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Curse of The Fatty
- Thread starter -TheDude420
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Very nice format and very nice team as well.
Seems that you rely on your scarf-Rotom to revenge kill a lot of threats, like Infernape and Gyrados to mention a few. I believe that if your opponent has a strong pursuiter your team will have massive problems with those pokemons: an all out attacking mix-Ape can OHKO evey member of your team barring Rotom - which, by the way, is 2hko'd by fire blast.
I believe that a bulky water pokemon would fit nicely in this team, something like Suicune or Vaporeon. I think that you may replace Skarmory with a standard support Vaporeon:
Vaporeon@leftovers
nature: bold
EVs: 188 HP / 252 Def / 68 SpD
-wish
-protect
-roar / hidden power [electric]
-surf
with Vaporeon you'd earn a sure counter for Ape and Gyara - barring taunt versions if you opt for roar - and you would not need to rely only on Rotom to counter (or probably just revenge kill) those pokemons. Wish passing would also be beneficial to both Rotom and TTar.
Oh, I'd also consider making your Glsicor jolly, to counter effectively ice punch Lucario - which usually runs a jolly nature as well.
Other than that, your team is really solid.
GL!
Seems that you rely on your scarf-Rotom to revenge kill a lot of threats, like Infernape and Gyrados to mention a few. I believe that if your opponent has a strong pursuiter your team will have massive problems with those pokemons: an all out attacking mix-Ape can OHKO evey member of your team barring Rotom - which, by the way, is 2hko'd by fire blast.
I believe that a bulky water pokemon would fit nicely in this team, something like Suicune or Vaporeon. I think that you may replace Skarmory with a standard support Vaporeon:
Vaporeon@leftovers
nature: bold
EVs: 188 HP / 252 Def / 68 SpD
-wish
-protect
-roar / hidden power [electric]
-surf
with Vaporeon you'd earn a sure counter for Ape and Gyara - barring taunt versions if you opt for roar - and you would not need to rely only on Rotom to counter (or probably just revenge kill) those pokemons. Wish passing would also be beneficial to both Rotom and TTar.
Oh, I'd also consider making your Glsicor jolly, to counter effectively ice punch Lucario - which usually runs a jolly nature as well.
Other than that, your team is really solid.
GL!
Nice format! Really! Can you teach me how to do that? lol
This is one of the better warstories I've seen, by far.
You said that Rotom covers Tyranitar's weaknesses. That isn't that true. Does it cover Grass? Does it cover Water? My point exactly. There's always Roserade for that, but again, better fix that.
Your team is that solid, that I couldn't find a big weakness. I can say this though: Two water weaknesses and only Roserade for a resist is begging for Rain Dance Chaos. It's true that you have Tyranitar to send the rain packing, but standard rain sweepers like Kingdra can take care of T-Tar with ease.
That, and the fact that the font is too little have caught my eye... =p
Good Luck with this team, it's a good one.
This is one of the better warstories I've seen, by far.
You said that Rotom covers Tyranitar's weaknesses. That isn't that true. Does it cover Grass? Does it cover Water? My point exactly. There's always Roserade for that, but again, better fix that.
Your team is that solid, that I couldn't find a big weakness. I can say this though: Two water weaknesses and only Roserade for a resist is begging for Rain Dance Chaos. It's true that you have Tyranitar to send the rain packing, but standard rain sweepers like Kingdra can take care of T-Tar with ease.
That, and the fact that the font is too little have caught my eye... =p
Good Luck with this team, it's a good one.
I'll give Vaporeon a shot and test Jolly Gliscor.
I'm still trying to decide if Sash or Lefties is better. I've been testing it. HP Ground seems like a bit of a waste considering I can put both of them to sleep and let something else on my team deal with them.
I guess I can, lol. I made it in Photoshop. I agree with you on the weakness to Water. I'm going to be testing a Vaporeon in the place of Skarmory. That should seal up the Water weakness.
It's a good team and its good to see another snorlax user, however I recommend Fire Punch on Snorlax rather than earthqake so that it can hit Gengar and the Rotom forms. It also gets a OHKO on Scizor.
If I do that, I'll be completely walled by Tyranitar. I have ways to take down Gengar and the Rotom formes. With a little prediction, I can take down Scizor too.
My Snorlax doesn't really find Tyranitar a problem because once a couple of curses return can damage Tyranitar but Tyranitar can't really damage me. I personally prefer fire punch because Scizor with superpower commonly switch into Snorlax.
As you can see, his (or her) team has reliable counters to Scizor like rotom, so Scizor isn't that of a problem to risk a moveslot for, especially on a CurseLax.
The problem of the normal/ground combo is the full inability to hit both Gengar and Rotom (and Mismagius, though it's rarely seen in OU), that's why return should be paired with either fire punch or crunch. After a few curses even CB TTar won't break Snorlax's defence (barring crits, obviously), so it's preferable to hit it with NVE return rather than being completely unable to hit the aforementioned ghosts.
He neither carries a pursuiter to get rid of them, so crunch/fire punch over EQ is definitely something to consider.
He neither carries a pursuiter to get rid of them, so crunch/fire punch over EQ is definitely something to consider.
I don't think Jolly Gliscor is that necessary to this team to be honest. Consider why it is used: to cover Lucario completely. He also has a Scarf Rotom that completely walls it as well, and also outspeeds it. I think the bulk on Gliscor would be best suited to cover this teams needs. As a result, I propose a really bulky Gliscor EV spread. Perhaps invest in more Defense and less Speed, with just enough speed to beat Jolly Tyranitar.
On CurseLax, I also recommend Fire Punch over Earthquake so that you can hit not only Ghosts, but also Skarmory, who will always try to phaze you out after a few boosts. It will definitely be to your benefit to hit Skarmory as hard as possible with a few Fire Punches to eliminate it from the match with little trouble. Besides, with the more defensive Gliscor that I proposed, Tyranitar should not be a problem at all, meaning Earthquake has little use.
On Roserade, I definitely recommend Focus Sash, despite the sanstorm on your team. I ran a similar team with a Sash Roserade and a Tyranitar as backup, and it works fine despite the seemingly counter-intuitive purposes. Just make sure to not play Roserade as a suicude lead (for example, Azelf or Aerodactyl), so that the sandstorm works to your benefit as opposed to against you. The final piece of advice I'd consider on Roserade is HP Ground over HP Fire. I suggest this simply because of the leads of the metagame today. Heatran and Metagross are prominent, and HP Ground gets them both, as well as the somewhat common Infernape lead.
Everything else seems solid, you have a way of dealing with most stuff provided your strategy works out. Good team, and very nice format =)
On CurseLax, I also recommend Fire Punch over Earthquake so that you can hit not only Ghosts, but also Skarmory, who will always try to phaze you out after a few boosts. It will definitely be to your benefit to hit Skarmory as hard as possible with a few Fire Punches to eliminate it from the match with little trouble. Besides, with the more defensive Gliscor that I proposed, Tyranitar should not be a problem at all, meaning Earthquake has little use.
On Roserade, I definitely recommend Focus Sash, despite the sanstorm on your team. I ran a similar team with a Sash Roserade and a Tyranitar as backup, and it works fine despite the seemingly counter-intuitive purposes. Just make sure to not play Roserade as a suicude lead (for example, Azelf or Aerodactyl), so that the sandstorm works to your benefit as opposed to against you. The final piece of advice I'd consider on Roserade is HP Ground over HP Fire. I suggest this simply because of the leads of the metagame today. Heatran and Metagross are prominent, and HP Ground gets them both, as well as the somewhat common Infernape lead.
Everything else seems solid, you have a way of dealing with most stuff provided your strategy works out. Good team, and very nice format =)