Donphan's prowess as a spinner was always overrated. It's completely ruined by Toxic Spikes. Not really surprised to see it drop.
Nice to see more Mamo and Magius love <3
Nice to see more Mamo and Magius love <3
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Considering the fact that it's the only spinner capable of beating every single anti-spinner in OU or lower (with a Choice Band), I'd say it's not THAT over-rated.
January Most popular leads: 96. Moltres (377 leads)
February Most popular leads: 51. Moltres (1066 usages)
January Unweighted usage: 118. Moltres (1619 usages)
February Unweighted usage: 108. Moltres (2076 usages)
January Weighted usage: 112. Moltres (2055555 points)
February Weighted usage: 98. Moltres (2618801 points)
Moltres is rising everywhere. I am immensely proud :) I guess my efforts to get people to use it paid off.
February Most popular leads: 51. Moltres (1066 usages)
January Unweighted usage: 118. Moltres (1619 usages)
February Unweighted usage: 108. Moltres (2076 usages)
January Weighted usage: 112. Moltres (2055555 points)
February Weighted usage: 98. Moltres (2618801 points)
Moltres is rising everywhere. I am immensely proud :) I guess my efforts to get people to use it paid off.
Brick Break doesnt do much and it can use life orb or burn it anyways Magikarp got more usage than Arbok ;_;
Nice to see Milotic and Zapdos going up - They're awesome and soooo difficult to take down.
Donphan falling is sad, It's a good poke and awesome spinner with some support...
Gengar passing Gyara on most comum leads was predictable... the funny thing is that the most common lead now is weak to Pursuit =P
But he passing Blissey on usage suprised me.
Donphan falling is sad, It's a good poke and awesome spinner with some support...
Gengar passing Gyara on most comum leads was predictable... the funny thing is that the most common lead now is weak to Pursuit =P
But he passing Blissey on usage suprised me.
Which means leads running Pursuit will jump in usage quite a bit.
I know Gengar is awesome, but isn't using something that is weak to dark as a lead one of the seven deadly sins of competitive battling (due to Weavile's pursuit)? Do people use a scarf or do people just take their chances with starting out 5-6 if Weavile with a life orb or choice band comes in?
Often times the game of pokemon is much like economics in that there is a lot of weighing between benefits and losses. Ussually the benefits are much higher than the losses when starting off with gengar. HP ice kills salamance, thunderbolt kills gyarados, and yes hypnosis puts the rest to sleep. Weavile may kill gengar but weavile isn't the most common lead out there. Like i said before the benefits exceed the cost.
Makes sense, in that case i guess it would be fair to assume a rise in pursuit users (Weavile) as leads to counter the increase in Gengar leads.
If I may:
January
#135 Nidoking (1452627 points)
February
# 92 Nidoking (2713961 points)
I think it's notable to note that increase, even if it's not in the top 60.
January
#135 Nidoking (1452627 points)
February
# 92 Nidoking (2713961 points)
I think it's notable to note that increase, even if it's not in the top 60.
Wobbuffet is #39, and Deoxys-e is #47. Using the 75% definition of OU (in which 49 Pokemon were OU last month), 47 Pokemon are OU this month. That's not enough centralization to be able to attribute to either Wobbuffet or Deoxys-e. The natural centralization that will occur as the metagame matures is more than enough to account for that small change. Like them or not, it is a simply wrong claim to suggest they centralize the metagame.
Wobbuffet's big thing is that he blocks switches with his trait. The other fully evolved Pokemon that can do this are Magnezone, Dugtrio, and Probopass. Magnezone (#30) and Dugtrio (#38) both outrank Wobbuffet; Wobbuffet only beats out Probopass (#184). Wobbuffet ranks 3/4.
Let us compare Deoxys-e to both Pokemon with 600+ base stat total and Pokemon with 120+ base speed. First the 600+ bst. That includes all legal legendaries except Phione as well as Dragonite, Tyranitar, Slaking, Metagross, Salamence, and Garchomp which makes 25 total. Deoxys-e is used less than Garchomp (#1), Tyranitar (#5), Heatran (#7), Salamence (#9), Metagross (#10), Celebi (#16), Cresselia (#19), Jirachi (#20), Azelf (#27), Zapdos (#32), and Suicune (#34). It is used more than Dragonite (#49), Raikou (#72), Uxie (#77), Mesprit (#88), Moltres (#98), Regirock (#102), Regice (#107), Registeel (#113), Slaking (#124), Shaymin (#133), Articuno (#157), Regigigas (#159), and Entei (#174). This puts Deoxys-e at 12/25.
Pokemon with base 120+ speed that are used more than Deoxys-e are Weavile (#12), Dugtrio (#38), and Ninjask (#41). Deoxys-e beats out Jolteon (#48), Crobat (#53), Alakazam (#55), Sceptile (#56), Aerodactyl (#63), Swellow (#105), and Electrode (#152). Deoxys-e ranks 4/11.
I think it's a pretty clear message that Wobbuffet not only isn't the highest rated trapper but is, among trappers, below average! Deoxys-e is right about at the halfway mark of Pokemon with 600+ BST and, while he compares mostly favorably to other really fast Pokemon, he's not even close to contention for number 1. The evidence seems to suggest that these Pokemon are not only not uber but not even all that great. I expected them to not end up looking uber, but their performance was dismal beyond all of my predictions. Wobbuffet doesn't stand out at all among trappers, and Deoxys-e is fighting to avoid dropping into BL!
The one clear impact Wobbuffet did have is that Smeargle use is up a good deal. He was #75 in January, and he's #66 now. Still, that's hardly the meteoric climb that would be expected if Wobbuffet + Smeargle + Lucario were an unstoppable combination as #66 is more than a stone's throw out of OU.
Wobbuffet's big thing is that he blocks switches with his trait. The other fully evolved Pokemon that can do this are Magnezone, Dugtrio, and Probopass. Magnezone (#30) and Dugtrio (#38) both outrank Wobbuffet; Wobbuffet only beats out Probopass (#184). Wobbuffet ranks 3/4.
Let us compare Deoxys-e to both Pokemon with 600+ base stat total and Pokemon with 120+ base speed. First the 600+ bst. That includes all legal legendaries except Phione as well as Dragonite, Tyranitar, Slaking, Metagross, Salamence, and Garchomp which makes 25 total. Deoxys-e is used less than Garchomp (#1), Tyranitar (#5), Heatran (#7), Salamence (#9), Metagross (#10), Celebi (#16), Cresselia (#19), Jirachi (#20), Azelf (#27), Zapdos (#32), and Suicune (#34). It is used more than Dragonite (#49), Raikou (#72), Uxie (#77), Mesprit (#88), Moltres (#98), Regirock (#102), Regice (#107), Registeel (#113), Slaking (#124), Shaymin (#133), Articuno (#157), Regigigas (#159), and Entei (#174). This puts Deoxys-e at 12/25.
Pokemon with base 120+ speed that are used more than Deoxys-e are Weavile (#12), Dugtrio (#38), and Ninjask (#41). Deoxys-e beats out Jolteon (#48), Crobat (#53), Alakazam (#55), Sceptile (#56), Aerodactyl (#63), Swellow (#105), and Electrode (#152). Deoxys-e ranks 4/11.
I think it's a pretty clear message that Wobbuffet not only isn't the highest rated trapper but is, among trappers, below average! Deoxys-e is right about at the halfway mark of Pokemon with 600+ BST and, while he compares mostly favorably to other really fast Pokemon, he's not even close to contention for number 1. The evidence seems to suggest that these Pokemon are not only not uber but not even all that great. I expected them to not end up looking uber, but their performance was dismal beyond all of my predictions. Wobbuffet doesn't stand out at all among trappers, and Deoxys-e is fighting to avoid dropping into BL!
The one clear impact Wobbuffet did have is that Smeargle use is up a good deal. He was #75 in January, and he's #66 now. Still, that's hardly the meteoric climb that would be expected if Wobbuffet + Smeargle + Lucario were an unstoppable combination as #66 is more than a stone's throw out of OU.
@Brawlex
Mixmence is somewhat walled by Heatran? Forget Brick Break, you need to be running Earthquake on your MixMence. In fact, I've had a lot of success with Dragon Dance / Dragon Claw / Fire Blast / Earthquake.
Anyway, everyone else seems to have noted the changes that I was going to note. Nice to see Vaporeon overtake Suicune in usage. :)
I do need to get to using Spiritomb more and boost its rating, though.
Mixmence is somewhat walled by Heatran? Forget Brick Break, you need to be running Earthquake on your MixMence. In fact, I've had a lot of success with Dragon Dance / Dragon Claw / Fire Blast / Earthquake.
Anyway, everyone else seems to have noted the changes that I was going to note. Nice to see Vaporeon overtake Suicune in usage. :)
I do need to get to using Spiritomb more and boost its rating, though.
Grr I woke up too late to make this thread. :(
Haha awesome, Bibarel went up from #243 to #227. I used that bitch a lot this month, but I was the only one...what's wrong with you people?
Use Shaymin more please. I posted all those calcs with SpecsShay for a reason. -.-
Once again, Kingdra was JUST beaten off the charts of OU,since OU is top 47, and not top 49...
I really expected DX-S usage to be higher, something like #20 or something, but c'mon, #47? That's kinda humiliating for such a good pokemon, not uber, but such a good pokemon! If people can bear to use Garchomp, then why not use DX-S? Same with Wobbuffet. I used Wobbuffet on one of my teams since I have no shame, and I can say that I thoroughly enjoyed it. :P
Why'd you all have to fuckle with Shuckle? Now it dropped 13 places, you people who aren't using him aren't being very nice!
Didn't Dusknoir used to be in the top 10 at one point? -.-
Also, I really do believe that Gengar can overtake Garchomp next month, because their usages are actually extremely close, but Blissey is going to move even further down, though I haven't seen a Gyarados in a long time. I'd imagine Lucario being the next one to beat out Blissey actually.
Lastly, for now, props to Azumarill for rising 8 places from #78 to #70!
Haha awesome, Bibarel went up from #243 to #227. I used that bitch a lot this month, but I was the only one...what's wrong with you people?
Use Shaymin more please. I posted all those calcs with SpecsShay for a reason. -.-
Once again, Kingdra was JUST beaten off the charts of OU,since OU is top 47, and not top 49...
I really expected DX-S usage to be higher, something like #20 or something, but c'mon, #47? That's kinda humiliating for such a good pokemon, not uber, but such a good pokemon! If people can bear to use Garchomp, then why not use DX-S? Same with Wobbuffet. I used Wobbuffet on one of my teams since I have no shame, and I can say that I thoroughly enjoyed it. :P
Why'd you all have to fuckle with Shuckle? Now it dropped 13 places, you people who aren't using him aren't being very nice!
Didn't Dusknoir used to be in the top 10 at one point? -.-
Also, I really do believe that Gengar can overtake Garchomp next month, because their usages are actually extremely close, but Blissey is going to move even further down, though I haven't seen a Gyarados in a long time. I'd imagine Lucario being the next one to beat out Blissey actually.
Lastly, for now, props to Azumarill for rising 8 places from #78 to #70!
I honestly believe Mamoswine is highly overrated, but thats just me.
Kingdra dropping off of OU pains me. I'm gonna have to bring its usage up. He's the best pure sweeper in the game IMO.
Kingdra dropping off of OU pains me. I'm gonna have to bring its usage up. He's the best pure sweeper in the game IMO.
Some people don't use Wobb or Deox because they still consider them "uber" - or it goes against their principals.
Usage statistics don't make the pokemon strong - their individual stats/abilities/etc do.
Its no fun 6-0ing someone with Deoxys-E. I haven't seen very many people defending Deoxys as OU.
If they don't have a Metagross, Jirachi, or Bronzong, GG.
Also Mawile is the 136th most popular lead. Cool.