
 
Concept: Glass Cannon
Description: A pokemon with massive elemental attacking power and speed but really, really weak defenses. Something along the lines of Sneasel/Weavile, but special-oriented. (I have a cool scratch sprite we could use, but it kind of looks dragon-ish, which may be a bad thing.)
 
Nekomata said:
Concept: Glass Cannon
Description: A pokemon with massive elemental attacking power and speed but really, really weak defenses. Something along the lines of Sneasel/Weavile, but special-oriented. (I have a cool scratch sprite we could use, but it kind of looks dragon-ish, which may be a bad thing.)
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Syclant says hi.
 
Concept: Typing Means Nothing
Description: Figure out what the absolutely worst possible Offensive and Defensive dual typing is, and make a good pokemon at it. Prove that even a typing like Magcargo's isn't the death sentence it seems.
 
Darth Meanie said:
Concept: Typing Means Nothing
Description: Figure out what the absolutely worst possible Offensive and Defensive dual typing is, and make a good pokemon at it. Prove that even a typing like Magcargo's isn't the death sentence it seems.
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We're not talking about typings. We're talking about the roles a pokemon can do.
 
Concept: Simple
Description: A Pokémon that has Simple and a variety of stat-boosting moves, but has better stats than Bibarel (although it doesn't have Super Fang).
 
We're not talking about typings. We're talking about the roles a pokemon can do.
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And this is exactly what this Pokemon does. It has bad typing both offensively and defensively but offsets it somehow, either by the help of a good trait, good movepool, or sheer BST.

In terms of fitting to what a concept is supposed to be, this idea is outright the best because it defines no clear typing, base stat range or set movepool/traits, thus not hindering any further discussion, while giving an idea of what should be done.

However, the flaw I see in this idea is that it doesn't fix something we dislike about the current metagame -the reason Stealth Rock removing Pokemon idea finds so much support-, so not many people may be willing to go through with it.
 
Controller: A pokemon that has good defenses that can force the opposing pokemon into certain attacks that they have used already/or could have (similar to encore, except not locked, and doesn't have to be previous move), and have an ability that hurts their opponent everytime they make contact (similar to Rough Skin, Flame Body, or Static). This pokemon should also be able to sweep decently, but nothing compared to a garchomp, gyrados, or other OU sweepers.
 
I'm kind of leaning towards the Ice Resisting Dragon aswell because Rapid Spin already takes care of Stealth Rock in my opinion.
 
My idea also emphasizes metagame research. What is a good typing, and what isn't. Since the stated goal of the CaP Project is to understand the metagame, this could be an effective experiment.

Barring that, I would LOVE to see gravity in play. Could be the most fundamental metagame shift yet. It would also make garchomp cry tears of joy.
 
Kirin: Kirin is a Japanese mythological animal-god that is said to be a sign of extreme good luck to those who see it and is the most powerful creature, even more than dragons. It looks like a japanese version of a unicorn. Maybe we could come up with our own version of the kirin, make it a sweeper/support pokemon that could withstand dragon moves, or at least survive an Outraged Garchomp.
 
I'm in kind of late, but if it matters to poopazing at all anymore Heal Bell Dragonite is one of my faviourite Pokemon on shoddy and on WiFI I use an Impish Salamence and a Wishmence with great sucess. I love them to death not for their rarity but because they fit my team so well <3

If this was to be Dragon at all, judging from the support it would end up being both Defencive and leaning towards the Special attacking stat.
 
For the Ice-resisting Dragon idea, Thick Fat doesnt have to necessarily be used. It could be a dual type Dragon like Steel/Dragon, Fire/Dragon, or Water/Dragon. Maybe just make an improved version of a Kingdra, although I'm quite partial to the Fire/Dragon idea, similar to the dragons we know from mythology.
 
I know what you're talking about Sunday, but those pokemon arn't really ment to be defensive. Sure they fit the team well and they're awesome but they're usually ment to be offensive. A defensive dragon leaning towards the special side would be a great addition to its cousins. The type and ability should be something that would improve its defensive capabilities. Such as Fire/Dragon type or Thick Fat ability.
 
Concept: Special Belly Drummer
Description: This Pokemon (it could possibly be an evo, or a completely new Pokemon) would have a move identical to Belly Drum, only it raises Special Attack instead of Attack. Seems to fit with all the people wanting Specail Intimidate, Special Dragons, more Special walls, etc.

Also expressing support for auto-entry hazard removal (or AT LEAST SR) and bulky/ice resistant dragons.
 
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Concept: "Special Dragon"
Description: A novelty in terms of stats, as it comes to Dragons. It'd have an higher Speed (110-115) and SpAtk (120-130) than the other Dragons. To balance it, it'd have poor defenses and a workable Attack stat, as well as the ability to use Dragon Dance and Outrage in the same set. It'd have a movepool equal to Dragonite's, but without Thunderbolt and Ice Beam for Dark Pulse and Psychic (or Aura Sphere).
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Latios. Seriously, can we all think before we post? There are some good ideas, like the spinner in general concept and the Bulky Ice-resistant dragon, but some people aren't reading the OP, and randomly coming on here and spamming this thread with rediculous ideas, broken ideas, and some combinations. Please, don't think that because this was changed from typing first to idea first that you can release your inner fanboys and go hog-wild with your ideas. I'm not trying to discourage anyone, I'm trying to encourage good ideas. So before you click submit, read through all the previous submissions to get a feel of the ideas given. I would also suggest reading the strategy guide sticky on all the previous CAPs, and read the How we Create a Pokemon sticky too. Then post your ideas. /rant

EDIT: For all the people wanting defensive pokemon, look at the past two. They are VERY defensive, and a pain to take down if you don't have a counter. For all the people wanting balanced, look at the last one. It was supposed to be "balanced", but turned out very defensive. For all the people wanting offensive, be careful of how offensive you want it. Look at Syclant and what it's become. It's all been done before.
 
The non ice weak dragon could be part ice. That would keep it from being invincible because it has three useful weaknesses (and steel).

Concept: Dragonslayer/dragonkith

Description: A pokemon that poses a great threat to dragons but is also very useful on a team using dragons. It would have an ability that grants it resistance to dragon (so that it need not be steel). It would also be be resistant to ice (by ability or typing) so that it could block attacks meant for dragons.

(I started with the idea of a Garchomp counter and tried to make it useful for some other purpose.)
 
The non-ice weak dragon is starting to look restricting already. Didn't the OP said that type wasn't suppose to judge the concept being thrown up?

Also...wouldn't it be a good time to weed out all the "stupid" idea as a way to help the TL?
 
It would be good, but how are we going to do that? Ask people of stupid ideas to delete their posts?
 
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