Thunder Wave does not hit Ground-types.
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Comprehensive list of pre-existing move/ability/mechanic changes?
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Someone with the game on Smogon tested it, and it does not hit ground types. It was just some dumb rumor.
I saw this from Veekun: http://sync.in/black-and-white-changes
If all of these are true...
If all of these are true...
Not really sure what to think; someone who tested Hail reported that there was no change. If these are real, they are some amazing buffs. Magic Coat would be an incredible lead move.
WTF? That is gonna make Stallrein even more of a monster. He is just gonna stall you out if you more can't even hit him with Fighting Moves. Throw everything else into HP and SDef. Every weather got buffed and now they are all going to just compete with one another. Ouch.
I think the Hail part should be taken with a grain of salt until it's tested more... stellar said he tested it and didn't see any defense/power boosts... Magic Coat looks like it completely destroys every lead strategy though, reflecting Taunt, every entry hazard, every status condition, and outspeeding everything.
Regice is much, much scarier now that it has Ice Body. 80/100/200 defenses, and in Hail he gets 1.5x Defense? Well-nigh unbreakable. Also has slightly better SpA and access to BoltBeam, so he can't be set up on.
Wow, Magic Coat is going to screw up suicide leads even more than we thought Aiming Mark would (BTW, did anyone test this yet?). Is that effect atleast confirmed because I think someone should look into what useful Pokemon get it.
Edit: Here's a list of all the Pokemon that can get Magic Coat. The ones that are bolded are ones that I think could make good leads.
Edit: Here's a list of all the Pokemon that can get Magic Coat. The ones that are bolded are ones that I think could make good leads.
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Level Up:
Porygon2
[B]Porygon-Z[/B]
Grumpig
Lopunny
Breeding:
Girafarig
Dunsparce
Kecleon
[B]Absol[/B]
[B]Mushurna[/B]
4th Gen only:
[B]Abomasnow[/B]
[B]Alakazam[/B]
[B]Ambipom[/B]
[B]Arceus[/B]
[B]Azelf[/B]
Banette
Blaziken
Cacturne
Chatot
Clefable
[B]Cresselia[/B]
[B]Gengar[/B]
Giratina
[B]Giratina-O[/B]
Golduck
Hariyama
Hitmonchan
Hitmonlee
[B]Hitmontop[/B]
Houndoom
Hypno
[B]Infernape[/B]
Jynx
Latias
[B]Lucario[/B]
Machamp
Medicham
Mesprit
[B]Mew[/B]
[B]Mewtwo[/B]
Mr. Mime
Ninetails (If only it could use this with Drought. T-T)
Primeape
Spinda
Stantler
Sudowoodo
Tauros
Toxicroak
Uxie
WigglytuffSo far we've had rumors of Aiming Mark, Defog, and this screwing up entry hazards. Out of all three, I think this would be the best for stall; the other two were basically unstoppable ways of removing layers, while this only really shuts down suicide leads, and stall will still be able to lay stuff on switches.
http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/magic_coat
The only new Magic Coat user is Musharna, I think.
http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/magic_coat
The only new Magic Coat user is Musharna, I think.
Yeah. But at least Pachirisu now has an ability that can possibly to something in battle lol. Although PickUp was always superior to Run Away anyway. edit: Oh wait, Pachirisu can get Volt Absorb now.
Sweep Slap > Doubleslap
That is a bug on Shoddy, from my knowledge, it does not work in game.
Also, the Hail thing and the Thunder Wave thing are confirmed to be nothing more than rumours.
Not sure if this was cleared up elsewhere, but after checking it out myself I can say with certainty that it is not true. T-Wave doesn't affect anything immune to electricity in any form.
This directly conflicts with this post:
So Seriin, would you mind telling us how you tested it (what Pokemon were involved, etc.)? The Shimama line only has Lightningrod and Motor Drive, so there is a possibility that Motor Drive and Volt Absorb retain their immunity against Thunder Wave from Gen 4 and Lightningrod is still susceptible to it, but we need more info.
My Shimama-evo used thunderwave on another Shimama-evo, and it didn't connect, instead I got the ability pop-up and then saw the stat boost.
If someone saw the contrary, then it could vary depending on the ability. I'll go try it until I see both abilities pop up, and then I'll edit with the results.
EDIT: Got the boost for both Lightningrod and Motor Drive. Zebra v Zebra, mine used Thunderwave: Ability Activated: Lightningrod, Sp.A increased. Used T-wave a second a third time to confirm, then fled the battle. Next battle, same set up, only this time the opponent has Motor Drive. T-Wave increased his speed each time I used it.
I don't have a pokemon to test Volt Absorb with however.
If someone saw the contrary, then it could vary depending on the ability. I'll go try it until I see both abilities pop up, and then I'll edit with the results.
EDIT: Got the boost for both Lightningrod and Motor Drive. Zebra v Zebra, mine used Thunderwave: Ability Activated: Lightningrod, Sp.A increased. Used T-wave a second a third time to confirm, then fled the battle. Next battle, same set up, only this time the opponent has Motor Drive. T-Wave increased his speed each time I used it.
I don't have a pokemon to test Volt Absorb with however.
I can confirm that it doesnt work on Lightingrod, I took video of it but dont know if I can post a link here I only lurk here on smogon.
I did it twice to a lightingrod zebra and both times it boosted its S atk and didnt paralyze it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQIK0u87RBo
UPDATE HD VERSION:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8BYTbABT-I
here you go I posted it on your thread on the other site too.
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