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Nice. This isn't a double post. Anyways, here are my votes.
- Chindle line by Ema Skye
Moltres is a good check to Kartana and Magearna, but unfortunaly it isn't in the meta and even if it would be here, SR give it some trouble. Ema's Flarenix is a bulkier Moltres which is immune to Rocks thanks to Magic Guard or it can somewhat negate the damage with Regenator and many good Removal options. Sure it's weaker than Moltres, but unlike it, Flarenix has Nasty Plot and some good coverage options. I'm really excited for this one.
- Firmlio line by I am the Imposter
I really love this one. A Pokémon that has good offensive and defensive potential with its stats, typing and abilities. This will definetly find a place as a better Lycanroc-D, who I think has a really good place in the meta right now. Sure it's used as a lead, but it can also funtion as a midgame mon and as a late game cleaner. Really excited for this one too.
- Tikiholi by Magmajudis
You really made it hard to choose. I didn't want to vote for myself
, since your subs are way better than mine,and I love all of your subs. Then I realised that Tikiholi had "Helping Souls", which is a really cool move. It works well with Trick Room teams, which was intended, and those teams tend to sacrifise some of their teammates in order to get an abuser in safetly. In addition Whimsicott is a good lead for this teams and it has priority Memento, which gives Tikiholi a 80 BP Stab move from the start. Like the others, really excited for this one.
1.Tikilohi
2. Panahu
3. Lipawai
I really like them all, but those are my favorites. Great job to everyone, this may be my second favorite slate yet after the UB slate
2. Panahu
3. Lipawai
I really like them all, but those are my favorites. Great job to everyone, this may be my second favorite slate yet after the UB slate
Votes are in! Here are our winners:
Congrats to our winners! Personally, I'm really excited for them and I can't wait to use them.
As mentioned before, we'll have a balancing/testing slate now, which will last 96 hours. After that we're going to do the alolan form slate for the first island.
Here are a few more thing that I want to mention:
That's it guys, I hope you had a great christmas and I'll wish you a great day! Stay safe and I'll see you very soon!
- Chindle, Chaldera and Flarenix by Ema Skye
- Firmlio, Irotyke and Coyotalloy by I am the Impostor
- Tikilohi by Magmajudis
Congrats to our winners! Personally, I'm really excited for them and I can't wait to use them.
As mentioned before, we'll have a balancing/testing slate now, which will last 96 hours. After that we're going to do the alolan form slate for the first island.
Here are a few more thing that I want to mention:
- I highly encourage you to join our Discord Server, in order for easier feedback and constant receival of new informations. You can also ask people in the server for a match, when you want to try out a team or if you're just bored. Our mod is playable on DragonHeaven or the test server.
- Speaking of which. We have a server for teambuilding now. Provided by the amazing duo of Petuuuhhh & Scoopapa. The server is still in beta, but those two are currently working on it. Thanks to them for this amazing christmas gift! I'll do another announcement once the winners are implemented.
That's it guys, I hope you had a great christmas and I'll wish you a great day! Stay safe and I'll see you very soon!
So i want to express my thoughts on some mons:
Banworthy mons:
Kartana:
This thing basically has two viable checks that always work: Buzzwole and Flarenix. It's still as strong as it previously was.
Magearna:
Never used it but got swept by it. Seems either broken or extremely good i don't know how i feel about it.
New additions:
UBs:
Snoxin:
Looks really good, has some extremely annoying sets too (it's stallbreaker set is hell even for some offensive mons)
Plubia:
Extremely versatile (can be a Choiced Attacker, a Special wall, a Set-up Sweeper, a Trapper, a Stallbreaker, and a late-game sweeper on e it's checks are removed), is mostly restricted by it's speed.
Komodond:
I don't think it's as good as the other UBs. Except in doubles. (The council forgot to announce it so:
DLCmons has a double format now, playable on DragonHeaven.)
So yeah, Komodond seems to be one of the, if not the, best mons in doubles.
Thundigeist:
Very potent attacker that can and will sweep your team if you're not careful.
Anglevolt:
Insane sweeping potential, with Dragobd Dance and Swords Dance, but also seems pretty good under Rain.
Forsnaken:
Excellent wall with a good typing and a pretty good attack stat. Also seems potent in doubles.
Kinolau forms:
Tapu Bulu-Kinolau:
This one is a great attacker on the physical side (Stone Edge hits hard, Vegetal Ambush is an excellent alternative to Wood Hammer without recoil), is really bulky with an Assault Vest (since it's SpD is also boosted by the Sandstorm) and can overall fit in a lot of teams.
Tapu Lele-Kinolau:
Is a good physical wall, but don't try to run an offensive set it's outclassed by normal Tapu Lele in that domain.
Tapu Koko-Kinolau:
Works great as a physical attacker, that is a great punish to some mons like Plubia or Xurkitree which likes puting the opponent to sleep.
Tapu Fini-Kinolau:
This thing is incredibly good under Rain, and is by itself half why i consider the meta a weather war right now. It hits extremely hard (even unboosted) with Fin Blade, and is extremely fast. It's definitly one of the best mons in the tier currently.
New additions (the last ones we did):
I have no idea how they are because we can't test them yet, but i jut want to say that Tikilohi is entirely designer around Trick Room. It's signature attack basically is perfect in those teams: Trick Room teams are usually extremely offensive and Pokemons die quickly, Whimsicott with priority Memento is often seen, and so on. Deaths are common, which makes Tikilohi's STAB even stronger.
Other Pokemons I want to talk about:
Xurkitree is really good but lacks coverage and relies on luck, and Buzzwole+Chansey are still excellent walls.
Finally, I'd say the meta is really interesting (except if you dislike weather wars because between Tapu Fini Kinolau and Tapu Bulu-Kinolau it's really good currently).. Sorry for writing an essay like that haha !
Also ban Kart pls
Banworthy mons:
Kartana:
This thing basically has two viable checks that always work: Buzzwole and Flarenix. It's still as strong as it previously was.
Magearna:
Never used it but got swept by it. Seems either broken or extremely good i don't know how i feel about it.
New additions:
UBs:
Snoxin:
Looks really good, has some extremely annoying sets too (it's stallbreaker set is hell even for some offensive mons)
Plubia:
Extremely versatile (can be a Choiced Attacker, a Special wall, a Set-up Sweeper, a Trapper, a Stallbreaker, and a late-game sweeper on e it's checks are removed), is mostly restricted by it's speed.
Komodond:
I don't think it's as good as the other UBs. Except in doubles. (The council forgot to announce it so:
DLCmons has a double format now, playable on DragonHeaven.)
So yeah, Komodond seems to be one of the, if not the, best mons in doubles.
Thundigeist:
Very potent attacker that can and will sweep your team if you're not careful.
Anglevolt:
Insane sweeping potential, with Dragobd Dance and Swords Dance, but also seems pretty good under Rain.
Forsnaken:
Excellent wall with a good typing and a pretty good attack stat. Also seems potent in doubles.
Kinolau forms:
Tapu Bulu-Kinolau:
This one is a great attacker on the physical side (Stone Edge hits hard, Vegetal Ambush is an excellent alternative to Wood Hammer without recoil), is really bulky with an Assault Vest (since it's SpD is also boosted by the Sandstorm) and can overall fit in a lot of teams.
Tapu Lele-Kinolau:
Is a good physical wall, but don't try to run an offensive set it's outclassed by normal Tapu Lele in that domain.
Tapu Koko-Kinolau:
Works great as a physical attacker, that is a great punish to some mons like Plubia or Xurkitree which likes puting the opponent to sleep.
Tapu Fini-Kinolau:
This thing is incredibly good under Rain, and is by itself half why i consider the meta a weather war right now. It hits extremely hard (even unboosted) with Fin Blade, and is extremely fast. It's definitly one of the best mons in the tier currently.
New additions (the last ones we did):
I have no idea how they are because we can't test them yet, but i jut want to say that Tikilohi is entirely designer around Trick Room. It's signature attack basically is perfect in those teams: Trick Room teams are usually extremely offensive and Pokemons die quickly, Whimsicott with priority Memento is often seen, and so on. Deaths are common, which makes Tikilohi's STAB even stronger.
Other Pokemons I want to talk about:
Xurkitree is really good but lacks coverage and relies on luck, and Buzzwole+Chansey are still excellent walls.
Finally, I'd say the meta is really interesting (except if you dislike weather wars because between Tapu Fini Kinolau and Tapu Bulu-Kinolau it's really good currently).. Sorry for writing an essay like that haha !
It has the "Alola Friendly" format, which only uses mons in the Alola Dex
Time for a new slate, people!
This time we're going to do something like the DLCs for Sword and Shield: Reintroduce old Pokémons!
The format for this mod is "Alola Friendly", which basically only has mons in the Alola Dex.
In this slate you can submit old Pokémons that aren't in the Dex yet.
Here are the rules:
Stay safe and I'll see you again next year!
This time we're going to do something like the DLCs for Sword and Shield: Reintroduce old Pokémons!
The format for this mod is "Alola Friendly", which basically only has mons in the Alola Dex.
In this slate you can submit old Pokémons that aren't in the Dex yet.
Here are the rules:
- You can submit up to 8 Evolutionary lines
- You are restricted to 1 Legendary
- The Pokémons have to fit the volcano island
Name: here
Typing:
Stats: here
Ability: here
Reasoning: here
Typing:
Stats: here
Ability: here
Reasoning: here
Stay safe and I'll see you again next year!
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Here are my submissions!
Name: Numel
Typing:
Stats: 60 | 60 | 40 | 65 | 45 | 35 (BST 305)
Ability: Oblivious | Own Tempo | Simple (HA)
Name: Camerupt
Typing:
Stats: 70 | 100 | 70 | 105 | 75 | 40 (BST 460)
Ability: Anger Point | Magma Armor | Solid Rock (HA)
Reasoning: Pretty easy to explain, the "Eruption Pokémon" does fit the volcano island best out of all Pokémon. (well, same thing for Typhlosion and Heatran)
I mean it makes so much sense. It could easily live in the rift zone areas of the volcanic landscape.
Name: Horsea
Typing:
Stats: 30 | 40 | 70 | 70 | 25 | 60 (BST 295)
Ability: Swift Swim | Sniper | Damp (HA)
Name: Seadra
Typing:
Stats: 55 | 65 | 95 | 95 | 45 | 85 (BST 440)
Ability: Poison Point | Sniper | Damp (HA)
Name: Kingdra
Typing:
Stats: 75 | 95 | 95 | 95 | 95 | 85 (BST 540)
Ability: Swift Swim | Sniper | Damp (HA)
Reasoning: Seahorses are a part of the ocean and since Hawaii has many snorkling places (which we would base our world base), we could jst have a snorkling attraction, where you could see this mon as well as the following ones.
Name: Krabby
Typing:
Stats: 30 | 105 | 90 | 25 | 25 | 50 (BST 325)
Ability: Hyper Cutter | Shell Armor | Sheer Force (HA)
Name: Kingler
Typing:
Stats: 55 | 130 | 115 | 50 | 50 | 75 (BST 475)
Ability: Hyper Cutter | Shell Armor | Sheer Force (HA)
Reasoning: Crabs are often associated with beaches and Hawaiis Big Island, which is the inspiration for the volcano island, have big black sand beaches, where these two crabs could live in. I mean, Corphish and Claucher already exist, so there's room for Krabby.
Name: Qwilfish
Typing:
Stats: 65 | 95 | 85 | 55 | 55 | 85 (BST 440)
Ability: Poison Point | Swift Swim | Intimidate (HA)
Reasoning: It's just another fish. A puffer fish to be exact and it would be fitting to be part of the ocean with other fish Pokémons.
Name: Cyndaquil
Typing:
Stats: 39 | 52 | 43 | 60 | 50 | 65 (BST 309)
Ability: Blaze | Flash Fire (HA)
Name: Quilava
Typing:
Stats: 58 | 64 | 58 | 80 | 65 | 80 (BST 405)
Ability: Blaze | Flash Fire (HA)
Name: Typhlosion
Typing:
Stats: 78 | 84 | 78 | 109| 85 | 100 (BST 534)
Ability: Blaze | Flash Fire (HA)
Reasoning: This Pokémon is known for it's explosive fire power (pun intended) and it fits the Volcano island very well just like Camerupt.
Name: Chikorita
Typing:
Stats: 45 | 49 | 65 | 49 | 65 | 45 (BST 318)
Ability: Overgrowth | Leaf Guard (HA)
Name: Bayleef
Typing:
Stats: 60 | 62 | 80 | 63 | 80 | 60 (BST 405)
Ability: Overgrowth | Leaf Guard (HA)
Name: Meganium
Typing:
Stats: 80 | 82 | 100 | 83 | 100 | 80 (BST 525)
Ability: Overgrowth | Leaf Guard (HA)
Reasoning: Chikorita and its evolutions are known for their growing abilities and the grounds around a volcano are often fertile soil. Growing plants is more efficient there.
Name: Totodile
Typing:
Stats: 50 | 65 | 64 | 44 | 48 | 43 (BST 314)
Ability: Torrent | Sheer Force (HA)
Name: Croconaw
Typing:
Stats: 65 | 80 | 80 | 59 | 63 | 58 (BST 405)
Ability: Torrent | Sheer Force (HA)
Name: Feraligatr
Typing:
Stats: 85 | 105 | 100 | 79 | 83 | 78 (BST 530)
Ability: Torrent | Sheer Force (HA)
Reasoning: This one is a bit of a stretch. I included many sea mons, because (suprise) it makes sense and they should've been in the Alola dex already. Seahorses, Crabs and Fish make sense, but a Gator is really outragous. But it's part of the starter trio, so it has a reason to stay. Maybe.
Plus, they can even be found with the island scan. Though many starters can be found by this, I wanted to give the Jotho starter more attention.
Name: Shaymin
Typing:
Stats: 100 | 100 | 100 | 100 | 100 | 100 (BST 600)
Ability: Natural Cure
Name: Shaymin-Sky
Typing:
Stats: 100 | 103 | 75 | 120 | 75 | 127 (BST 600)
Ability: Serene Grace
Reasoning: I mentioned before with Meganium that Volcanos create fertile soils after erupting. A legendary that protects nature and is known for growing plants makes sense. Why not Celebi? Well, Shaymin isn't like the other mythicals like Mew, Celebi and Jirachi, since it has a different form. Plus Manaphy is the 100 base stat mythical of Sinnoh.
Name: Numel
Typing:
Stats: 60 | 60 | 40 | 65 | 45 | 35 (BST 305)
Ability: Oblivious | Own Tempo | Simple (HA)
Name: Camerupt
Typing:
Stats: 70 | 100 | 70 | 105 | 75 | 40 (BST 460)
Ability: Anger Point | Magma Armor | Solid Rock (HA)
Reasoning: Pretty easy to explain, the "Eruption Pokémon" does fit the volcano island best out of all Pokémon. (well, same thing for Typhlosion and Heatran)
I mean it makes so much sense. It could easily live in the rift zone areas of the volcanic landscape.
Name: Horsea
Typing:
Stats: 30 | 40 | 70 | 70 | 25 | 60 (BST 295)
Ability: Swift Swim | Sniper | Damp (HA)
Name: Seadra
Typing:
Stats: 55 | 65 | 95 | 95 | 45 | 85 (BST 440)
Ability: Poison Point | Sniper | Damp (HA)
Name: Kingdra
Typing:
Stats: 75 | 95 | 95 | 95 | 95 | 85 (BST 540)
Ability: Swift Swim | Sniper | Damp (HA)
Reasoning: Seahorses are a part of the ocean and since Hawaii has many snorkling places (which we would base our world base), we could jst have a snorkling attraction, where you could see this mon as well as the following ones.
Name: Krabby
Typing:
Stats: 30 | 105 | 90 | 25 | 25 | 50 (BST 325)
Ability: Hyper Cutter | Shell Armor | Sheer Force (HA)
Name: Kingler
Typing:
Stats: 55 | 130 | 115 | 50 | 50 | 75 (BST 475)
Ability: Hyper Cutter | Shell Armor | Sheer Force (HA)
Reasoning: Crabs are often associated with beaches and Hawaiis Big Island, which is the inspiration for the volcano island, have big black sand beaches, where these two crabs could live in. I mean, Corphish and Claucher already exist, so there's room for Krabby.
Name: Qwilfish
Typing:
Stats: 65 | 95 | 85 | 55 | 55 | 85 (BST 440)
Ability: Poison Point | Swift Swim | Intimidate (HA)
Reasoning: It's just another fish. A puffer fish to be exact and it would be fitting to be part of the ocean with other fish Pokémons.
Name: Cyndaquil
Typing:
Stats: 39 | 52 | 43 | 60 | 50 | 65 (BST 309)
Ability: Blaze | Flash Fire (HA)
Name: Quilava
Typing:
Stats: 58 | 64 | 58 | 80 | 65 | 80 (BST 405)
Ability: Blaze | Flash Fire (HA)
Name: Typhlosion
Typing:
Stats: 78 | 84 | 78 | 109| 85 | 100 (BST 534)
Ability: Blaze | Flash Fire (HA)
Reasoning: This Pokémon is known for it's explosive fire power (pun intended) and it fits the Volcano island very well just like Camerupt.
Name: Chikorita
Typing:
Stats: 45 | 49 | 65 | 49 | 65 | 45 (BST 318)
Ability: Overgrowth | Leaf Guard (HA)
Name: Bayleef
Typing:
Stats: 60 | 62 | 80 | 63 | 80 | 60 (BST 405)
Ability: Overgrowth | Leaf Guard (HA)
Name: Meganium
Typing:
Stats: 80 | 82 | 100 | 83 | 100 | 80 (BST 525)
Ability: Overgrowth | Leaf Guard (HA)
Reasoning: Chikorita and its evolutions are known for their growing abilities and the grounds around a volcano are often fertile soil. Growing plants is more efficient there.
Name: Totodile
Typing:
Stats: 50 | 65 | 64 | 44 | 48 | 43 (BST 314)
Ability: Torrent | Sheer Force (HA)
Name: Croconaw
Typing:
Stats: 65 | 80 | 80 | 59 | 63 | 58 (BST 405)
Ability: Torrent | Sheer Force (HA)
Name: Feraligatr
Typing:
Stats: 85 | 105 | 100 | 79 | 83 | 78 (BST 530)
Ability: Torrent | Sheer Force (HA)
Reasoning: This one is a bit of a stretch. I included many sea mons, because (suprise) it makes sense and they should've been in the Alola dex already. Seahorses, Crabs and Fish make sense, but a Gator is really outragous. But it's part of the starter trio, so it has a reason to stay. Maybe.
Name: Shaymin
Typing:
Stats: 100 | 100 | 100 | 100 | 100 | 100 (BST 600)
Ability: Natural Cure
Name: Shaymin-Sky
Typing:
Stats: 100 | 103 | 75 | 120 | 75 | 127 (BST 600)
Ability: Serene Grace
Reasoning: I mentioned before with Meganium that Volcanos create fertile soils after erupting. A legendary that protects nature and is known for growing plants makes sense. Why not Celebi? Well, Shaymin isn't like the other mythicals like Mew, Celebi and Jirachi, since it has a different form. Plus Manaphy is the 100 base stat mythical of Sinnoh.
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Name:Drilbur
Typing:
Stats:60-85-40-30-45-68
Abilities: Mold Breaker-Sand Force-Sand Rush
Name:Excadrill
Typing:
Stats:110-135-60-50-65-88
Abilities: Mold Breaker-Sand Force-Sand Rush
Explanation: I don't know why but there's something with Excadrill that make me think it fits on a volcano. It's also a good Magearna conter and a sand abuser (which we don't have yet but would be good with Tapu Bulu Kinolau.
Name:Volcanion
Typing:
Stats:80-110-120-130-90-70
Abilities: Water Absorb
Explanation: There literally the word "volcano" in it's name. It also acts as a pretty good Kartana check, could boost Sun popularity (i like weather wars) and overall would be pretty good in the tier
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i would like to announce that Magmajudis is now in the council!
gonna edit in some subs later
gonna edit in some subs later
Subs are closed ! You can now vote (Voing will last for around 3-4 days)
Also i want to thank the council for letting me in !
Also i want to thank the council for letting me in !
Here are my submissions!
Name: Numel
Typing:
Stats: 60 | 60 | 40 | 65 | 45 | 35 (BST 305)
Ability: Oblivious | Own Tempo | Simple (HA)
Name: Camerupt
Typing:
Stats: 70 | 100 | 70 | 105 | 75 | 40 (BST 460)
Ability: Anger Point | Magma Armor | Solid Rock (HA)
Reasoning: Pretty easy to explain, the "Eruption Pokémon" does fit the volcano island best out of all Pokémon. (well, same thing for Typhlosion and Heatran)
I mean it makes so much sense. It could easily live in the rift zone areas of the volcanic landscape.
Name: Horsea
Typing:
Stats: 30 | 40 | 70 | 70 | 25 | 60 (BST 295)
Ability: Swift Swim | Sniper | Damp (HA)
Name: Seadra
Typing:
Stats: 55 | 65 | 95 | 95 | 45 | 85 (BST 440)
Ability: Poison Point | Sniper | Damp (HA)
Name: Kingdra
Typing:
Stats: 75 | 95 | 95 | 95 | 95 | 85 (BST 540)
Ability: Swift Swim | Sniper | Damp (HA)
Reasoning: Seahorses are a part of the ocean and since Hawaii has many snorkling places (which we would base our world base), we could jst have a snorkling attraction, where you could see this mon as well as the following ones.
Name: Krabby
Typing:
Stats: 30 | 105 | 90 | 25 | 25 | 50 (BST 325)
Ability: Hyper Cutter | Shell Armor | Sheer Force (HA)
Name: Kingler
Typing:
Stats: 55 | 130 | 115 | 50 | 50 | 75 (BST 475)
Ability: Hyper Cutter | Shell Armor | Sheer Force (HA)
Reasoning: Crabs are often associated with beaches and Hawaiis Big Island, which is the inspiration for the volcano island, have big black sand beaches, where these two crabs could live in. I mean, Corphish and Claucher already exist, so there's room for Krabby.
Name: Qwilfish
Typing:
Stats: 65 | 95 | 85 | 55 | 55 | 85 (BST 440)
Ability: Poison Point | Swift Swim | Intimidate (HA)
Reasoning: It's just another fish. A puffer fish to be exact and it would be fitting to be part of the ocean with other fish Pokémons.
Name: Cyndaquil
Typing:
Stats: 39 | 52 | 43 | 60 | 50 | 65 (BST 309)
Ability: Blaze | Flash Fire (HA)
Name: Quilava
Typing:
Stats: 58 | 64 | 58 | 80 | 65 | 80 (BST 405)
Ability: Blaze | Flash Fire (HA)
Name: Typhlosion
Typing:
Stats: 78 | 84 | 78 | 109| 85 | 100 (BST 534)
Ability: Blaze | Flash Fire (HA)
Reasoning: This Pokémon is known for it's explosive fire power (pun intended) and it fits the Volcano island very well just like Camerupt.
Name: Chikorita
Typing:
Stats: 45 | 49 | 65 | 49 | 65 | 45 (BST 318)
Ability: Overgrowth | Leaf Guard (HA)
Name: Bayleef
Typing:
Stats: 60 | 62 | 80 | 63 | 80 | 60 (BST 405)
Ability: Overgrowth | Leaf Guard (HA)
Name: Meganium
Typing:
Stats: 80 | 82 | 100 | 83 | 100 | 80 (BST 525)
Ability: Overgrowth | Leaf Guard (HA)
Reasoning: Chikorita and its evolutions are known for their growing abilities and the grounds around a volcano are often fertile soil. Growing plants is more efficient there.Plus, they can even be found with the island scan. Though many starters can be found by this, I wanted to give the Jotho starter more attention.
Name: Totodile
Typing:
Stats: 50 | 65 | 64 | 44 | 48 | 43 (BST 314)
Ability: Torrent | Sheer Force (HA)
Name: Croconaw
Typing:
Stats: 65 | 80 | 80 | 59 | 63 | 58 (BST 405)
Ability: Torrent | Sheer Force (HA)
Name: Feraligatr
Typing:
Stats: 85 | 105 | 100 | 79 | 83 | 78 (BST 530)
Ability: Torrent | Sheer Force (HA)
Reasoning: This one is a bit of a stretch. I included many sea mons, because (suprise) it makes sense and they should've been in the Alola dex already. Seahorses, Crabs and Fish make sense, but a Gator is really outragous. But it's part of the starter trio, so it has a reason to stay. Maybe.
Name: Shaymin
Typing:
Stats: 100 | 100 | 100 | 100 | 100 | 100 (BST 600)
Ability: Natural Cure
Name: Shaymin-Sky
Typing:
Stats: 100 | 103 | 75 | 120 | 75 | 127 (BST 600)
Ability: Serene Grace
Reasoning: I mentioned before with Meganium that Volcanos create fertile soils after erupting. A legendary that protects nature and is known for growing plants makes sense. Why not Celebi? Well, Shaymin isn't like the other mythicals like Mew, Celebi and Jirachi, since it has a different form. Plus Manaphy is the 100 base stat mythical of Sinnoh.
Name:Drilbur
Typing:View attachment 304649View attachment 304650
Stats:60-85-40-30-45-68
Abilities: Mold Breaker-Sand Force-Sand Rush
Name:Excadrill
Typing:View attachment 304649View attachment 304650
Stats:110-135-60-50-65-88
Abilities: Mold Breaker-Sand Force-Sand Rush
Explanation: I don't know why but there's something with Excadrill that make me think it fits on a volcano. It's also a good Magearna conter and a sand abuser (which we don't have yet but would be good with Tapu Bulu Kinolau.
Name:Volcanion
Typing:View attachment 304652View attachment 304653
Stats:80-110-120-130-90-70
Abilities: Water Absorb
Explanation: There literally the word "volcano" in it's name. It also acts as a pretty good Kartana check, could boost Sun popularity (i like weather wars) and overall would be pretty good in the tier
Since there are only 11 submissions, I'll gonna vote which mon I do not want to be added.
I love Heatran, easily one of my Top 5 mons. However I don't want it to come back, for one reason: It would be the ultimate viability killer.
Okay maybe not "Killer", but it reduces the viability of many mons easily. Sure it checks Magearna & Kartana, but it reduces the viability of things like Celesteela, Clef, Pex, Mawile-M, Volcarona and some of our UBs. I subbed in Camerupt as a Mini-Heatran. It checks Magearna and the rest pretty well and top of that it boosts the viability of TR teams, since there's a new Mega aside from Megabro. Besides that, I wouldn't overload the meta with mons that check or counter Magearna and Kartana. We haven't playtested Flarenix yet and it seems as a great check, a solid counter even.
Don't get me wrong, Heatran would probably still be a great addition, but I don't want it to throw everything away, that we know about the meta.
It would be easily S- tier in the VR
As a reference here is the S and A tiers from the VR and the mons that it checks
Here is the ranking of the other mons (You don't have to do it that way)
Last but not least, I've made a Viability Ranking and a Role Compendium. I'll release them with the beginning of the new slate, incase somethings need adjustment.
I love Heatran, easily one of my Top 5 mons. However I don't want it to come back, for one reason: It would be the ultimate viability killer.
Okay maybe not "Killer", but it reduces the viability of many mons easily. Sure it checks Magearna & Kartana, but it reduces the viability of things like Celesteela, Clef, Pex, Mawile-M, Volcarona and some of our UBs. I subbed in Camerupt as a Mini-Heatran. It checks Magearna and the rest pretty well and top of that it boosts the viability of TR teams, since there's a new Mega aside from Megabro. Besides that, I wouldn't overload the meta with mons that check or counter Magearna and Kartana. We haven't playtested Flarenix yet and it seems as a great check, a solid counter even.
Don't get me wrong, Heatran would probably still be a great addition, but I don't want it to throw everything away, that we know about the meta.
It would be easily S- tier in the VR
As a reference here is the S and A tiers from the VR and the mons that it checks
Here is the ranking of the other mons (You don't have to do it that way)
- Numel Line
At first this was the only one who I picked because of its competetive use. Camerupt-M was really useful in early SM in order to check Magearna and abuse the terrain from the Tapus. With a more limited pool of mons and the dominence of Magearna, Camerupt will definetely find some use.
It would be B tier in the VR - Drilbur line
Sand needs it's best abuser and the Metagame could use another form of Hazard removal. Drill would be one of two spinners in OU (the other being Snoxin). This would also allow mons like Scizor-M, Koko (both forms) and Fini (both forms) to not run Defog and be more Utility or offensive oriented.
It would be A+ tier in the VR - Volcanion
Volcanion would be such a cool addition. It's a great check and a great abuser of Sun and Rain. Although you don't need to check Sun, because it isn't that viable. When it and Drill win, then it can also work well on Sand Teams as a Rain check and with a Sand Weather Ball, which is nice. Also it can provide Defog with its Defensive set.
It would be A- tier in the VR - Shaymin
The only defensive Grass that we have is Bulu and there is a problem with that. Those are great mons, but you have to either run Grassy Terrain on your team or Sandstorm, if you want a defensive grass. Shaymin gives us a great addition, both defensively and offensively. It can run SubSeed, Specially Offensive, Physical Offensive, Scarf with Team Support or defensive sets.
It would be B- tier in the VR - Totodile line
Feraligatr has a lot of trouble in the meta since Electric types are everywhere, but once it gets a oppunity to set-up Dragon Dance, it can break holes into the opponents team. With Sheer Force boosted attacks and no LO recoil (for the most part) it can be a great breaker on Screen Offense teams or on Rain teams (As if they haven't got many abusers already)
It would be C+ tier in the VR - Cyndaquil line
Sun teams can literally use anything. Besides that Specs Eruption is a dangerous move and it has potential to be boosted by Flash Fire. It still struggles with many mons and it would probably won't be used much, but it still blows many mons away and it's absolutely worth using, in my opinion.
It would be C- tier in the VR - Krabby line
This would be outclassed by Feraligatr, but it would still have a niche on Rain or just Balance teams. As a sheer force Water-type with 130 base attack and SD, it can easily break any hole in a team. This is basically what seperates it from Feraligatr, the immediate power that it has and a better way to boost it. (I mean you could use SD on Gatr, but you would want to use DD)
It would be C- tier in the VR - Chikorita line
Entirely outclassed by Bulu (both forms) and Shaymin (if it comes through). Bulu is one thing and as I said in my Shaymin Explanation, you maybe want to run any other Terrain or Weather. Well then you use Shaymin as your Grass. I legimently think that Meganium can potentially have a niche, but Shayming throws that idea completely away. Maybe when we have UU at some point in the future.
It would be D tier in the VR - Qwilfish
Suprise it's our little ugly fish. I just subbed in most mons for fun and I didn't really care for the Metagame. However when thinking about it, it made more sense to add mons that have a impact on the Meta. It still can be used as a Lead, since it has Spikes and T-Spikes, but There are better setters.
It would be C- tier in the VR - Horsea line
A rain abuser that we honestly don't need. There are better mons to use on a rain team like Koko (both forms), Primarina, Crawdaunt and many more. Oh, and don't forget that it is completely outclassed by Fini-K. It has better typing, Set-up moves and isn't walled by Chansey. Fini-K struggles against Bulky waters, which Kingdra can beat with Draco. Right? Well, since there is no Swampert-M, You can run GyaradosM or Aerodactyl-M to support Fini-K or use an actual Dragon type in Garchomp, which beats Pex and has SR. There would be no reason to use Kingdra.
It would be C+ tier in the VR
Last but not least, I've made a Viability Ranking and a Role Compendium. I'll release them with the beginning of the new slate, incase somethings need adjustment.
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I'm also going to say which mon i do not want to be added:
This may be a bit surprising, but i really think the meta would not beneficiate much from adding a great Rain abuser when it already has so much good mons. It also would risk to compete with Fini-K, which i personally think is more interesting. I'll also provide a proper ranking later on
This may be a bit surprising, but i really think the meta would not beneficiate much from adding a great Rain abuser when it already has so much good mons. It also would risk to compete with Fini-K, which i personally think is more interesting. I'll also provide a proper ranking later on
I don't want Heatran to be added. The whole point of this meta is to shake things up a bit. If we add it, everybody's going to be using it, and it'll be one step closer to being Gen 7 OU again. I like the idea of removing mons so those less used mons get a chance to shine.
I don't want Heatran to be added. The whole point of this meta is to shake things up a bit. If we add it, everybody's going to be using it, and it'll be one step closer to being Gen 7 OU again. I like the idea of removing mons so those less used mons get a chance to shine.
Heatran being added is actually pretty beneficial. If anything it promotes diversity in building, since it compresses so much roles within itself, allowing for teammates to do other wild shit.
Okay I don't necessarily agree that we need it but kakaks is ending the tiebreaker so we'll post the loser in a sec
Voting is closed !
The Pokemon that wasn't included is Kingdra ! That means the Numel line, Drilbur lune, Volcanion, Shaymin, the Totodile line, Cyndaquil line, Chikorita line, Heatran and Qwilfish are now in !
Here's the next slate !
You can change stat spreads, typings, abilities and moves. You can also give the regional line a brand new evolution!
Submissions will end on Friday the 15th.
The Pokemon that wasn't included is Kingdra ! That means the Numel line, Drilbur lune, Volcanion, Shaymin, the Totodile line, Cyndaquil line, Chikorita line, Heatran and Qwilfish are now in !
Here's the next slate !
Regional Variants and Evolutions for the volcano island !
Give your favorite Pokemon that aren't in the Alola Dex a new twist !You can change stat spreads, typings, abilities and moves. You can also give the regional line a brand new evolution!
Submissions will end on Friday the 15th.
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Sooooooooo,
as I promised, you get something from me and the council.
Here are the Viability Ranking, Role Compendium and some Sample Teams!
kakaks it would be nice of you if you could link them in your first post.
Other than that the new mon Flarenix, Coyotalloy and Tikilohi are implemented! You can play with them on DH or the test client.
There are still some adjustments that need to be made, but Hematite did a great job and we are truly thankful for that!
Last person to be tagged here is Ema Skye. We came to the conclusion that Flarenix is way too powerful. I DMed you and provided our suggestions. We won't change anything without your permission, but we'll do it if we can't get an answer. You have time until the closure of this current slate.
That's all folks, have a nice day and stay safe!
Cya!
as I promised, you get something from me and the council.
Here are the Viability Ranking, Role Compendium and some Sample Teams!
kakaks it would be nice of you if you could link them in your first post.
Other than that the new mon Flarenix, Coyotalloy and Tikilohi are implemented! You can play with them on DH or the test client.
There are still some adjustments that need to be made, but Hematite did a great job and we are truly thankful for that!
Last person to be tagged here is Ema Skye. We came to the conclusion that Flarenix is way too powerful. I DMed you and provided our suggestions. We won't change anything without your permission, but we'll do it if we can't get an answer. You have time until the closure of this current slate.
That's all folks, have a nice day and stay safe!
Cya!
S Tier
S+ Rank
Magearna
S Rank
Kartana
Thundigeist
S- Rank
Celesteela
Toxapex
Clefable
Heatran
Flarenix
Snoxin
Tapu Lele-Kinolau
Komodond
A Tier
A+ Rank
Lopunny-Mega
Mawile-Mega
Chansey
Tapu Fini-Kinolau
Tapu Koko
Tapu Lele
Garchomp
Tyranitar-Mega
Tapu Fini
Tapu Bulu
Pelipper
Kommo-o
A Rank
Alakazam-Mega
Blacephalon
Magnezone
Forsnaken
Tyranitar
Tapu Bulu-Kinolau
Gastrodon
Anglevolt
Coyotalloy
Lucario
A- Rank
Excadrill
Volcarona
Gyarados-Mega
Aerodactyl-Mega
Volcanion
Tikilohi
Pinsir-Mega
Zeraora
Manectric-Mega
Porygon-Z
B Tier
B+ Rank
Bisharp
Scizor-Mega
Skarmory
Hawlucha
Slowbro-Mega
Sableye-Mega
Krookodile
Plubia
B Rank
Necrozma
Tapu Koko-Kinolau
Sharpedo-Mega
B- Rank
Salamence
Gyarados
Dragonite
Garchomp-Mega
Scizor
Shaymin
Absol-Mega
Starmie
Tentacruel
Crawdaunt
Stakataka
Marowak-Alola
Camerupt-Mega
Muk-Alola
Gengar
Slowbro
C Tier
C+ Rank
Ribombee
Lycanroc-Dusk
Crobat
Feraligatr
Weavile
Buzzwole
Golem-Alola
Sylveon
Primarina
Xurkitree
Heracross-Mega
Zygarde-10%
C Rank
Golurk
Alakazam
Blissey
Houndoom-Mega
Omastar
Nihilego
Ampharos-Mega
Lanturn
Typhlosion
C- Rank
Klefki
Froslass
Banette-Mega
Mimikyu
Alomomola
Kabutops
Kingler
D Tier
Mantine
Araquanid
Milotic
Ninetales
Incineroar
Archeops
Lycanroc
Glalie-Mega
Porygon2
Flygon
Qwilfish
Lurantis
Unranked
S+ Rank
MagearnaS Rank
Kartana ThundigeistS- Rank
Celesteela Toxapex Clefable Heatran Flarenix Snoxin Tapu Lele-Kinolau KomodondA Tier
A+ Rank
Lopunny-Mega Mawile-Mega Chansey Tapu Fini-Kinolau Tapu Koko Tapu Lele Garchomp Tyranitar-Mega Tapu Fini Tapu Bulu Pelipper Kommo-oA Rank
Alakazam-Mega Blacephalon Magnezone Forsnaken Tyranitar Tapu Bulu-Kinolau Gastrodon Anglevolt Coyotalloy LucarioA- Rank
Excadrill Volcarona Gyarados-Mega Aerodactyl-Mega Volcanion Tikilohi Pinsir-Mega Zeraora Manectric-Mega Porygon-ZB Tier
B+ Rank
Bisharp Scizor-Mega Skarmory Hawlucha Slowbro-Mega Sableye-Mega Krookodile PlubiaB Rank
Necrozma Tapu Koko-Kinolau Sharpedo-MegaB- Rank
Salamence Gyarados Dragonite Garchomp-Mega Scizor Shaymin Absol-Mega Starmie Tentacruel Crawdaunt Stakataka Marowak-Alola Camerupt-Mega Muk-Alola Gengar SlowbroC Tier
C+ Rank
Ribombee Lycanroc-Dusk Crobat Feraligatr Weavile Buzzwole Golem-Alola Sylveon Primarina Xurkitree Heracross-Mega Zygarde-10%C Rank
Golurk Alakazam Blissey Houndoom-Mega Omastar Nihilego Ampharos-Mega Lanturn TyphlosionC- Rank
Klefki Froslass Banette-Mega Mimikyu Alomomola Kabutops KinglerD Tier
Mantine Araquanid Milotic Ninetales Incineroar Archeops Lycanroc Glalie-Mega Porygon2 Flygon Qwilfish LurantisUnranked
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Mega Evolutions
Utility
Entry Hazards
Stealth Rock:
Komodond-KinolauTikilohi, Coyotalloy
Spikes:
Snoxin
Toxic Spikes:
Sticky Web:
Hazard Control
Defog:
Komodond-Kinolau-Kinolau Flarenix
Rapid Spin:
Snoxin
Magic Bounce:
Spinblocker:
PlubiaThundigeistTikilohi
Defog Deterent:
Clerics and Wish
Aromatherapy & Heal Bell:
-KinolauFlarenix
Wish:
Healing Wish:
Others
Screen Setter:
Snoxin-Kinolau
Pursuit:
Offensive Roles
Wallbreakers
Physical:
AnglevoltKomodondPlubia-KinolauTikilohi, Coyotalloy, Flarenix
Special:
Plubia-Kinolau-KinolauThundigeist
Flarenix
Mixed:
Plubia-KinolauFlarenix
Choice Item Users
Choice Band:
AnglevoltPlubia-Kinolau-KinolauTikilohi, Coyotalloy, Flarenix
Choice Specs:
Plubia-Kinolau-KinolauThundigeistFlarenix
Choice Scarf:
Plubia:
Setup Sweepers
Acid Armor & Iron Defense:
SnoxinCoyotalloy-kinolau
Autonomize, Agility, Rock Polish, Shift Gear:
Coyotalloy,
Belly Drum:
Bulk Up:
-Kinolau
Calm Mind:
-Kinolau-Kinolau-Kinolau, Thundigeist
Hone Claws:
Plubia
Cosmic Power:
Cotton Guard:
Plubia
Curse:
Dragon Dance:
AnglevoltFlarenix
Nasty Plot:
Plubia
Quiver Dance:
Shell Smash:
Clangerous Soul:
Komodond
Swords Dance:
Anglevolt-KinolauTikilohi:kinger:
Z-Moves:
(Clangerous Soulblaze) (Z-Conversion) (Z-Hypnosis)
Ability Set-Up:
AnglevoltForsnakenKomodondPlubia, Snoxin, Thundigeist
Priority
Aqua Jet:
Komodond
Bullet Punch:
Coyotalloy
Extreme Speed:
Flarenix, Anglevolt
Ice Shard:
Shadow Sneak:
Vacuum Wave:
Mach Punch:
Coyotalloy
Accelerock:
Sucker Punch:
Coyotalloy
Prankster:
Defensive Roles
Walls
Physical:
ForsnakenKomodond, PlubiaSnoxin-Kinolau-KinolauTikilohi, Coyotalloy, Flarenix
Special:
KomodondSnoxin-Kinolau-KinolauTikilohi, Coyotalloy, Flarenix
Mixed:
KomodondSnoxin-KinolauTikilohi, Coyotalloy, Flarenix
Pivots
Offensive:
Tapu-bulu:-Kinolau-KinolauAnglevoltThundigeistCoyotalloy, Flarenix
Defensive:
Forsnaken, Komodond-Kinolau:-KinolauCoyotalloy, Flarenix
Trick Troom, Weather Teams...
Trick Room
Trick Room setters:
Tikilohi
Trick Room sweepers:
Komodond, ForsnakenTikilohi
Rain Teams
Rain setter:
Swift Swim users:
-Kinolau
Other abusers:
AnglevoltKomodond-Kinolau
Sun Teams
Sun setter:
Other abusers:
:
Sand Teams
Sand setter:
-Kinolau
Sand Rush users:
Other abusers:
Utility
Entry Hazards
Stealth Rock:
Komodond-KinolauTikilohi, CoyotalloySpikes:
SnoxinToxic Spikes:
Sticky Web:
Hazard Control
Defog:
Komodond-Kinolau-Kinolau FlarenixRapid Spin:
Snoxin
Magic Bounce:
Spinblocker:
PlubiaThundigeistTikilohiDefog Deterent:
Clerics and Wish
Aromatherapy & Heal Bell:
-KinolauFlarenixWish:
Healing Wish:
Others
Screen Setter:
Snoxin
-KinolauPursuit:
Offensive Roles
Wallbreakers
Physical:
Anglevolt
KomodondPlubia-KinolauTikilohi, Coyotalloy, FlarenixSpecial:
Plubia-Kinolau-KinolauThundigeistFlarenixMixed:
Plubia-KinolauFlarenixChoice Item Users
Choice Band:
Anglevolt
Plubia-Kinolau-KinolauTikilohi, Coyotalloy, FlarenixChoice Specs:
Plubia-Kinolau-KinolauThundigeistFlarenixChoice Scarf:
Plubia:Setup Sweepers
Acid Armor & Iron Defense:
Snoxin
Coyotalloy-kinolauAutonomize, Agility, Rock Polish, Shift Gear:
Coyotalloy,Belly Drum:
Bulk Up:
-KinolauCalm Mind:
-Kinolau-Kinolau-Kinolau, ThundigeistHone Claws:
Plubia
Cosmic Power:
Cotton Guard:
Plubia
Curse:
Dragon Dance:
Anglevolt
FlarenixNasty Plot:
Plubia
Quiver Dance:
Shell Smash:
Clangerous Soul:
KomodondSwords Dance:
Anglevolt
-KinolauTikilohi:kinger:Z-Moves:
(Clangerous Soulblaze) (Z-Conversion) (Z-Hypnosis)Ability Set-Up:
Anglevolt
ForsnakenKomodondPlubia, Snoxin, ThundigeistPriority
Aqua Jet:
KomodondBullet Punch:
CoyotalloyExtreme Speed:
Flarenix, AnglevoltIce Shard:
Shadow Sneak:
Vacuum Wave:
Mach Punch:
Coyotalloy
Accelerock:
Sucker Punch:
CoyotalloyPrankster:
Defensive Roles
Walls
Physical:
ForsnakenKomodond, PlubiaSnoxin-Kinolau-KinolauTikilohi, Coyotalloy, FlarenixSpecial:
KomodondSnoxin-Kinolau-KinolauTikilohi, Coyotalloy, FlarenixMixed:
KomodondSnoxin-KinolauTikilohi, Coyotalloy, FlarenixPivots
Offensive:
Tapu-bulu:-Kinolau-KinolauAnglevoltThundigeistCoyotalloy, FlarenixDefensive:
Forsnaken, Komodond-Kinolau:-KinolauCoyotalloy, FlarenixTrick Troom, Weather Teams...
Trick Room
Trick Room setters:
TikilohiTrick Room sweepers:
Komodond, ForsnakenTikilohiRain Teams
Rain setter:
Swift Swim users:
-KinolauOther abusers:
Anglevolt
Komodond-KinolauSun Teams
Sun setter:
Other abusers:
:Sand Teams
Sand setter:
-KinolauSand Rush users:
Other abusers:
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