It's not like I wanted to lynch Jalmont specifically. Day 1 and Day 2 I very much wanted an explosion gone. Day 1 I defended against jalmont. Day 2 no one wanted explosion lynched still, and the lynch was between two townies (heury and jalmont) (again after I wanted the scum an explosion gone and no one would listen to me), so I just had to choose a side, and at first I chose to lynch Heury. (Also note that in the middle of this day, explosion got subbed out for UTO, which sorta made them off the table( Heury claimed, I was still notably suspicious because it wasn't a confirmed claim from a mechanical point of the game and it seemed like survival, but I still wasn't going to risk lynching our bodyguard. Also, on day 1, I think smogon was the only other person to vote an explosion, and he did it far after I did. We didn't get any more traction on it though.Jalmont wagon.
it's not possible for you to have had a towny mindset, cut the crapI think overall it's really false for smogon to say that I didn't have a towny mindset and that he did, especially for him to just say that without real reasoning, which just looks lazy. He was townread heavily day 1, but he actually met a notable amount of resistance as the thread developed; iirc cancer thought he was scum for a while.
I asked questions when they matteredAnd I still really can't wrap my head around the idea that smogon wouldn't have been following all of the format/mechanic deducing posts in the thread, many of them posted by panic. smogon just saying "oops, I don't understand the game's format" is kind of a blatant level of lying. Many posts about the format were made, if he was town and legit didn't understand the format he would have asked people like panic enough questions until he did understand.
when did you ask if heury was scum? All I see is you asking to lynch him, no discussion on what his alignment actually was.it's not possible for you to have had a towny mindset, cut the crap
I asked questions when they mattered
I skimmed over the bullcrap "if we have x and y we're in a b roll worlds" because that crap doesn't matter until it's confirmed that we have x and y. When things did matter, I asked: see me asking if heury was scum, classic example
if someone is figuring out the setup for me, I don't have to, so I won't. I literally said as much early day 1.
heywhen did you ask if heury was scum? All I see is you asking to lynch him, no discussion on what his alignment actually was.
Also at that point in the game, it was also a question not even of just the setup but on the lack of a counterclaim. You wanted to lynch heury after heury had a PR claim that no one countered. You just don't do that kind of stuff as town.
I understand that you don't lynch a bodyguard claim and I was one of the people who said we shouldn't lynch him when he first claimedEven if someone as clearly invested as you in the thread didn't understand mechanics (which itself seems unlikely), you should have at least understood claims/counterclaims.
Stupid question, I don't know any of the players that well and serial killer is really hard to play well to begin withNo. I have a question I want both of you to answer first.
Out of all 13 players that have been in this game, which three do you think are most capable of playing a perfect SK game?
You're being really insistent on me trying to lynch heury. I don't think you can in good faith that was me trying to lynch him at all. There wasn't even a vote for Pete's sake(yesterday meaning the day in the game, not the day irl)
I don't know a lot of people in this game, there's been overlap with past games but tbh this is uh a "lesser names game." If apricity was in, he'd definitely be the most capable serial killer. I fully disagree with smogon that jalmont would be good SK. I think jalmont would be near the bottom of the list due to his activity coupled with his general grumpy attitude, and I don't see that changing across alignments.
ye and I think cancerous fits that to a T, then you, then fenrir. :rolling_eyes:You're forgetting that the sk needs to avoid drawing the nightkill as well
they have to play like an anti-pr where they're in that same space of too towny to lynch and not towny enough to nightkill
Let's argue about something even more irrelevant than hypotheticals smile
I was literally threadspewed [not wolf] so me not getting nightkilled was on the wolf team. I think I was probably a viable NK option this game since I didn't overtly out myself as not PR at any point before the massclaim afaikye and I think cancerous fits that to a T, then you, then fenrir. :rolling_eyes:
jalmont I think is cursed with being unable to assert his towniness enough to avoid the lynch. he can avoid the nightkill sure but not the lynch. tbz is in the same boat.
you, smogon, prolly are one who has trouble avoiding the nk, and yet you sit here claiming to be a towny that avoided two nk's every night...