NOC eli loves matrices game thread [Game Over, Town Win!]

OM HydrogenHydreigon and also Laurel
I'm interested in who you think the last scum is
Celever who do you think is the least likely?

The way I see it: after yesterday, it's going to be we win today, or else Celever dies tonight and then it's the three we don't vote off today (probably me and 2 of OM/HH/Laurel). I'd like to set this up to maximize our chances of getting it right overall.
 
Aura Guardian said:
Yeah, that's especially why I said "all" of them. Wondering if Laurel is the one I should look at first.
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I definitely think Laurel is worth inspecting but they are largely NAI in their own posting, and the only relevant connection that I can recall is Caff townread them early on for pretty much no reason. That can be an angle worth entertaining, but it can also be not worth entertaining at all.
 
It's certainly angleshooty but I do think TBZ N1 kill only makes sense from OM (or, previously, realiti) because they have EiMM history together. I don't think Laurel plays much EiMM but does know of the community in general and has friends within it through Survivor and other routes, it might be enough to kill TBZ N1 but arguably not really.
 
Laurel... 3 pages of search results.
Day 1: Immediately votes Psy, NAI. Responds to the 5 questions post. Self-votes and messes around until after DL when CaffeineBoost is voted out. Implies Psy thinks Vizh is scum, shades LS and me as well (says LS seems to have slipped, thinks I'm trying not to be scumread). Post 357 seems interesting, on page 15. Says we could potentially have no info roles. A1 and C2 both do that... but could be mafia knowing we were in Column B, the game where most roles are info and trying to deflect suspicion from there?
Day 2: Apologizes for not being online, says he would have voted Caff, later distances himself by saying Caff would have bussed him. Excuses some sus on OM, asking us if he was on at deadline. A bit of antagonism towards Psy. Says we can vote him and he doesn't care (was that directed at LS? Page 62 and pages before). End of page 71, asks Celever about Psy+realiti thoughts/possibility. Then page 75, defends Schia to Vizh.
Day 3: Hops on the LS vote, but after hammer.
Day 4: Joins me in some confusion on the hypoclaim thing and voting Schia until the he's-clean claim, we all know the one. Gives town moral support with the two clears?

On a scale of 0 = Flipped scum, 1 = Redcheck claim, 9 = Greencheck claim or backed-up PR claim, 10 = Flipped town... I'd rate him a 6 maybe? Neutral/Town.
 
OM
Day 1: Early joking around. Calls out readwalls due to jumping on a trend => faking content.
Day 2: Supports Celever. Seems to be on the then-derailed LS wagon, but not looking as pretty as Laurel's been getting away with.
Day 3: asks LS for a roleclaim, if she has one. Very little done
Day 4: Nada.

Like, Laurel had some concerning things, might have no info, the psy/realiti thoughts, excusing sus on OM, and saying he might have swapped to Caff. But this... Lurking Wolf? I'm considering that Laurel is probably just wrong+pretty townie.

Bumping Laurel up to maybe 6.5 town, and OM is 4-4.5 (leaning scum)

OM would you like to defend yourself?
 
HydrogenHydreigon:
Day 1: Mostly joking around. Banters with Schia re: saying posts are awkward. Does not vote.
Day 2: Gives this list for who should go: " Ls > schia/vizh > the other of schia/vizh > psy " FWIW, we voted out two of them with 50% accuracy, and another 2 were nightkilled, one certainly clear beforehand. Townleans the entire Caffeine votewagon. Gives a vibes list, 2/4 good are flipped good (and other two are me and Celever), idk vibes are 1 scum, 1 good, as well as Laurel and OM, bad vibes are now both townflipped. Elaborates on vibes on request; didn't see anything glaring about the read reasoning. Suggests voting Schia or realiti. Says not Psy/Celever/realiti (flipping on realiti). Also excuses OM re: is just hosting EiMM. Minecraft banter about the iron farm. Asks M24 for elaboration on Vizh vote. Basically, seriously considers joininig the Vizh vote, says he doesn't like either full wagon: Psy or LS. Then jumps on the Vizh wagon, helping form it sort of.
Day 3: Supports Schia's even-tracker claim, though missed that I wanted an outright statement from the horse's mouth. Suggests the PRs claim, votes Schia at first. Is then persuaded to join the LS wagon, on Schia's claim.

Just noticed that Laurel cast a vote a couple hours after hammer, and after someone else said it was hammer.

Day 4: Spends a bit figuring out what's going on, then hammers realiti.
Day 5: Customary "gm" post.

... He was a driver for the Vizh wagon, and didn't go after LS until the Schia claim. I'd rate HH as 7-7.5 town. And that thing I noticed about Laurel? Yeah, bumping him back down to 6.

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So, I sus OM the most. BUT, he could just be inactive town due to distractions. But in that case... can we trust him to vote next day? That is, the chance he's mafia or is town who would fail to vote in time greater than the chance he's town and would vote in time?

... I'm not sure there is a good answer. Idling is sub-optimal, but if we're wrong about him, then we're down to a relatively small chance.
 
Anyways like

Realiti was a bad vote and I'd probs say hh is meh but I dislike their hammer yesterday despite them voting correctly on vizh

Laurel probs best vote in poe? Voted wrong and I haven't been around etc

I'm not sure why AG is locktown though Celever
 
Celever said:
It's certainly angleshooty but I do think TBZ N1 kill only makes sense from OM (or, previously, realiti) because they have EiMM history together. I don't think Laurel plays much EiMM but does know of the community in general and has friends within it through Survivor and other routes, it might be enough to kill TBZ N1 but arguably not really.
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Angleshoot denied this is not bigvivor
 
OM said:
Anyways like

Realiti was a bad vote and I'd probs say hh is meh but I dislike their hammer yesterday despite them voting correctly on vizh

Laurel probs best vote in poe? Voted wrong and I haven't been around etc

I'm not sure why AG is locktown though Celever
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AG's locktown because he has immaculate vibes, and also was the deciding vote on Caff D1. Like I was the actual deciding vote on Caff D1 but if AG doesn't vote Caff I prob don't either, and if he voted for you over Caff D1 then me voting for Caff doesn't matter. The only way AG isn't locktown is if you're the final maf, and if you're the final maf AG is town, so the circular logic works out to him being town either way.
 
Celever said:
AG's locktown because he has immaculate vibes, and also was the deciding vote on Caff D1. Like I was the actual deciding vote on Caff D1 but if AG doesn't vote Caff I prob don't either, and if he voted for you over Caff D1 then me voting for Caff doesn't matter. The only way AG isn't locktown is if you're the final maf, and if you're the final maf AG is town, so the circular logic works out to him being town either way.
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Kk ty, wasn't sure bc dead hosting eimm game lol
 
Aura Guardian said:
Wish I knew. I was offline for a while and only able to check sporadically; hammers happened before I could realize we were close and then ask people not to so that we could talk and let realiti defend himself.
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FMPOV the hammer was fine because realiti literally said in-thread that he had no interest in defending himself lol. It may have not been the best play but if realiti lost all interest in the game then he would have been misvoted at some point.
 
Celever said:
FMPOV the hammer was fine because realiti literally said in-thread that he had no interest in defending himself lol. It may have not been the best play but if realiti lost all interest in the game then he would have been misvoted at some point.
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No this is bad play lol

Especially when a good quarter of the game hasn't even shown up yet
 
OM said:
No this is bad play lol

Especially when a good quarter of the game hasn't even shown up yet
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Like at the very least we should have time/space for everyone to work together here idk the vote/hammer itself felt like such a huge misplaced when realiti could have been easily alignment solved

I won't be like obv town or w/e bc my literal only reads from this point was you town/ls last wolf and I've been more Negtown than anything but was still very frustrating to run into schedule wise
 
OM said:
No this is bad play lol

Especially when a good quarter of the game hasn't even shown up yet
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Yeah I mean this is more apparent now that you're here and posting, TBH I didn't expect things to change to such an extent where one of the somewhat inactive PoE is here doing their thing which is assumptive on my part :zonger:
OM said:
HydrogenHydreigon why did you hammer realiti lmao
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Like FWIW the answer to this is I literally told him to lol I'm down to accept the responsibility for this.
 
I got hardcore unmotivated with this game in general and I will apologise for my part in derailing that and advocating hammers, it's not totally NAI for Hydro to ask if he should hammer and do it when I tell him to though and he did hammer both of the last two days IIRC lol. The Salamence day I would say is absolutely hammer-worthy because they were literally """""redchecked""""" though.
 
Celever said:
Yeah I mean this is more apparent now that you're here and posting, TBH I didn't expect things to change to such an extent where one of the somewhat inactive PoE is here doing their thing which is assumptive on my part :zonger:

Like FWIW the answer to this is I literally told him to lol I'm down to accept the responsibility for this.
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Aura Guardian

I think I'm pretty out of line w being last wolf regardless just context wise of d1 vote (gm it's me major cw)

Your case seems to look pretty top top w/o taking into account whether I am playing for a wincon or anything else really, and it's like...

There's especially no way for me to win a game as last wolf w/o deepwolfing in some capacity and doing so as lurking wolf is deadass impossible.

Idk I think me in poe is fair I just think it's wrong gn

I'd probs do Laurel > HH atm
 
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