College Acceptances / Discussion Thread

I used Pokemon in my common-app essay. Just got into Cornell today (rejected from Princeton, waitlisted from Carnegie-Mellon School of Computer Science, got a full ride into Rutgers Pharamacy, got into UMass Amherst, UMaryland, waiting on Stanford and Harvard). I talked about like how I used to be embarrassed by it in school until I turned it around and stuff.

Sat 2350, barely top 5% in my school, have a job, volunteer, tutor, if you want to know my other stats (to see if the essay would've killed or helped me or not or something).
 
I guess my main concern with the college process is finding this passion thing that all these top tier schools are concerned with. I'm going to go ahead and address the elephant in the room right now, since I think we were all thinking it- has ANYBODY used Pokemon to their benefit? I mean I can't really imagine how this would work but it could be something you right about in an essay, or if like you placed in VGC Nationals or Worlds you could write about that experience, or anything like that. It seems like somebody would just read "Pokemon" and stamp it REJECT, but I feel like its something you might be able to put a nice spin on and after all it IS rather unique. Beyond Pokemon, I honestly don't feel too "passionate" about anything so I'm really worried about the college process.

I know one person who did use Pokemon in his application. He'll remain unknown unless he chooses to disclose it himself. Though this said person did say he had a lot of fun in his interviews about Smogon.

Personally I wouldn't write about VGC or Worlds; what would that prove? You're good at pokemon? You like socializing with others? I don't really see much inspiration coming from these events in an academic setting.

Putting the right spin on it is crucial in my opinion; using you as an example Smith, telling them you have a "team rater" badge, wouldn't make a great impression; most either 1) don't know enough about Pokemon to actually know what you're talking about or the impact of your work or 2) think it sounds childish (to an outsider, rating "Pokemon teams" sounds pretty amateur). Although, stuff like The Smog, and C&C work could possibly work to your benefit.

Personally, I wouldn't use it in my college application unless you're chaos, and the others who founded the site, or are actually an administrator, or lead some major project here.
 
I'm only a sophomore in high school, but I'm obviously always trying to do my best in school right now.

So, I have a question: do you guys think it is more important to have a higher GPA, or have a slightly lower GPA with a few AP classes? Personally, I'm thinking that having 1-2 AP classes then having around a 3.7 or so is about the best thing to plan for, but I would like your opinions on this.

I'm sure other things like being swim team captain will be important, etc etc, but when coming just down to grades / classes, what do you think is the best approach?

thanks for any help :)

Take whatever classes you want to, as long as you feel you'll be able to do well in them. Honestly, AP classes can only help you in the long run if they count towards credits in the college of your choice. Beyond that, the school that you're applying to won't really care *that* much if you haven't taken many or any AP classes.

EDIT: To put it in perspective, I'm now a sophomore at UW-Madison. In high school I took 3 AP classes total (English, Psych, and History), got up to Algebra 2 for math, took level 4 French, and took the required classes and Band among other classes. That doesn't look too impressive, especially when other kids from my high school that are here in Madison with me took stuff like AP Calc, AP Physics, AP Chem, and other crazy-hard classes. But hey, I did what I liked and I did it well.

What colleges are looking for is variety. If you do what you want and do it as best as you can, and then are able to write an exemplary essay on it at some point in the future when you apply, you'll probably be accepted into the college you want.

Overall: extracurriculars and experience >>> grades and classes

Not that grades and classes don't count for anything, they do (shooting for a 4.0 GPA is obviously the way to go). And you should try your hardest. But don't overexert yourself, especially not in high school.
 
I've strongly considered putting gaming achievements and the like on apps and personal essays at times, but I'm largely with eraddd on this, unless you've done something of the magnitude he described, I wouldn't.

The most trouble I had with university settling in was actually finding accommodation, fucking ridiculous that they could reject me from an associated living college but accept me to the university itself.
 
Eos, I would only take AP classes that you are interested or familiar in the subject. Taking APs in subjects you are unfamiliar or have no interest can result in hell and low grades. Most often than not, it will do more harm than good.

Honestly SAT and SATIIs are arguably the largest deciding factor. I know a fellow student who did little homework, constantly scolded by some teachers, and focused more on sports, and he got into John Hopkins. He spent all of his hours during his junior year cooked up in Barnes & Noble, studying every day for SATs and SAT IIs. He virtually got perfect scores on his tests.

ClawofBeta, I am pretty sure your impeccable SAT score and GPA helped you get in to many of these schools, giving you some breathing room to fuck around with your essays.
 
Great... My school offers absolutely no extracurricular activities.

If your school doesn't offer any extracurriculars, and you want them to and are interested in doing something, starting a project to get your school to endorse extracurriculars would count ENORMOUSLY towards getting into the college you want.

Seeing you take action for something you want would look fucking fantastic on a college app, and hell even a resume. It shows initiative and drive to get what you want.

Even if you're not the leading force, getting people together to see about getting extracurriculars, or working with a teacher you get along with at your school is still something that you can use towards your advantage when it comes to a college app.
 
I'm a high school senior with a 2310 SAT score and a 101.8 GPA with pretty good extracurriculars and a seven year involvement in music, and today I went 0.5 out of 5 for the five Ivy League schools I applied to. The 0.5 was a waitlist at Cornell.

So right now I'm stuck in a rather awkward spot because I basically only applied to those Ivys, UChicago, and MIT, along with my safety school, Rutgers. I'm pretty much in position number 3 that Eraddd described, since my family and I were pretty much clueless about the college procedure and I've always been raised under a gung-ho "get into the good schools" mindset.

So I ended up not applying to Duke or NYU or Boston or TCNJ and I'm suffering the repercussions now. It's between a waitlist at Cornell, one at UChicago, and a full ride to Rutgers.

I know Rutgers is still a pretty a good school, and that people would kill to have a full ride to it - and personally, I know if I end up having to go there, I'll be happy with my lot. But right now, it's hard not to feel devestated, to feel like I failed somehow.

If I were to give advice to current high school juniors, I'd say exactly what Eraddd said - don't overestimate yourself and make sure you apply in a comfortable range of schools, including several levels of safety. Always try to give yourself options, even if that means working harder on the applications.
I count myself lucky because I learned all of this previously this year (I'm still a junior). I basically was told "yeah, there are hundreds upon thousands of kids just as/more competitive as you for college." I did a college visit at UNC-CH recently where I got confirmation on what everyone is saying about the essay, so I plan to destroy it (in a good way).

Personally, I'm looking at either UNC-CH or NC State for college. I plan to apply pretty much everywhere, but in school tuition in NC is ridiculously cheap, and it has several pretty good schools. To add to that, I plan on getting many higher degrees, so where my undergrad comes from isn't as important. Though part of me still wants that undergrad from an Ivy league... Good luck to all those seniors out there!
 
Not gonna bother quoting all the posts that ask questions like this, but if your school offers a lot of APs, you should take as many as you feel comfortable taking, but the more the merrier. When your guidance counselor or whoever submits their recommendation of you, they also submit a "school profile" that says, among other things, how rigorous your school is (ex: how many APs your school offers). Your grades are important, but colleges also want to see that you're challenging yourself. If your school offers every AP under the sun but you don't take any, that doesn't look great. Conversely, if your school only offers 1 AP class but you take it (and do well), that means that you're trying to take as demanding a schedule possible.

If your school doesn't have extracurricular options, find things that aren't run through your school. For example, if you're a fencer but don't have a school fencing team, go fence individually in clubs. If you show dedication, they will like it.

BTW, if people want to know my high school "stats" then I'd be happy to post them/PM them, but I don't really want to turn this thread into a number circlejerk if at all possible.
 
in my experiences, ap classes are useless for admittance into college. they do help you learn much more though, so if you're interested in the subjects they are enriching. don't take them just to get into college though, that's stupid. i took 10 ap exams freshman-junior year and got a 5 on all of them, didn't really help me get into college.
 
What admissions officers want to see in essays is your personality (along with the basic good grammar and prose). That's what the essays are for like many in this thread have said: there are thousands of John Doe / 4.0 GPA / Captain of the sports team / saves the whales and elderly ladies on the weekends applying to the same schools. What they want most times is personality. I personally didn't use Pokemon because I had much better things to write about, but if you're passionate about it and you can spin it into something (leadership mostly), then more power to you. Just make sure you're writing to your audience, which are adults which most likely haven't played the games in many years, if at all (though im like 99% sure a couple admissions officers at Tufts are gamers in some capacity since many admissions officers are only a year or two out of college).

@Smaug: find some of your own. They don't have to be school related, they just need to be something you do outside of academia. Play in a rec league, volunteer at a senior center, etc. Anything not scholarly that shows you aren't just a bookworm.

Finally, regarding classes you should take:

Tufts uses this line whenever that question is asked:

"We want you to get A's in the best classes offered. Other than that, we want you to get the best grades possible in the classes you're most comfortable with, but we want you to challenge yourself in some way too."

So basically, get as good grades as possible, in the toughest classes you can handle. And yes, great extracurriculars + good grades in somewhat hard classes >>> mediocre grades in hard classes.
 
APs are also amazing once you get accepted to college, since they can translate into course credits or exemption from introductory classes. Of course you need to take the AP exam and score well (4 or 5) to make these courses count.
 
In addition to whatever classes, solid essays, and extracurriculars, I highly recommend joining a National Honors Society chapter to anyone who is able to. Not only does it look great on an application (organized service done regularly is just as good if not better than a varsity sport), but you might also learn something about yourself in service that you can write about in you essay (do not just mention being in NHS to make yourself look good, you have to actually say something true to who you are). Additionally, being an NHS member will qualify you for multiple scholarships and awards.
 
It depends on where you want to go Eos. Im going to tell you some hard truths:

The 'best' colleges expect essays as a preliminary. You won't look good because took APs, you'll get looked at because you took APs. They aren't hard, nothing in school is hard, just take them. They're hard because your teachers can be pretentious snobs about the class being an AP, the subject matter is not anything out of the ordinary in high school education. The only mildy difficult AP tests used to be Music Theory and Biology, they just changed the Biology AP so that it's now a joke like the rest of them. So that just leaves Music Theory which almost no one takes anyway, so who cares?

If you don't care about getting into the Ivy League schools and the schools around that tier, then it doesn't really matter what classes you take, so why bother.

Some more hard truths from a student in the UC system (2 years at Santa Cruz, next year at Berkeley, and summer school at UCLA):

It sucks. The UC system, despite being arguably the best public higher education option, is overpriced and underfunded. Sure, their graduate programs are the best in the world, but other than that it's really overcosted for the education you get as an undergraduate. Unless you're getting a full scholarship, I would avoid the UC system. But I am hardly embracing going to a private school, unless you can get a full scholarship. You should be looking to find a way to pay around $5000 in tuition a year, at a school that you can get out of in 4 years. Which means no state schools, as they are impossible to get out of in 4 years. I would apply to a shit ton of private schools and try to get recruited for swimming and then hope that you wriggle your way into a scholarship. Some schools like Harvard and Princeton have a no loans policy so if you get in they'll pay all your shit, so think about going to those schools. Though tier one schools really suck in terms of elitism, and the fact that I've never been impressed by the actual knowledge formations that emerge from those schools in the areas of Philosophy, Literature, and Economics.

Here are some actual good schools that you should think about going to, these are selected on the basis of me knowing people who go there and having a confidence that they are having a good experience:

1. Evergreen State, Olympia WA- no grades, amazing experience, low cost, beautiful campus, involved accessible faculty. Also Sleater-Kinney... Look it up

2. Reed College, Oregon- though they do have grades, they are de-emphasized and you will actually get constructive criticism from your professors. Like Evergreen, you will be able to have real relationships with faculty. Also beautiful campus and surrounding area. The cost is prohibitive as with all private schools.

3. Stanford- Yeah it's tier one, expensive, and elitist, and as far as I know it does not have a no-loans policy, so everything about that sucks. On the other hand, if you know people who go there, you hear their stories about going on field trips to Spain >_> Maybe I've just heard one too many of these stories, and have been illusioned by their fantastic gym, and now when ever I visit Stanford (which is all the time because they have a really fantastic piano program and the free concerts are amazing) I feel like Stanford is what college should be like.

4. Haverford/ other small liberal arts colleges (Claremont, Pomona, and Scripps specifically)- Yeah at Haverford you have all the fun elitism of any college in Pennsylvania, but you also have an honor code, which for a long time had me thinking very highly of it. My best friend loves it there, and when I have visited her there I thought it was lovely. But when I applied there, they wait-listed me
for no apparent reason (accepted at Princeton and Berkeley and rejected by Haverford? >_>). Look up there honor code, and really think hard about what you're looking for in your college experience, honor code is one of those things that can really mean different things for different people. Maybe it will affect you very positively.
 
I'm going to Longwood University (that's what she said) in the fall. I'm willing to bet nobody has ever heard of it considering that I only know like 4 active Smogonites from Virginia and it's a small school to begin with. But it's a nice campus and my sister is already there so it will be easier on my family and on me because I don't like change. Also it's like 2/3 female and 1/5 minority, I'm not racist but I do love white girls. I really want to find a friend who's also enrolling there to room with because I hate the idea of rooming with some random-ass person who you found based on almost worthless compatability test questions like "Do you study a lot? Do you go to bed early?" Overall I'm happy though, it's not a bad school because it isn't well known and it fits the degree that I want to get very well so it's a logical choice for a number of reasons :toast:

Oh I forgot one thing, I'm nervous as shit for my German placement test aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh
 
Don't stress about which college you'll go to.

In high school, I had a 3.7 GPA, 4s on AP tests for Calc AB, Physics B, and Environmental Science, high SAT and SATII scores, 7 years or track and cross country, 7 years of band, Eagle Scout, and some other stuff.
I applied to six public schools in California, because California has the best weather in the world and there's no way I could afford any private school. So I applied to schools in the Cal State University system and the UC system. I was bummed when I didn't get in where I wanted to go, but oh well.
I was applying for Mechanical Engineering, which was apparently my mistake, but such is life. Friends with much worse GPAs and test scores than I had got into my choice schools by applying as Undeclared or in random majors like International Agricultural Development. One guy applied to UCLA as an African Studies major and changed majors as soon as he got accepted. MAJOR MATTERS!

Anyway, I'm a freshman at UC Merced now. It's the newest school in the University of California system, being 6 years old. There are about 5000 students, so not too big or small. We use the same curriculum as UC Berkeley, LA, Davis, and San Diego. However, UC Merced has tiny class sizes (my math class is nine people; the same class at Berkeley would have around 60 or 70), awesome teacher/student ratios, and gives scholarships for GPA as incentives to draw more students in. I'm receiving about $14,600 for having a good GPA, which pays for all of tuition and part of my housing costs.
EDIT: Myzozoa brought up how the UC system is pretty crappy right now; it's true, although UCM isn't impacted as much as the others because the administration doesn't want to kill the school yet. Berkeley and LA seem like such a scam right now though...

Apart from the school aspect of it, it's an awesome time. The cool thing about college is that everyone is there to learn/have fun. Also girls. So because of this, it doesn't matter where you go to college. People have similar interests, and there are tons of people who all want to make new friends. Just take tours of the places you get accepted and don't worry about where you didn't make it. It's not worth worrying about.

TLDR:
Think about the major you're applying for.
You'll have a good time no matter where you end up as long as you're open minded and not a whiny little bitch.
 
I didn't ask for letters or write essays because I am a terrible person (how exactly am I suppose to spin Stalinism to a Catholic University).

Infact I only applied to colleges that don't require anything. I am a mediocre man that just wants to make this as painless as possible.

At this point I am pretty much going to Merrywood with an oddly good scholarship deal for a private college (somehow). A little over $5000 a semester for the full package, nothing amazing, but its pretty good I think for someone who put no effort into this (well I researched colleges that required nothing :) ). Now all I have to do is accept…

I currently have AP calc and Euro, Calculus got mad hard for like no reason in the last few months, but I still should be able to get a 3. With Euro I am pretty sure I can get a 4, the essays are what is going to screw me over.
 
Actually Myzozoa, Harvard does have a loan policy (a friend of mine told me what he pays and he gets 2k in loans) but it's very little.

Also, based on your post, I find it very disturbing that I'm paying the same amount of tuition as a student who is hugely subsidized by the university and by the government. How the government allows schools to charge 50k a year I will never know.
 
Any canadians (outside of Eradddd) with their personal experiences? I know that canadian universities tend to be a lot easier to get into unless you're going into a very specialized program.

I'll be attending the University of Toronto and their Engineering Science program with a specialization in Aerospace Engineering this upcoming fall, got my acceptance there early February!

I was lazy and just attended the University of Alberta because I knew I'd get in and it required the least effort. I send in my application like 1 week before the deadline too.

Chances are I could have gone to a better University (UBC, somewhere in Ontario, McGill, maybe somewhere american if I wanted to waste 100k), but it'd would just be a lot more inconvenient, a hell of a lot more expensive, for a marginally better school.

Eraddd what exactly did you end up doing? I remember you went to SFU for a year, hated it, transferred somewhere(?), but I forget what happened after then. If I'm correct that you transferred, how easy was it and where did you go?
 
Err Myzozoa, your advice are somewhat questionable...

Unless you're an amazing student, it would be hard to find colleges that you only need to pay $5k / year. It may be a rather unrealistic advice to some. There are certain groups of colleges that provides an exorbitant amount of scholarships and financial aids, so definitely research for these type of schools if money is a major concern. Basically look for schools that provides Need-Based financial aid.

I don't know why you say it's impossible to graduate in 4 years from state schools (are you referring solely to California schools?), cuz that's simply not true to my knowledge. In fact people should apply to public state institutions, since state residents have an easier chance of getting accepted with much lower tuition prices than out-of-state residents.

Why would you recommend colleges that have no grades? I think attending such schools would only be hurting yourself if you're planning on entering in grad or professional schools that scrutinize your coursework, grades, GPA, etc.
 
Oglemi said:
Take whatever classes you want to, as long as you feel you'll be able to do well in them. Honestly, AP classes can only help you in the long run if they count towards credits in the college of your choice. Beyond that, the school that you're applying to won't really care *that* much if you haven't taken many or any AP classes.

I'm going to have to disagree there, Oglemi. When I participated in college-prep courses last summer, the admissions officers had consistently said that, above GPA and (far above) ACT/SAT, they look at community/extracurricular involvement and the rigor of coursework in your senior year. If you're getting a 4.0 taking required courses and art/music classes, the person taking three AP's and getting a 3.7 is more successful in their eyes.
That is not to say grades aren't important; only take any AP classes that you can expect to receive a B or higher in. Colleges are also looking for those who know their limitations.


Oglemi said:
I'm now a sophomore at UW-Madison

It seems I may be seeing you this fall, then? (Not really, Madison's campus is a tad big...)
 
Here is my #1 suggestion: don't get student loans unless you ABSOLUTELY NEED THEM.

Student loans are a hell of a pain to pay off. I work in finance for an automotive group, and you won't believe how many applicants we get who have a ton of student loans and have poor credit. We end up declining them when they try to get a vehicle financed.

This applies everywhere, including a home mortgage. So I would seriously suggest that you take initiative to look up scholarships and grants. Find a job or two or three. Save up money as much as you can. Tuition isn't cheap nowadays and student loans aren't all that great of a way to pay for it.

Food for thought.
 
I was lazy and just attended the University of Alberta because I knew I'd get in and it required the least effort. I send in my application like 1 week before the deadline too.

Chances are I could have gone to a better University (UBC, somewhere in Ontario, McGill, maybe somewhere american if I wanted to waste 100k), but it'd would just be a lot more inconvenient, a hell of a lot more expensive, for a marginally better school.

Eraddd what exactly did you end up doing? I remember you went to SFU for a year, hated it, transferred somewhere(?), but I forget what happened after then. If I'm correct that you transferred, how easy was it and where did you go?

Transferred to UBC from SFU. Very easy, just sent in my IB scores, and my transcript and they replied within a month, accepting me, and giving me some money too. It was a bit harder signing up for courses, since I was taking my summer courses in SFU, and UBC didn't receive my summer courses until they had ended, but I still got into all the courses I wanted.
 
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