Complaints about D/P

I feel like there could have been more pokemon fixes this generation. Pinsir and Scyther were always somewhat similar in my eyes, as well as magmar and electabuzz, they were all similar in nature, but pinsir was left in the dust.

Qwillfish was left to die, tropius I felt needed more. Farfetch'd... I mean, they could do alot with that.

Also, many type combinations were left out. It could be worse though.
 
My number one complaint: "saving a lot of data, please wait". 20 seconds to save a game is the longest I can remember ever seeing. Its even more annoying when you saved five minutes beforehand.

Other complaint(s): No PC Item storage is dumb, some Pokemon that didnt need evos (Rhydon) got them, while some Pokemon that really needed one (Farfetch'd) didnt get one, and the longer battles all get on my nerves.
 
Yeah, Skarmory evo ftw. Something like 80/160 defences

Another thing that annoys me is how freakin hard it is to get the Mind Plate (not that it'll be useful, just to complete my plate collection). You have to catch like all 28 types of unown for that miner guy to dig until the final room which has the Mind Plate. I know there's the underground, but you have to be really lucky.
 
My main complaint is that there aren't very many new Pokemon.
The Pokemon they have designed for the 4th Generation range from very good designs to very poor designs.

I thought that Toxicroak and Croagunk were designed well, however I think that Buneary/Lopunny were designed poorly.
QFT!!! Seriously, what were they thinking?

I also have to agree that a lot of pokemon got left in the dust. Some guys I think needed evos include banette, tropius, chimecho, glalie (froslass wasnt needed, really) farfecthed, pinser, parasect, mawile, crawdaunt, sharpedo, whiscash, cacturne, lumineon, carnivine.

So many cool Hoenn/Kanto guys got pwnt this generation. All those useless Johto suckwads got evos, why not some actual good pokemon?

AND WHY did they waste slots in the Sinnoh Dex with stuff like skuntank, happiny, chingling, lopunny, etc?
 
My annoyances:

- The game felt like it was just a grind to raise pokemon. None of the battles were really challenging. I'd like for future games to have a "hard mode" or something to add more challenge.

- You got most the good pokemon after you beat the elite four, which kinda sucked

- Also random battles need to go... that's really outdated and pretty annoying.
 
I'd rather have D/P be able to trade with 3rd gen than bringing the Pokemon into Pal Park and actually going to look for them, again.

Also, why do you have to see ALL of the Pokemon in the Sinnoh Dex to get the National Dex? My SRing luck for Uxie has been terrible, so I'd have to settle for possibly bad Uxie/Mesprit/Azelf to finish the Sinnoh Dex quickly. T_T (Note to self: hatch the Riolu egg!)
 
The Pokemon entrance animations are terrible. They're like watching a badly tweened Flash movie. I want the good animations from GSC on these shiny new sprites.
 
I hate how you can't turn the animations off, some take a huge amount of time (Electrike comes to mind)

The leftovers animations, etc are really slow too, but admittedly not as bad as in ADV.
 
I agree with most the things that have been said so far, except for the ones that are bitching, like about Poketch.
Who cares if you can't scroll backwards, at least now we have an instant stepcounter/daycare checker/counting app for evs/pokeradar chain checker/and if you aren't using any of these, a clock too.
If you are going to complain about something, don't complain about something they improved

But the speed of the game is a worry, as well as surfing, and having to using repels everywhere through out the game, lol it was almost like how your pokemon evolve so did the repel quality, about half way through the game you get upped to super repels, and closer to the end you get max repels, wooh. lame

But to be honest, I can live with bad speed, with having to buy more repels than pokeballs, with getting lvl 1 eggs that are immediately trained to lvl 5 anyway, I can live with all that. But what really ruined the game is something that nobody else has mentioned yet, the fact that every patch of grass has THE EXACT SAME POKEMON. give or take.

What you couldn't find in nearly every patch was either a legendary, or a pokeradar pokemon, or a spiritomb. This is what made the game suck in my opinion
 
People have to realize that the generations go in a cycle.
1st gen : Introduced a large variety of Pokemon. (151)
2nd gen : Added pre-evos and evos to the previous gen. (100)
3rd gen : Introduced a large variety of Pokemon. (135)
4th gen : Added pre-evos and evos to the previous gens. (107)

So the 5th gen is probably going to introduce another large batch of Pokemon, and maybe a few pre-evos and evos.
 
My number one complain is that before finishing the e4 and getting the national dex you can't get any of the nice pokemon yet. I also don't like how all the evo's can only be gotten after finishing the game.(Tangrowth, Electivire, etc.).
 
technically, if you see or receive (through traing?) all 149 Sinnoh Dex pokemon, you can get the national dex before the Elite Four, but Cresselia, Heatran, Giratina, etc won't be available...
 
technically, if you see or receive (through traing?) all 149 Sinnoh Dex pokemon, you can get the national dex before the Elite Four, but Cresselia, Heatran, Giratina, etc won't be available...
but prof oak only appears when you finish the E4 iirc so you still can't get the national dex
 
A lot of things take FOREVER. The biggest thing that bothers me is the slow battling. Beating the elite for takes like 15-20 minutes at least.
 
Another annoyance: Regigigas sucks ass. Why couldn't he just kept Clear Body like the other Regis? He'd be uber but who cares, he wouldn't be any better than Mewtwo statistically. Did they give him a sucky ability? No. So what do they have against Regigigas?. a 670 base pokemon in UU is just funny.
 

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My main complaint is that there aren't very many new Pokemon.
The Pokemon they have designed for the 4th Generation range from very good designs to very poor designs.

I thought that Toxicroak and Croagunk were designed well, however I think that Buneary/Lopunny were designed poorly.
We don't need that many more pokemon. We have almost 500.

My gripes with it were minor; I liked that most TMs were re-obtainable, but not having to sit in the Casino for 2 hours just to give my Bliss Ice Beam. Also, I wish there were more "cool" moves like Drain Punch and Charge Beam.
 
Another annoyance: Regigigas sucks ass. Why couldn't he just kept Clear Body like the other Regis? He'd be uber but who cares, he wouldn't be any better than Mewtwo statistically. Did they give him a sucky ability? No. So what do they have against Regigigas?. a 670 base pokemon in UU is just funny.
Exacley. I saw Regigigas before the game came out and thought he was the greatest pokemon ever (me and my Neverhood fetish), then saw his ability and cried. Although once you think about it, with slow start his stats are 110/80/110/80/110/50, which is some prime wall material (well... its workable), I still use him however, for parafusionflinchhax (I just love saying that word :D, rolls right off the tongue), then when its 5 turns (when the opponent can only attack 26.6% of the time, it happens), I just go and Stomp around like its nobody's buisness.

Anyway, even if he didn't have Slow start, he wouldn't be broken, I agree with him needing Clear Body, then he'd be prime uber material.

Hmm... a little off topic.

My beefs with the game (although a lot of people have said it already)

1. %&$# BIDOOF! Jesus... I thought Poochyena was bad in R/S/E... this thing (and its evo) are just freaking everywhere. I mean ... ARG!

2. Touch screen, while awesome, was implemented poorly, the whole menu and PC boxes should of been touch screen, the battle touchscreen though was most excellent, exacley how it should of been in the overworld with the menus.

3. Useless buttons. Why the hell even have a start and select button? At least they could of given us more registration buttons for items.

4. Your height and weight in the pokedex. Would it be so hard for them to implement it so your not a midget? Why cant we input our own height and weight? Lame

5. Limited Union room sprites. Why cant we have access to every NPC trainer sprite of our gender (barring gym leaders, elite4, ect)? Lame

6. ZOMG SURFING SPEED!

7. Bike issues. Why even have the slow gear on the bike? You may as well run, and the fact that you have to get off at the checkpoints, I was glad they got rid of that in R/S/E, why did they bring them back?!

8.Pokemons abilities changing during Pal packing = retarded. So much for my awesome scizor who now has Technician -.-', what a waste.

9. The amount of baby pokemon. Why the hell? Whey do nothing, all they do is make me want to projectile vomit all over GF for creating such ass pokemon. Waste.

10. Way to offensively orientated. Now I cant use my Umbrion from G/S/C that made the opponent hit themselfs in confusion to death (ahh... the memories). We need way more rapid spinners (or another move that did the same thing, and make it a HM). At least they're making Whirlwind more accessible.

11. Get rid of stealth rock. Spikes I can live with, but Stealth rock is a colossial pain in the ass, and nerfed so many pokemon it isn't funny. Poor Charizard and Moltres, mainly flying/fire/ice/bug pokemon in general.

12. Infernape. Probably just me, but I hate this pokemon with a burning passion that burns like a burning sun, with smaller suns orbiting it, which burn.

13. Local battles cannot have your leveled modified to 100 = lame. How many times have I not been able to battle people because our pokemon were too differently leveled is a major pain.

14. No online underground. Man, that would of owned so hard, but alas, we have been denied. Same with random battles, which is one of the reasons why I'd consider buying PBR

15. That last island is ass. Seriously, Emerald's battle frontier was the most awesome fun I've had in a pokemon game, expecially (I think it was the battle factory) where you could use a random team of pokemon. Less options in sequels is never, ever good.

16. The Safari zone is ass. There is rarely RARE pokemon there, nor is there pokemon you would want to catch. Just plain sucked.

17. Needed to catch Palkia/Dialga and the pixie trio before you got the national dex is a pain, I just caught them ASAP, oh well

18. E4 in general. I beat them and my team was all level 46-48 -.-'. with Roserade I swept the ground guy with OHKO's, waste. Garchomp was level 66 and could do nothing to my Bronzong level 48...

19. Opponents hidden power. Just a nitpick, but was it just me or did they all have HP fighting?

20. My post. Look at this wall of text. what a waste of time. I fail. I'll go back to trying to chain starly, only to find a bidoof looking at me like a cow looks at an oncoming train.
 
Three letters: GTS.

EDIT: Now that I have the time to rant.

Global 'mon trading. How could that be done wrong? Well, GameFreak figured that out.

1) Horrible interface. If you ask for a 'mon on the GTS, you get 7 of the 100's listed, and you can't see any more than that.

2) No details. You can see Mon, Level, Gender, Held Item, and thats it. No natures, movesets, stats, or anything else.

3) No item trading section. 'nuff said.

4) You can only search for the 'mons in your 'dex, but some 60% of the 'mons in the 'dex just can't be seen without Battle Tower.

5) Cloning glitch. I think Cloning is pretty lame myself. I don't care enough to flame people or anything, but still. Lame.

6) You can only post a 'mon in exchange for one other 'mon, and again can't specify details. What if people have a laundry list of wants? Well, too bad. Post a 'mon and hope that the guy that wants your 'mon has exactly the 'mon you want but probably doesn't and theres no guarantee that some jerkhole won't come by and drop a hacked PoS on you, either.
 
No quick cloning glitch. =/ We finally get a way to trade around, and we can't clone the Pokes we bred in DP... sure, there's the "GTS glitch", but that takes an enormous amount of time compared to the Emerald one, and there's a risk of losing the Pokemon.

The sand slopes on the "breeding strip". You're watching a movie while breeding your Pokemon, and moving the D pad up and down. At the end of Pirates of the Carribean 2, you're already mad, then you look down to see that you've been stuck on the freaking sand bar for the whole movie.
 
18. E4 in general. I beat them and my team was all level 46-48 -.-'. with Roserade I swept the ground guy with OHKO's, waste. Garchomp was level 66 and could do nothing to my Bronzong level 48...
So true! My E4 team was also 46-48 (to start with); here's what I had:

Roserade, with Magical Leaf/Stun Spore/Leech Seed/Cut
Golem, with Earthquake/Rollout/Rock Smash/Explosion
Luxray, with Spark/Bite/Crunch/Tackle
Staraptor, with Fly/Aerial Ace/Close Combat/Quick Attack
Gyarados, with Waterfall/Ice Fang/Strength/Dragon Dance
Empoleon, with Surf/Brine/Metal Claw/Rock Climb

Yeah...

Also, it's amazing what you can do with several Hyper Potions. Thanks to that, my L49 Empoleon was able to wall Cynthia's Milotic and METAL CLAW it to death; no Leftovers on my end, Aqua Ring on her end. Yeah. How in the world does a poorly EV-trained team 10-15 levels lower than the E4 stand any chance of winning? Should that really be possible?

Eh, it seems like all of the Gym Leaders/E4 have gotten worse since RBY... or is that just me?
 
Some annoyances:

1) Zubat: this thing has been in caves since rby and it is as annoying as hell!
2) Slowness: The game is soooo slow...I wish I could find my sapphire so I could breed there.
3) Effect on the OU metagame: There have been some changes, like the return of gyarados. Garchomp,Azelf, and some others have bought about changes but otherwise most pokemon used are from older generations
 

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Yeah, i'm going to say that this is the worse in game gen ever, i was FREAKIN hyped about dp coming out, always looking for news on it and getting so excited over the new additions but i ended up being very disappointed at the lagging of time, it could of been a great game if they had fixed the speed issue. And there is too many wild pokemon
 
It's actually a really good game, and I enjoy it alot, but it could have been so much better. I hope someone from GF is reading this thread.

-The game is unnecessarily and agonizingly slow.

-You have to confirm everything 17 times. Too much button mashing.

-Having to mash the touch screen just to get through to the 3 poketch apps that are actually worthwhile.

-The touch screen really has no purpose and is very poorly done. I never use it at all, save for the poketch counter for EVs.

-Need to see full stats of pokemon on the GTS, including what kind of ball it's in and where it was obtained, and you need to see ALL of the available pokemon, not just 3, 5, or 7. Search needs to be much more detailed as well.

-No random wi-fi battles. It's too much of a hassle to battle someone.

-Cheating NPC trainers. If you want to balance the game, just code the AI better.

-Extremely inefficient HM system that should have been redone with the GSC games.

-No item storage.

-The RBYGSC cries don't fit anymore. Digital puke doesn't match well with Kricketune and the like.

-Animations that last way too long. Why do I have to see Froslass move her arm back and forth TEN times? Why does Electrike not move at all for a good 8 seconds?

-Random battles are both outdated and annoying. Cut a path through the grass already so we can decide whether we want to be annoyed or not.

-Too many whys that shouldn't exist. Why can't I rename traded pokemon? Why can't I reuse TMs? Why can't I rebattle Gym Leaders? Why are pokemon banned from the offline tower? This could go on forever.

-And personally, i'm tired of the Probopasses and Lickilickys. The only people who would enjoy designs like these are too young to know what a video game is.
 

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It's actually a really good game, and I enjoy it alot, but it could have been so much better. I hope someone from GF is reading this thread.
wow, you look like you had a blast playing this. if it was so enjoyable what about this game was better than or as fun as the previous gens?
 

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