NOC Electoral Mafia - Game thread

ShyPebble said:
AirC claimed at a time when he could have synergy with another role. If he was mafia he'd have already figured out a way to work together with his own team and wouldn't have been nearly as excited as he sounded yesterday finding Carrotman to work with.
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jalmont said:
well you should just vote me out then if you think I’m bussing my teammate here that would probably save the town a lot of time

I’m not really sure what you expect me to do when the deadline is 5am my time, and I was around until about two hours prior when really there was no expectation that it was going to be a bad vote. You on the other hand were literally around to change the vote if you didn’t like it so
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Yes I could have tied the vote on DBD? You had 2 votes yesterday. I understand your timezone sucks for the deadline but it was convienient for you to votepark carrot. And the way you tried to preemptively excuse it (and also your statement about phoopes yesterday) makes me think you are spending more time thinking about how your play is perceived than playing to any town.
 
ShyPebble said:
Ah, and for the second half for Pulsar and AirC. AirC claimed at a time when he could have synergy with another role. If he was mafia he'd have already figured out a way to work together with his own team and wouldn't have been nearly as excited as he sounded yesterday finding Carrotman to work with. Added to the softing on D1 to share information on how the maf kill could potentially work based off information found his role. This was also shared at a relevant time when everyone else was discussing it.
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What are your thoughts on Peum again? Sorry phoneposting.
 
AirC said:
Actually hold on, are we really not going to talk about what happened with the carrotman vote? Peum is talking about punishing bad town plays and then goes with it like nothing happens? Don't tell me whatever realiti did was a great play for town
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I think Jalmont / realiti both coordinated that. Theyve been mostly avoiding each other in thread and the way they ultimately aligned on Carrot just feels like they squeezed him out. Jalmont makes the wagon then on a newer player, parks his vote, and then Realiti susses him EoD and last minute votes. Could be maf with DBD in that wagonomics also.
 
realiti said:
had a bizarre claim (that would have made more sense if he told the truth). always hate to vote out a new player but thats how the cookie crumbles...
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Would it have? I think the only thing about his claim that seemed off to me was saying hes an "investigator" or w/e he said because that's a vague term but its not too unusual for cross site culture or derptown to say something like that. Right obviously he made it up in this case but I dont think he claimed something inherently way less believable than his actual role.
 
realiti said:
after reading liquidrelief's ISO, it makes me think that the AP vs Larry is a coordinated bus and liquidrelief voted AP because it was already planned in scumchat. there's no context behind the vote whatsoever
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I mean you probably did tell him to vote me in scumchat. Its insane that you are incapable of voting him despite this, as you pointed out, absurd entrance.
 
Id really prefer if we voted me or Realiti today. I understand Larry is a weird hot potato and hes maf for sure, but realiti is pulling off blatant scum maneuvers. At least Larrys scum play is 1 dimensional, and the tunnel hes doing on me collapses with a Realiti scumflip so thats how I see it. If DBD is maf then its with Realiti.

By the way the reason I targeted Miyami/Realiti- i think its likely for maf to want to kill a doc claim. Regardless of whether or not a maf is one of the doc claims, the protective roles are a liability for maf because of CC reasons and also NKs. If one of the docs flips maf, that would tend to obvtown the others. So I figured there was a chance Realiti would try to kill one of miyami peum pulsar and tbh miyami is the most vocal of those players right now imo so if I were maf (obviously context of knowing partners aside) Id consider killing Miyami (or one of the other 2).

I think there is a reasonable chance that miyami was killed last night. Could be me confirmation biasing about lack of kill amd multiple claims of attempting to protect her but thats what Id say is most likely for lack of night kill. I guess maybe maf didnt kill twice in a row but idk how that works or is balanced.
 
By the way if I do get voted out today here is whatll happen:

Jalmont: oh no, if Id been online I would have prevented AP from death! I knew he was town!
Realiti: umm actually maybe Liquid isnt scum, I need to reevaluate my entire readslist <votes miyami>
Liquid: ummm sure thing boss!, <votes miyami>
 
AngryPidgeon said:
Yes I could have tied the vote on DBD? You had 2 votes yesterday. I understand your timezone sucks for the deadline but it was convienient for you to votepark carrot. And the way you tried to preemptively excuse it (and also your statement about phoopes yesterday) makes me think you are spending more time thinking about how your play is perceived than playing to any town.
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So what, is your theory that I left my vote on carrotman, who basically no one had seriously pressured at that point in the game so that my scum buddies Peum and Dbd and Realiti could come through in the clutch and get a misvkte off. You should’ve voted DBD then if that’s what you thought

An excuse can be reality, I can’t make 5am deadlines and I have to vote somewhere. I am genuinely sorry I can’t make 5am deadlines because I do want to try and win.

That said I can start trolling again to alleviate your fears if you’d like.
 
AngryPidgeon said:
By the way if I do get voted out today here is whatll happen:

Jalmont: oh no, if Id been online I would have prevented AP from death! I knew he was town!
Realiti: umm actually maybe Liquid isnt scum, I need to reevaluate my entire readslist <votes miyami>
Liquid: ummm sure thing boss!, <votes miyami>
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Are you okay? I’m not even voting you. In fact I said in a very recent post that I’m not interested in voting you for now
 
AngryPidgeon said:
Would it have? I think the only thing about his claim that seemed off to me was saying hes an "investigator" or w/e he said because that's a vague term but its not too unusual for cross site culture or derptown to say something like that. Right obviously he made it up in this case but I dont think he claimed something inherently way less believable than his actual role.
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his claim was that he could inspect someone OFF his wagon after receiving 1/4 votes which doesnt make sense intuitively, it would make more sense to inspect someone on your wagon
AngryPidgeon said:
I mean you probably did tell him to vote me in scumchat. Its insane that you are incapable of voting him despite this, as you pointed out, absurd entrance.
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you can vote him for me!
 
AngryPidgeon said:
Id really prefer if we voted me or Realiti today. I understand Larry is a weird hot potato and hes maf for sure, but realiti is pulling off blatant scum maneuvers. At least Larrys scum play is 1 dimensional, and the tunnel hes doing on me collapses with a Realiti scumflip so thats how I see it. If DBD is maf then its with Realiti.

By the way the reason I targeted Miyami/Realiti- i think its likely for maf to want to kill a doc claim. Regardless of whether or not a maf is one of the doc claims, the protective roles are a liability for maf because of CC reasons and also NKs. If one of the docs flips maf, that would tend to obvtown the others. So I figured there was a chance Realiti would try to kill one of miyami peum pulsar and tbh miyami is the most vocal of those players right now imo so if I were maf (obviously context of knowing partners aside) Id consider killing Miyami (or one of the other 2).

I think there is a reasonable chance that miyami was killed last night. Could be me confirmation biasing about lack of kill amd multiple claims of attempting to protect her but thats what Id say is most likely for lack of night kill. I guess maybe maf didnt kill twice in a row but idk how that works or is balanced.
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this is probably one of AP's townier posts because scum!AP knows theres a real chance of losing a 1v1 on me so caling for himself to get voted off is strange knowing im town. still scumread him though

can someone give me a case on dbd aside from being the CW? hes not very proactive and his d3 is nonexistent which is sus but I thought he was quite reasonable in d2 with good points
 
realiti said:
do you think AP is town with how hes forcing bizarre narratives throughout the game, im notbsure why you prefer a dbd vote. voting based off of cartotman's eod decisions isnt really that useful imo
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I don’t think he’s been too unreasonable but at least without reading they haven’t done much to progress the game beyond tunneling you and Larry I feel.

Carrotman is town so I have to trust their reads over yours or mine for that matter.

I think AP’a claim is more likely to be town than not. I don’t think AP is making up that role and I don’t think that’s a role the mafia is going to get because it would be useless.
 
jalmont said:
I don’t think he’s been too unreasonable but at least without reading they haven’t done much to progress the game beyond tunneling you and Larry I feel.

Carrotman is town so I have to trust their reads over yours or mine for that matter.

I think AP’a claim is more likely to be town than not. I don’t think AP is making up that role and I don’t think that’s a role the mafia is going to get because it would be useless.
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keep in mind the setup has a fruit vendor and 4 claimed protectives. i could see mafia getting a role with very conditional utility
 
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