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NOC Deathnote NOC Mafia - GAME OVER, Postgame in #714

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Well, here's my reason:
NO REASON in particular, just a preliminary decision since it is quite difficult to see who is Mafia or who is not.
I hope to see a clearer overview during night action executions.
 
Just to make something clear : I don't believe it is really in town's interest to leave everyone to their own devices and rely on blind scumhunting. It is obviously not safe to claim and that is why I think ways for townies to clean their own "silently" will reduce our margin of error. Disguise artist and watcher I'll reiterate that I think I'm a pretty decent target for your roles tonight. Other roles should probably not target me for this to work as I hope it will.
 
VOTE count 1.1 I'm gone a lot of today so suck it up

Aura Guardian(5): Josh, Gronkasaurus Rex, Mithril, acidphoenix, Texas Cloverleaf
pancake(1): MoodyCloud
MoodyCloud(1): pancake
Blank Slate(1): Thetwinmasters
 
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VOTE count 1.1 I'm gone a lot of today so suck it up

Aura Guardian(3): Josh, Gronkasaurus Rex, Mithril
pancake(2): acidphoenix, MoodyCloud
MoodyCloud(1): pancake
Blank Slate(1):Thetwinmasters
Hitmonleet (1): Texas Cloverleaf
pancake Texas Cloverleaf Haruno you're probably town. Please sheep me on aura. Blank slate is as newbie as it gets if he's scum aura takes priority as the more experienced player. Hitmonleet is just lynchbait. Also acid + moody pancake is a bad wagon please get off, the other 3 wagons are at least reasonable but pancake is not a good lynch today.
 
I do not disagree and definitely think Hitmonleet is a reasonable option, as are moody and bs. I just think aura is caught scum and am much more confident in a scum flip.
 
Hi : )

Haruno: The thoughts behind their suggestions seem towny, but the ideas behind them, not so much. Still, I have a towny gut feeling.
What does this mean lol? What's the difference between ideas and thoughts Hitmonleet?
Where's your vote at?

Josh; have you cooled down on your 'if aura's scum, hitmonleet is significantly likely to be town' theory?
Also I'm not seeing pancake town (really rather null, tone reads town-ish, helpful, but not sure where the content comes from), want to hear more on that?

As for this post, you can't have it both ways. You say the situation should read as Hitmonleet looking townier but then turn around and state that you down read him as town. I'm still not sure what to think on Hitmonleet outside of his being new, but your continued defense of him (while also attempting to distance yourself really bothers me).

[stuff about Haruno which is true]

All that being said though, I'm going to vote asek for now. He has two posts, and all he really talked about was being against claiming and thought Twin was town just because they agreed on claiming. Some actual thoughts on players would be nice.
The first part of the post is referring to Josh, and so it might be a good vote, but looks like he's trying to avoid picking a fight/pushing with Josh. As in there is motivation to say that what Josh is doing is scummy (well annoying/bothered by which implies some sort of scummy) and in context not moving vote there but instead to someone who's posted twice.
Also they avoided comment on the aura guardian wagon, though I suppose that's better than justifying the unvote in a lot of circumstances.
 
Josh; have you cooled down on your 'if aura's scum, hitmonleet is significantly likely to be town' theory?
why would i "cool down"? do you disagree that it is unlikely aura would bus a partner like that immediately? if so, why?

Also I'm not seeing pancake town (really rather null, tone reads town-ish, helpful, but not sure where the content comes from), want to hear more on that?
pancake isnt even a tr i have, hes null. does not change he is a bad wagon today due to productive attitude.
 
Gronkasaurus Rex What I mean by that is that their posts and reasonings are town, but the plan itself isn't exactly the best for the town.

As for my vote, I think that I'll Lynch Aura Guardian. Their argument has been flimsy at best, they've been incredibly antagonistic, and they just seem really scummy in their posts.
 
Why? pancake just offered valuable discussion other than just an argument that's basically boiled down to his read. Granted, he hasn't VOTED yet...

Oh, speaking of votes, I checked, and lost a post while ordering my thoughts (I'm tired, so sue me) and looks like I forgot to UNVOTE
The first part of this I think is directed at twin's vote of pancake. Aura conceding/implying that pancake's content is less good because they haven't voted followed up by unvoting, commenting on reads and not laying a vote down is really not great.

Anyway, If anyone is town, Id gladly join that wagon.
What does this mean hey?

Josh; just seeing that you said Hitmonleet is not a bad option above (though you said they're lynchbait also) made me think you had less of a view of mutual exclusivity for aura/hitmonleet. I think probably not, but more because I don't see them doing it that way (because you'd know the person your pushing is also scum which it doesn't sound like), rather than the timing of it (immediate early game bus/vote seems to be a strategy some employ though I don't think it's great).
Yep and soz, mis-interpreted you on pancake, was reading bad wagon as townread.
 
"pancake isnt even a tr i have, hes null. does not change he is a bad wagon today due to productive attitude."

tbh he might even be on the scum side a little, but i want him to sheep me ;)
 
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