NOC Electoral Mafia - Game thread

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i would like to vote within the protectives to figure out what is going on. Peum with all due respect, I don't think we can mechsolve this knot as you suggested earlier, and everyone's claim is so simple to the point where I doubt any of them will slip up
 
Peum said:
I wont make a sheet because I dont know how legal that is but

Playerlist:
1. AngryPidgeon - Makes 2 people not be able to kill eachother each night, also has something not disclosed
2. Miyami~~~ - OmniDoc that makes their target not able to vote
3. Dead by Daylight - No Claim
4. pulsar512b - Doctor that negates votes on someone the next day
7. liquidrelief - No Claim
8. ShyPebble - Something involving fractions on votes
9. AirC - Day Town Protective
10. a fairy - No Claim
11. Tsuki - Something involving voting someone that doesnt get voted out that night, gets stronger each day
12. jalmont - No Claim
13. realiti - No Claim
14. Peum - Protective with a mechanic to gain double vote

If im missing out on anything please tell me
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AirC

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jalmont said:
actually I was mostly interested in you expanding on voting within the 4 protectives
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you asked me to claim, so I did

if we vote within the 4 protectives, I'm pretty sure there's at least 1 scum. the setup would never allow for 4 protectives when most of them can't do anything about the vote, and in a CS, there's incentive for scum who are constantly under threat to claim a highly contested role and push townies while hiding behind the dichotomy
 
jalmont said:
we can probably pretty safely add AIRC and AF to the town pile for now. this makes DBD look worse and whoever thought AIRC was mafia which as far as I can tell is nobody.

tsuki and Larry lose a lot of credibility by being around and not doing anything to contribute to figuring out who to vote which particularly hurts tsuki. in general I don't think I can drop them out of the town pool just yet

my friend liquid relief looked at their role pm and dipped so I guess they are probably mafia.

we know it's in AP's scum range to have fake arguments with teammates which Larry/AP or AP/realiti could feasibly be. something to keep in mind

so we have airc/miyami/af//peum///tsuki/pulsar//realiti + jalmont

which leaves AP/larry/dbd/shyp and I am still not convinced SHYP is any more mafia than the tsuki/pulsar/realiti grouping. then if you believe AP/larry is tvs then we have 2 mafia in the towns which is interesting. that would suggest at least one of the claimers is bad, maybe pulsar, maybe AF or airc defended carrotman for cred although I felt airc actually had valid reasoning for defending carrotman where AF was just suddenly like "yeah everyone carrot is good." I dunno, let's not overthink right now.

I feel like the three people I'm interested in voting today are AP, dbd, and larry. we know that larry was overwhelmed by this game, is that a good explanation for the end of day not doing anything? I think reality's #943 to AP is a good point. AP's vibes low key feel kind off just not as assertive as I would expect + the role claim has nothing to do with voting which makes me uneasy. but surely mafia would realize that in coming up with fakes? but not necessarily right?

back to my above point, subbing in, looking at role pm, and not posting leans mafia more than not I feel. if that means AP town then I suppose you really have to look back the many people saying AP mafia. but we'll get there later. maybe AP is just the best vote here, I'm not sure. but who exactly has been defending AP?
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just thinking about this again

working off people who claimed their role early are most likely town we have

tsuki/peum for doing so unprompted, Miyami with the caveat of it being under duress.

Peum - town
tsuki - claim means probably town especially given this is their first mafia game HOWEVER if they've played mafia elsewhere could see this being a mafia play but unlikely
Airc - wack role and pro-carrot probably town HOWEVER there are some worlds in which this is a mafia day guard to block carrotman's role
pulsar - forgetting to use action is very much in pulsar's town range plus just in general being all over the place and not really doing anything
AP - another bizarre role so probably town

Miyami - I'm fine thinking town due to proactive play plus reasonable claim however there are some doubts.
realiti - proactive play but if I think AP is town then I have to move realiti down somewhat
shy pebble - overall pretty active and crumbed their role which I think breaks somewhat town

AF - I moved AF down upon reflecting yesterday as the carrotman defense did somewhat come out of nowhere

dbd - the only claim with no link to a vote role however this is a coin toss role. depends on if you think the town as constructed is too strong or not. almost certainly is lying about claim in some sense as peum has picked up on
larry/LR - there's really no reason to believe they are town but there's nothing definitive to say they are mafia either. I still think the sub generally breaks town as I said before.

wow there's really 4 mafia lol I'm so bad.

I dunno man what is scum AP trying to accomplish here pushing realiti and me to some extent? isn't it best to just bus or go somewhere else or sound the alarms on say pulsar? I suppose this game is odd because there's no true AFK for mafia to push. are we really blocking night kills? so many mysteries
 
Dead by Daylight said:
you asked me to claim, so I did

if we vote within the 4 protectives, I'm pretty sure there's at least 1 scum. the setup would never allow for 4 protectives when most of them can't do anything about the vote, and in a CS, there's incentive for scum who are constantly under threat to claim a highly contested role and push townies while hiding behind the dichotomy
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they can do stuff about the vote, I feel like we have rehashed this a couple times. should I relink perm's role list post for you? I understand you want to vote within the 4 perspectives, I want to know who and if possible why, or are you saying we should just flip some coins because that's fine by me too!

hm. although I guess AirC can't or maybe they can and just didn't claim it which seems possible. that would lend credence to my theory about mafia day bg to stop our vig.
 
liquidrelief said:
this light yagami wannabe selfish quote

and this ambiguity should tell you everything you need to know about AP
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if I told you it's hard for me to believe that you came into this game, didn't know what AP stood for, and then decided that AP is who we need to vote off today, how would you feel?

how much of the game have you read through? what % do you feel like you understand? personally I'm at like 85% read, 60% comprehension. I may be being harsh on myself
 
jalmont said:
This was really the only thought you had when you came in here to make a post? When we are hours away from deadline? Why don't you have a voting related aspect to your role?
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I do have a voting aspect related to my role? Also I don't see how the post you linked when answer my question to Tsuki does anything to answer my question xd
 
I'm not going to 100% claim what my role does because I'm pretty sure that would end up benefitting scum more than it would benefit to town, we still have a couple hours until deadline, and I already stated right now AP is the only person that's currently being voted for that I would vote for
 
jalmont said:
they can do stuff about the vote, I feel like we have rehashed this a couple times. should I relink perm's role list post for you? I understand you want to vote within the 4 perspectives, I want to know who and if possible why, or are you saying we should just flip some coins because that's fine by me too!

hm. although I guess AirC can't or maybe they can and just didn't claim it which seems possible. that would lend credence to my theory about mafia day bg to stop our vig.
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neither AP or AirC have claimed to be able to affect the vote as of Peum’s post, so I’m willing to vote one of them out
 
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