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Deoxys E Discussion

Should the SPEED Version of deoxys be allowed in standard play

  • Yes - it has sufficient counters

    Votes: 170 51.1%
  • No - the movepool is still too wide and the "counters" don't wall deoxys good enough

    Votes: 163 48.9%

  • Total voters
    333
Ninjask puts a end to stall Deoxys(Night Shade is only a waste of time while it SD,if it isn't Taunted).Protect,bam,you're faster.X-Scissor,bam,it's dead.

Taunt will stop Ninjask Swords Dancing. After that, even a max attack Ninjask fails to 2HKO with X-Scissor if Deoxys-E has only gotten 1 Cosmic Power in.
 
Taunt will stop Ninjask Swords Dancing. After that, even a max attack Ninjask fails to 2HKO with X-Scissor if Deoxys-E has only gotten 1 Cosmic Power in.

Don't switch in,simple.
Wants a real counter?Try Absol(Super Luck,pursuit,Night Slash high crit rate=dead Deoxys))
Best counter EVER for that Deoxys?Bibarel.Immune to Night Shade,lols at Cosmic Power(ha,Unaware!!!).There.
 
apparently brazilian dragonite is unaware of lifeorb superpower which is meant for blissey that OHKO's either of those two suggested "REAL" counters >_>; silliness
 
Yes, I realize that I was wrong saying it was a 5HKO, my math was off. So, a specific Jirachi set can beat my stall Deoxys. Still, I find it funny that you're resorting to flames now. Have you nothing else to say besides "your set sucks"?

Nope, not really. It's kinda my thing. Really, it's what I do here. I say things suck.

My main issue with people saying that Deoxys is overpowered is that most of them just don't realize that they just need to pack a counter for it. Look at Gyarados. An Electric move lead is almost essential now because of him; but before that was he overpowered? No, your team was just weak to him. So with Deoxys, just because your team doesn't have something to wall "Special sweeper with Fighting move for Blissey" doesn't mean that it's an overpowered monster; on the contrary he can barely do more than an Alakazam Psychic with one Psycho Boost. The conditions for being OU aren't "already walled by the standard walls", but "are they too powerful for the metagame" (no) and "is there something that can stop it?" (Spiritomb, Jirachi, Dusknoir to an extent, Lucario to an extent with Extremespeed (yay nice resistances), Dugtrio on the revenge, Special Wall Cress, bulky Mesprit, Uxie, uh... yeah.)
 
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