Pet Mod DLCmons v3: returns (Slate 7: Mega Discoveries)

[DrPumpkinz]

Cryogonal
Regigigas
Seviper and Zangoose
Lapras
Wigglytuff

 

[Lysion]

1st Vote - Zangoose + Seviper by DrPumpkinz
2nd Vote - Lapras by Lysion (SV)
3rd Vote - Cryogonal by BlueRay
4th Vote - Regigigas by DrPumpkinz
5th Vote - Wigglytuff by Samtendo

Overall a lot of really good subs this time around.

 

[BlueRay]

1st Vote - Regigigas by DrPumpkinz
2nd Vote - Cryogonal by BlueRay, sv
3rd Vote - Hariyama by Lysion
4th Vote - Zangoose + Seviper by DrPumpkinz
5th Vote - Tyrantrum + Aurorus by Samtendo

 

[Samtendo09]

1st Vote - Zangoose + Seviper by DrPumpkinz
2nd Vote - Wigglytuff by Samtendo (SV)
3rd Vote - Cryogonal by BlueRay
4th Vote - Lapras by Lysion
5th Vote - Wormadam-Sandy by PalpitoadChamp

If we have only one vote post or none after this post, I’ll end the voting phase pre-emptively.

 

[Samtendo09]

DrPumpkinz's Zangoose & Seviper 5 + 3 + 5 + 2 + 5 = 20 1st
PalpitoadChamp's Crobat 4
PalpitoadChamp's Wormadam-Sandy 3 + 1 = 4
Naronex's Dodrio 2
BluRay's Cryogonal 1 + 5 + 3 + 4 + 3 = 16 2nd
DrPumpkinz’ Regigigas 4 + 2 + 5 = 11 3rd
Lysion’s Lapras 2 + 4 + 2 = 8 4th
Samtendo09’s Wigglytuff 1 + 1 + 4 + 6 5th
5th Vote - Tyrantrum + Aurorus by Samtendo 1

Here are our winners!

Mega Zangoose Type: Normal / Fighting Ability: Tinted Lens Stats: HP: 73Att: 175 (+60)Def: 75 (+15)SpA: 70 (+10)SpD: 75 (+15)Spe: 90Height: 5'02" Weight: 62.7 kg

Mega Seviper Type: Poison / Ghost Ability: Terrorize (Ghost-ize) Stats: HP: 73Att: 130 (+30)Def: 80 (+20)SpA: 130 (+30)SpD: 80 (+20)Spe: 65Height: 13'04" Weight: 66.6 kg

A pair of megas I'm repurposing from M4A. Zangoose's lenses become rose-tinted in the sense that it's seeing red and will Close Combat the shit out of Poison-types, while Seviper denies it the satisfaction by becoming immune and also dying I guess.

In terms of gameplay, Mega Zangoose loses a bit of power compared to its base form in exchange for greatly improved longevity. It's still frail, but at least now it resists Stealth Rock and isn't killing itself with Toxic Orb. It's also got an extra moveslot to play with, since instead of running Facade for neutral STAB and Close Combat for anti-Steel coverage, it can just run Close Combat and cover both. Meanwhile, Seviper can take on the role of a physical attacker with Swords Dance and Frustration, or it can go special with Wring Out (my beloved). Remember, we're in gen 6, so this style of ability still gives a 30% damage boost.

Mega Cryogonal

Name: Cryogonal

Ability: Technician
Type: Ice / Steel

Stats:
HP: 70
Attack: 55
Defense: 55
Special Attack: 125
Special Defense: 145
Speed: 135
BST: 585

Height: 1.1 m
Weight: 184.0 kg
Gender Ratio: -

Description:
Competitive
- As the fastest Ice Pkm in the tier, Mega Cryogonal can provide powerful speed control in Icy Wind. If you need more fire power, there's always Frost Breath. These two moves are boosted by Technician, and so are moves like Hidden Power, Water Pulse or Ancient Power. Which can be very useful in Singles to get past would-be checks, such as Ferrothorn or Volcanion.
- While Mega Cryogonal already naturally learns Flash Cannon, I imagine the secondary typing is used more defensively. First, to mitigate the Stealth Rock weakness. Secondly, in VGC, Mega Cryogonal can better resist attacks from Mega Gardevoir, Mega Kangashkan (so long as you avoid Power-Up Punch), and Mega Salamence, among others.
- Bulk is sufficient enough to comfortably tank Sucker Punch from Mega Kangashkan. Funnily enough, if Rain is up, Mega Cryogonal can even survive Heat Wave from Mega Charizard Y in VGC.
- With barely any viable Ice Pkm in Kalos VGC, Mega Cryogonal stands out with its mix of utility (like speed control), offense, and useful resistance profile. Singles appreciate a new viable Rapid Spin user that is immune to Poison and exerts good offensive pressure.

Combee was too powerful so here's Regigigas instead


Mega Regigigas
Type: Normal
Ability: Now or Never (if the user's trainer has more than one Pokemon remaining, Attack and Speed are halved)
Stats:

HP: 110​

Att: 210 (+50)​

Def: 120 (+10)​

SpA: 80​

SpD: 120 (+10)​

Spe: 130 (+30)​

Height: 15'07"
Weight: 840.0 kg

Ever the ADHD icon, Regigigas spurs into action when a deadline approaches.

Name: Lapras-Mega
Type: Water/Ice
Abilities: Refrigerate
New stats:
HP: 130
Attack: 85 -> 120 (+35)
Defense: 80 -> 95 (+15)
Special Attack: 85 -> 105 (+20)
Special Defense: 95 -> 105 (+10)
Speed: 60 -> 80 (+20)
(535 BST => 635 BST)
New moves: None
Description:
Resub from M4A, I think it's a pretty cool mon here.
Back in DPP UU, Lapras had the good ol' niche of being a bulky Water. But! it had another surprising niche for only one generation: being a Dragon Dancer. It has good Atk, respectable Speed and nice bulk going for it, as well as Water + Ice being dangerous and near perfect coverage (you know, Iron Bundle...) And its only physical Ice move was Avalanche, so kinda bad for DD sets, so it just used Waterfall + Return. Now, it finally has a good physical Ice STAB, but it's Return, so it's basically a nice callack to this surprising niche.
Fun fact! It also has Vocal Strain! So you can even run a special set running Vocal Strain, Surf and Freeze-Dry! Overall a very, very good mon.
And it also has more bulk, and Cleansing Wave! You can also run it as a defensive Pokemon!

Name: Mega Wigglytuff (Wigglytuffite)
Type: Electric / Fairy
Abilities: Fur Coat
New Stats:
HP: 140
Attack: 60 -> 60 (+0)
Defense: 45 -> 55 (+10)
Special Attack: 85 -> 175 (+90)
Special Defense: 50 -> 70 (+20)
Speed: 45 -> 25 (-20)
(435 BST => 535 BST)
New Moves: Moonblast
Description: With the power of Mega Evolution, Wigglytuff’s soft fur extends so much that no only it softens physical blows, but it helps it conduct electricity by inflating and rubbing it’s cheeks. Once inflating like a hot air balloon, it can unleash a powerful jolt of electricity from all around it’s body.
Competitive Uses: Even with the newly gained Fairy-type, Wigglytuff’s low BST by Stone Evolution standards and awkward stat distribution left it in the dust competitively. Mega Wigglytuff allows it to finally make the most of it’s Special learnset and status moves, but also provide a powerful Electric-type wallbreaker with it’s 175 Special Attack, and Fur Coat finally allows it to make use of it’s high base HP. It’s bottom Speed means it’ll almost always move last in Singles, but can make for a terrifying Trick Room attacker in VGC.

You can discuss our five winners while we think about our tournament before continuing.

 

[Lysion]

My thoughts on the winners:

A nuke that just kills shit. After a Swords Dance I don't see a lot of stuff be willing to switch into it, we do have a lot of Fairies in the tier which makes Tinted Lens especially cool, also makes it not prediction reliant into Slowbro. Not like we have a lot of defensive Ghosts anyway so all of them die to a Knock Off, bar maybe the new Seviper-Mega (frail bulk I wouldn't count on it).

Speaking of the Devil, I think Seviper is mostly gonna be physical (why would you run it over Gengar), and Coil will be super good for that. Gen 6 -ate also makes its Return 132.6 BP, giving it a great, great niche. Wring Out is a niche option but I wouldn't count on it tbh, I'd rather run Coil + Return.

Sub thought for VGC, but I honestly think it's gonna be a really good one in Singles. 135 Speed is a lot, especially with that special bulk, and Frost Breath is really cool. I don't think it's gonna be OU but I can be wrong, very good sub as well.

Really funny sub, and makes Regigigas better, but I don't see it being OU. It's gonna be niche at best, as it has no real utility outside of hitting hard and being kind of a Kingambit but even more extreme. Maybe I'm too harsh on it because 110/120/120 bulk allows it to take a hit or two but you shouldn't be getting Regigigas out before it's your last mon anyway. Still gonna have a niche in HO I think, because with its wide movepool you can easily get really cooked if all your faster mons died.

My sub. Originally subbed in M4A, it got A LOT of tools here. I originally subbed it as a Dragon Dancer with a strong Ice STAB, and as DrPumpkinz mentionned, Gen 6 -ate is x1.3. But it's originally a defensive Pokémon in most metagames, and Cleansing Wave and Vocal Strain allow it to be kind of a Altaria-Mega sidegrade? Either DD or defensive? You need solid hazard removal but it can be a cool wall.

What if Ampharos-Mega had 2 good stats instead of one, and was a Fairy. I think it's gonna be a cool mon, able to either go all out with a great coverage (BoltBeam) or be a cool Wish mon.

 

[Samtendo09]

While the other council members test out the metagame (I was too busy with other things), Lysion have a more concrete say about the metagame so far;

• Sun is easily the best weather in the metagame at the moment. Part of the reason is due to Glimmaltis feeling like a splashable S-tier mon that, unlike Cherrim, greatly benefits from Flower Gift making it a deadly physical attacker under the Sun.
• Glimmaltis itself, as stated, looks like a splashable S-tier mon with viability in sun and having pre-Gen 8 Grassy Terrain in the form of Seed Sower, which grants 50% more power to it’s Grass-type moves that stacks with STAB. It makes it’s Giga Drain much deadlier and allows it to recover even more when used outside of sun teams.
• We ended up having a bit too many bulky Waters that could struggle against Glimmaltis as a result. I believe that either Hugfish, Mega Floatzel or both may have to be reevaluated more than Alomomola, as it’s clear thay the former two are not built with Glimmaltis in mind in hindsight.
• The metagame can be fun to build and play with, as the metagame is not so drastically different from vanilla XY and no new threats managed to be overbearing to the point immediate actions are needed.

We also added a basic Viability Ranking (High, Middle, Low) at the third post, two posts after the OP, giving you an idea what’s viable and what’s more niche.

If you want to try it yourself, please join our Discord via the OP and request one in the matchmaking channel.