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[theotherguytm]

From the uncreative department:
Toxapex @ Shed Shell
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Recover
- Haze
- Toxic Spikes/Toxic
+2 0 Atk Revenankh Shadow Claw vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Toxapex on a critical hit: 127-150 (41.9 - 49.5%) -- 85.9% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
+1 0 Atk Revenankh Shadow Claw vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Toxapex on a critical hit: 94-112 (31 - 36.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
0 Atk Revenankh Shadow Claw vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Toxapex on a critical hit: 64-76 (21.1 - 25%) -- 96.4% chance to 4HKO after Stealth Rock
You have to account for Shadow Claw's 25% crit, but a solid counter nonetheless. Even assuming Pex comes in on a second Bulk Up or a Shadow Claw after a Bulk Up, Pex Hazes it, walls it forever even with crits, sets up Toxic Spikes while fishing for burns, or straight-up Toxics it.

 

[SunMYSER]

Krilowatt @ Life Orb
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Volt Switch
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Earth Power

scald doesnt deal all that much to Krilo, and it can force pex out quite easily

 

[Blazer50030]

Caribolt @ Choice Scarf
Adamant Nature
Ability: Galvanize
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 SpD
- Double-Edge
- Power Whip
- Horn Leech
- Brick Break

252 SpA Life Orb Krilowatt Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Caribolt: 226-268 (73.1 - 86.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Caribolt Power Whip vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Krilowatt: 486-572 (109.7 - 129.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

The shrimp just went in to this deer tummy.

 

[snake]

Uh oh, did you forget Knock Off on your Caribolt?

Celebi @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Nasty Plot
- Psychic
- Earth Power
- Aura Sphere

+2 252 SpA Celebi Psychic vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Caribolt: 295-348 (95.4 - 112.6%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Galvanize Caribolt Double-Edge vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Celebi: 111-132 (32.5 - 38.7%) -- 4.5% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

 

[Blazer50030]

Cinderace @ Life Orb
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Pyro Ball
- Iron Head
- High Jump Kick
- Zen Headbutt

Sorry Celebi. You have been countered. You still my favorite Mon in the first two gens.

 

[CharSiuEmboar]

Dragapult @ Choice Specs
Timid Nature
Ability: Infiltrator
EVs: 252 Spe / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
- Draco Meteor
- Shadow Ball
- Fire Blast
- Thunderbolt

252 Atk Cinderace Pyro Ball vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Dragapult: 114-135 (35.9 - 42.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252 SpA Choice Specs Dragapult Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Cinderace: 360-424 (119.6 - 140.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Dragapult Shadow Ball vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Cinderace: 205-243 (68.1 - 80.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Dragapult Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Cinderace: 155-183 (51.4 - 60.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Dragapult Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Cinderace: 94-111 (31.2 - 36.8%) -- 79.1% chance to 3HKO

Even if locked into Fire Blast, it is reliant on a free switch and Fire Blast missing at least once to get the KO.

 

[theotherguytm]

Automatically gets countered by not having U-turn.
But to keep the thread moving:
Mollux @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Dry Skin
EVs: 248 HP / 8 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Lava Plume
- Sludge Bomb
- Stealth Rock/Rapid Spin/Toxic Spikes
- Recover
Sorry if this isn't the most up-to-date Mollux, I'm not too familiar with the meta.
252 SpA Choice Specs Dragapult Draco Meteor over 2 turns vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Mollux: 279-330 (70.9 - 83.9%) -- not a KO
252 SpA Choice Specs Dragapult Shadow Ball vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Mollux: 114-135 (29 - 34.3%) -- 3.3% chance to 3HKO
Stalls with Recover and does nasty things. Let's see what beats this not called Dugtrio XD.

 

[CharSiuEmboar]

You need to choose one move in your set I think :)

 

[SunMYSER]

Pajantom @ Leftovers
Ability: Comatose
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Spirit Shackle
- Earthquake
- Outrage
- Brave Bird

4 SpA Mollux Sludge Bomb vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Pajantom: 56-66 (18 - 21.2%) -- possible 7HKO after Leftovers recovery

252 Atk Pajantom Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mollux: 520-612 (131.9 - 155.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 Atk Pajantom Spirit Shackle vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mollux: 156-184 (39.5 - 46.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Black Sludge recovery

Paja is also immune to statuses

 

[snake]

Heal Block not being in the game means Choice Band Pajantom is the best set now because:

Corviknight @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Brave Bird
- Defog
- Roost
- Body Press

252 Atk Pajantom Spirit Shackle vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Corviknight: 127-151 (31.7 - 37.7%) -- 0.1% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

Roost will eventually let Corviknight win with Brave Bird chip.

 

[Blazer50030]

Terrakion @ Choice Band
Jolly Nature
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 SpD
- Close Combat
- Rock Slide
- Megahorn
- Poison Jab

252 Atk Terrakion Max Knuckle vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Corviknight: 148-175 (37 - 43.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

+1 252 Atk Terrakion Max Rockfall vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Corviknight: 303-357 (75.7 - 89.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Leftovers recovery*

*Corviknight is at 63% for calc

 

[snake]

Terrakion @ Choice Band
Jolly Nature
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 SpD
- Close Combat
- Rock Slide
- Megahorn
- Poison Jab

252 Atk Terrakion Max Knuckle vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Corviknight: 148-175 (37 - 43.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

+1 252 Atk Terrakion Max Rockfall vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Corviknight: 303-357 (75.7 - 89.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Leftovers recovery*

*Corviknight is at 63% for calc

why are you using dynamax, it’s banned :|

 

[かたわれ時]

Sorry if this isn’t viable, I’m not too familiar with the CAP metagame and it’s been ages since I posted here.


Zeraora @ Life Orb
Ability: Volt Absorb
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Plasma Fists
- Close Combat
- Grass Knot
- Knock Off (replace with Bulk Up if Zeraora doesn’t get access to Knock this gen)

252 Atk Life Orb Zeraora Plasma Fists vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Corviknight: 367-432 (91.7 - 108%) -- 50% chance to OHKO after Leftovers recovery

0 Atk Corviknight Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Zeraora: 72-86 (22.7 - 27.1%) -- 47.7% chance to 4HKO

4 Def Corviknight Body Press vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Zeraora: 77-91 (24.2 - 28.7%) -- 98.8% chance to 4HKO

Corviknight can’t OHKO and Zeraora can KO. Even if it doesn’t, Roosting won’t help as Corv will still die anyway.

 

[Blazer50030]

why are you using dynamax, it’s banned :|

The first post says it is legal.

 

[snake]

The first post says it is legal.

I've updated the rules to reflect how Dynamaxing has been banned in CAP for a few months now.

The next post should counter the Zeraora set.

 

[theotherguytm]

You need to choose one move in your set I think :)

None of the moves I slashed affect its checks and counters. Unless mass Rapid Spinning allows it to do something it shouldn't do.
Cyclohm @ Leftovers
Bold Nature
Ability: Static
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 Spe
- Discharge
- Flamethrower
- Ice Beam
- Slack Off

Calcs

252 Atk Life Orb Zeraora Plasma Fists vs. 252 HP / 240+ Def Cyclohm: 31-36 (7.3 - 8.5%) -- possibly the worst move ever
252 Atk Life Orb Zeraora Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 240+ Def Cyclohm: 100-118 (23.8 - 28%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
0 SpA Life Orb Zeraora Grass Knot (80 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Cyclohm: 51-60 (12.1 - 14.2%) -- possibly the worst move ever
252 Atk Life Orb Zeraora Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 240+ Def Cyclohm: 81-96 (19.2 - 22.8%) -- 6.3% chance to 4HKO after Stealth Rock
And just for fun:
252 Atk Life Orb Zeraora Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 240+ Def Cyclohm: 148-177 (35.2 - 42.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery

0 SpA Cyclohm Flamethrower/Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Zeraora: 96-113 (30.2 - 35.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock

Walls it forever, and even outdamages it since it lacks Play Rough.

 

[かたわれ時]

I bake cakes! (Kerfluffle) @ Life Orb
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Moonblast
- Focus Blast
- Parting Shot
- Taunt

0 SpA Cyclohm Discharge vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kerfluffle: 106-126 (34.3 - 40.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
0 SpA Cyclohm Flamethrower vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kerfluffle: 79-94 (25.5 - 30.4%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
0 SpA Cyclohm Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kerfluffle: 79-94 (25.5 - 30.4%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

252 SpA Life Orb Kerfluffle Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Cyclohm: 499-588 (118.8 - 140%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Who wants a cake?

 

[theotherguytm]

Cake Knife (Aegislash) @ Choice Specs
Modest Nature
Ability: Stance Change
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 Spe / 252 SpA
- Shadow Ball
- Flash Cannon
- Toxic
- Close Combat
252 SpA Life Orb Kerfluffle Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Aegislash-Shield: 70-82 (26.8 - 31.4%) -- 0.5% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Life Orb Kerfluffle Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Aegislash-Blade: 160-190 (61.3 - 72.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ SpA Choice Specs Aegislash-Blade Flash Cannon vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kerfluffle: 504-594 (163.1 - 192.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Aegislash-Blade Shadow Ball vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kerfluffle: 252-297 (81.5 - 96.1%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock (even a mispredict does massive damage lol)
Now, anything want to switch in on this piece of broken garbage?

 

[CharSiuEmboar]

Colossoil @ Flame Orb
Jolly Nature
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
- Earthquake
- Sucker Punch
- Knock Off
- Facade

It's not pretty, and takes big chunks, but it gets the job done.

252+ SpA Choice Specs Aegislash-Blade Flash Cannon vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Colossoil: 297-351 (72.9 - 86.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after burn damage

252 Atk Guts Colossoil Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Blade: 786-926 (301.1 - 354.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Guts Colossoil Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Blade: 338-402 (129.5 - 154%) -- guaranteed OHKO

It can likely take opportunity to come in on a Specs Locked Close Combat, and Sucker Punch gibs

 

[theotherguytm]

Colossoil @ Flame Orb
Jolly Nature
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
- Earthquake
- Sucker Punch
- Knock Off
- Facade

It's not pretty, and takes big chunks, but it gets the job done.

252+ SpA Choice Specs Aegislash-Blade Flash Cannon vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Colossoil: 297-351 (72.9 - 86.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after burn damage

252 Atk Guts Colossoil Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Blade: 786-926 (301.1 - 354.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Guts Colossoil Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Blade: 338-402 (129.5 - 154%) -- guaranteed OHKO

It can likely take opportunity to come in on a Specs Locked Close Combat, and Sucker Punch gibs

Are we assuming Flame Orb is already activated? Because if not, Toxic. Which while it does technically trigger Guts and Colossoil wins the 1v1:
1. Aegi has literally 0 reason to stay in after using Toxic unless it predicts Colossoil to double out, since it's locked into a useless move.
2. Guts users hate getting poisoned, which cripples Colossoil for the rest of the match and likely limits it to coming in twice more at most.
So would this count as Yuck on those grounds? Or is it fine since it does force it out anyway?

 

[CharSiuEmboar]

'Pokémon A counters Pokémon B if Pokémon A can manually switch into Pokémon B and still win every time, even under the worst case scenario, without factoring in hax.'

Never said it was pretty, but comprehensively, Aegi is beaten every time by Colossoil. Aegi HAS to switch out or it is dead.

 

[theotherguytm]

Hold on to your knickers for some heavy calcs.
Jumbao @ Leftovers
Ability: Drought
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Solar Beam
- Wish
- Protect
I hereby claim this lives Facade into Sucker Punch after Rocks and Leftovers with 1 HP! Outspeeds it by 3 Speed points if it does not Sucker Punch. And deals 408 damage to a mon that has 408 HP with the 4 EVs in HP. Without even needing Protect.

Proof

252 Atk Guts Colossoil Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Jumbao: 120-141 (30.9 - 36.3%) -- 61.7% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Guts Colossoil Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Jumbao: 117-138 (30.1 - 35.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock

Jumbao HP:388
252 Atk Guts Colossoil Facade (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Jumbao: 224-264 (57.7 - 68%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
Possible damage amounts: (224, 227, 229, 232, 234, 237, 240, 242, 245, 248, 250, 253, 256, 258, 261, 264)
252 Atk Guts Colossoil Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Jumbao: 84-99 (21.6 - 25.5%) -- possible 5HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
Possible damage amounts: (84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99)
Stealth Rock damage on Jumbao: floor(388/8)=48 damage
Leftovers recovery: floor(388/16)=24 HP recovered
264+99+48-24=387

Colossoil HP:407
0 SpA Jumbao Solar Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Colossoil: 408-482 (100.2 - 118.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Possible damage amounts: (408, 414, 420, 422, 428, 432, 438, 444, 446, 452, 456, 462, 468, 470, 476, 482)

I could have put the 4 EVs somewhere more useful, but I wanted to flex. This should not be too hard to switch into tbh, so let's see something creative!

 

[SunMYSER]

Mollux @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Dry Skin
EVs: 252 HP / 248 SpD / 8 Spe
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Lava Plume
- Sludge Bomb
- Recover
- Calm Mind

we out here

 

[CharSiuEmboar]

Tyranitar @ Leftovers
Adamant Nature
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 100 HP / 252 Atk / 156 Spe
- Stealth Rock
- Stone Edge
- Fire Punch
- Crunch

+1 0 SpA Mollux Sludge Bomb vs. 100 HP / 0 SpD Tyranitar in Sand: 61-72 (16.6 - 19.6%) -- possible 7HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Tyranitar Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mollux: 428-506 (108.6 - 128.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

 

[snake]

Conkeldurr @ Flame Orb
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Drain Punch
- Mach Punch
- Knock Off
- Facade

252+ Atk Tyranitar Fire Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Conkeldurr: 96-114 (27.3 - 32.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after sandstorm damage and burn damage
252+ Atk Guts Conkeldurr Drain Punch vs. 100 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 784-928 (214.2 - 253.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

get conk'd