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CAP 4 CAP 4 - Part 9 (Ability Poll 1)

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Persistant
Frisk

I've essentially wanted this Pokemon to have Persistant since we started this project. Frisk fits perfectly flavor wise.
 
Tangled Feet
Forewarn

Tangled Feet is not overpowering but it's a useful ability and helps give character. Forewarn can be useful without being overpowering either.
 
Hazmat said:
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Gamefreak Decree: ALL POKEMON EVER CREATED MUST FALL UNDER OUR GLORIOUS FRAMEWORK OF MOVES AND ABILITIES. YOU PEASENTS CANNOT EVEN COMPREHEND OUR GRAND DESIGNS.

YES, WE HAVE THOUGHT OF EVERYTHING.

EIGHT LEGGED HAND SPIDER? WE THOUGHT OF THAT TOO, BEFORE ANY OF YOU. DON'T EVEN TRY TO GIVE IT ANY ABILITIES THAT SOMEHOW SPAWNED IN THOSE PUNY BRAINS. WE KNOW WHAT IS BETTER FOR IT.

WE WANT TAILWIND AND HEAL BLOCK TO BE NEAR-USELESS, IT IS FOR THE GREATER GOOD. DON'T YOU DARE BREATHE NEW LIFE INTO THOSE MOVES.
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Wow.

Thanks for the sarcasm. You way you get your opinion across, I mean - seriously. You made an art form out of it. It's mind blowing. I am currently picking up the pieces of my brain all across my floor.

I'm sorry I have an opinion that's different than you. Oh wait a second, I'm not.

It's just my opinion. I supported it with my reasoning behind it. I wasn't yelling at anyone or making an official decree. I was talking and discussing. I wasn't being hostile. And you come along and just act like a jack ass.

Nice.
 
Absolution said:
Wow.

Thanks for the sarcasm. You way you get your opinion across, I mean - seriously. You made an art form out of it. It's mind blowing. I am currently picking up the pieces of my brain all across my floor.

I'm sorry I have an opinion that's different than you. Oh wait a second, I'm not.

It's just my opinion. I supported it with my reasoning behind it. I wasn't yelling at anyone or making an official decree. I was talking and discussing. I wasn't being hostile. And you come along and just act like a jack ass.

Nice.
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I never said that you weren't entitled to your opinion, or that you were somehow wrong because it was different than mine.

Plus, it was just a joke (though I thought it was pretty obvious). Get over it.
 
Absolution said:
This project is Create-A-Pokemon. I personally take that at face value. Let's create a Pokemon. That should be the only variable as far as I'm concerned. Not an attack. Not an ability. Not an item. I feel like we should play with the parts that Gamefreak has in the game and only those parts, and make a competitive, interesting new creature out of them.

Beyond that, by keeping to that, it keeps this as new player friendly as possible. Explaining a new Pokemon is one thing. "He's a Bug/Ice sweeper type." Having to continue that and say "He's a Bug/Ice sweeper type of Pokemon with this awesome new ability that means that he's immune to rock type damage on the switch in" is a whole 'nother thing. There's a lot bigger chance of someone saying "F this, that's dumb, all you guys are dumb" the more stuff we make stuff up.

If this was Create-A-Metagame, then I'd agree with you. I wouldn't like the purpose as much, but I'd agree with you. But we're inserting new Pokemon with the intent of modifying the metagame piece by piece. I think it should just stick with the Pokemon, and let them do the work.

That's my general opinion.
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Absolution I agree with your general point, but you're reasoning is way off. The whole point of the project is to create a new METAGAME. If you create new pokemon and then insert them into a new metagame, it's going to play way different. Thats like saying I have a chocolate cheesecake. I'm going to put in raspberries , but call it a chocolate cheesecake, even though it's a chocolate raspberry cheesecake (food reference #2 in the project and counting). Yes, I don't like created abilities either. Yes I don't like new moves unless they're just renamed to fit better. Yes I don't like making new items. However, sometimes, you're opinion isn't the majority opinion. That's democracy. So yes we can just create pokemon, but for every raspberry (pokemon) you insert in the cake, it becomes a different cake (metagame). Man I should stop typing while hungry.
 
jenigmat429 said:
Persistent
Unaware

I would have picked Poison Point for my second vote, but I honestly thing that unlike Flame Body or Static, Poison Point would just be a hindrance, because as far as statuses go, regular poison is quite bad, and just makes things like Heracross much more dangerous.
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Yeah!
Persistent
Unaware

About the Encore, it may help if your opponent have 1 poke, and u trap for 7-11 turns...You can even force a switch when you encore for 7-11 turns (SR-Ts-Spikes-pursuit abuse, anyone?), so it still isnt decided in my oppinion
Example: You trap his Celebi in SR/Leech Seed for 7-11 turns, then u send your CB Weavile with pursuit and then spam pursuits... he could recover, protects, HP-Fire or anything else if he wasn`t encored, but the encore finished his celebi.
I know the grammar errors, im a noob in english...
 
tennisace0227 said:
That makes no sense. If you change an existing pokemon's spread, it will have nothing to do with a new pokemon's spread. Thats like saying I'm going to put mayo on a spicy chicken sandwich to see how its going to taste on a hamburger. The two are completely unrelated. I'm hungry.
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That one in the PR thread. Still, it doesn't make sense, because you create something new when you add something to it. Why would a metagame be any different. Sorry that this is sooooo off topic.
 
What else would you have it devoted to?

Sweeping? Walling?

Makes sense that the majority of the aspects... if not all of the aspects... are devoted to its main purpose, UTILITY.
 
Persistant- It suits a utility Poke very well, not to mention makes Trick Room and Gravity much more viable.

Frisk- This would help a lot when facing something like Lucario or Salamence.
 
Persistent
Unaware

As Doug said, Persistent emphazises his role as a team supporter, while Unaware pretty much might make him work as a solid stat-up counter.

I must say I'm really surprised with the project. Even if I don't come here that much anymore, I'm kind of lurking over the threads, and this might be the coolest non-official pokémon I've ever seen at this side of the internet. Hell, this thing is so damn cool I'd like to use it even with Slow Start.
 
LonelyNess said:
What else would you have it devoted to?

Sweeping? Walling?

Makes sense that the majority of the aspects... if not all of the aspects... are devoted to its main purpose, UTILITY.
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A small percent could be focused on Sweeping via Special or Physical? I think many utility driven Pokemon have one or two set focusing on sweeping.
 
What I don't really like about Unaware is that the main stat up users all thratn this guy anyways, with the one main exception of Revenankh. Pokes like DDGyara, Tail Glow Syclant, DDTar (w/ EQ), SDChomp, CMCune... I wouldn't want this guy in on them anyways. Especially Gyara, who may be packing Taunt which completely shits on you.
 
LonelyNess said:
What else would you have it devoted to?

Sweeping? Walling?

Makes sense that the majority of the aspects... if not all of the aspects... are devoted to its main purpose, UTILITY.
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I'm just saying, it's really not a bad thing (on the contrary, I think it's a good thing) to at least give this the option of doing something other than pure utility. Of course that's what it's going to be best at; it's a utility Pokémon! But a Pokémon that can do one thing really well and another thing pretty well is a lot more fun than a Pokémon that can only do one thing. Ever. And doing anything else with it would be a terrible idea. That's why Pokémon like Shuckle and Blissey take very little creativity to make.

Majority? Sure. But all? All all? I'm against it. I would love for this thing to have a Klutz set.
 
Considering the fact the original concept was "pure utility" I think we should stick to that as much as possible, and giving this Pokemon something like Persistent and Frisk would aid that cause. That's the main point of CAP 4 and I don't think we should make this some sort of versatile Arceus.
 
Persistant
Poison Point

I think these would be the most sensible, but Tailwind could become broken if it's given to DDL.
Poison Point backs up the spikes in the drawing.
 
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