Final Platinum Team. OU mainly.

Sammichman

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NOW THE TEAM

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Electivire w/ Expert Belt
Adamant
EVs:4 HP / 252 Atk / 220 Spe
~Thunderpunch
~ Ice Punch
~ Earthquake
~ Cross Chop

Physically beat them down. ThunderPunch gets STAB so that's nice. Switch in on a likely thunder attack on Gyarados or Vaporeon or Skarmory, get some speed. Hit dragons with Ice. Skarm with Thunderpunch. Cross Chop and Earthquake are for T-Tar and things like Blissey mostly. Like this set better than the mixed sweeper cause of the moves. I dunno still considering it but I'll probably go with physical so I can just focus in on one area and stick with it.

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Alakazam w/ Choice Specs
Timid
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
~ Psychic
~ Focus Blast
~ Signal Beam
~ Trick

Needed a Special Sweeper. What else is there? It's quick and hits hard. Trick is for Blissey. Focus Blast and Signal Beam are for anything that doesn't like the Psychics I will inevitably be spamming. I thought that he complimented my physical electivire very well. Maybe it's just me. He was my second choice on the team. Moves are standard for him I wouldn't even think of any other moveset for him.

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Vaporeon w/ Leftovers
Bold
EVs: 188 HP / 252 Def / 68 SpD
~ Wish
~ Protect
~ Surf
~ Toxic

A wall and a healer for things like Alakazam. Also get to the opponent with toxic. Then there is the added advantage of drawing on those electric type attacks and powering up Electrive. Surf is to counter Heatran and Infernape mainly. Should outspeed other walls so get a wish in and switch out. Maybe toxic to be replaced with HP Thunder. not sure on that though Gyarados doesn't really like poison so hitting it with that would really hurt.

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Dusknoir w/ Leftovers
Impish
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpD
~ Will-O-Wisp
~ Fire Punch
~ ThunderPunch / Ice Punch
~ Pain Split
Probably IcePunch.
Another wall that should also be able to fight back.Will-O-Wisp of the physical sweepers to try and weaken them. Heracross can be taken out with Fire Punch while Salamance and his dragon buddies should go down with ice punch. Pain Split just seemed safer than rest. Don't really like rest in general.

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Gyarados w/ Life Orb
Adamant
EVs: 4HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
~ Dragon Dance
~ Waterfall
~ Ice Fang/ Stone Edge
~ Stone Edge/ Earthquake

Boost with D-Dance when possible. Waterfall for big hits against T-Tar and other grounds. Probably going to go with ice fang for the second for Salamance coverage. The final spot is tough. I'm leaning towards Earthquake. But the only problem with it is actually getting Earthquake since it costs so many BP. But oh well. I'd prefer Stone Edge over Earthquake if it were just more damn accurate.

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Skarmory w/Leftovers
Impish
Evs: 252 HP / 64 Atk / 176 Def / 16 Spe
~ Brave Bird
~ Roost
~ Stealth Rock
~ Whirlwind

The leader of the team. Opens with Stealth Rock then draw an electric attack to boost Electivire. I chose Brave Bird over Drill Peck because with his already sub-par attack Skarmory needs all the help he can get and leftovers should recover a bit of that damage to him anyway. Whirlwind is so get something nasty out of there or to force Stealth Rock Damage on any pesky pokemon that just won't quit. Roost is for HP recovery obviously and for less damage from Stone Edge or any other big strength rock move.

Thanks for any tips and advice.
 
Hm.. it seems like Electivire is the centerpiece of your team. Don't lead with it then. You want to save Electivire for late-game, when people haven't seen it yet, and you can pull off a Motor drive boost. And, give it Life Orb over Expert Belt, and make it a mixed set. Skarmory can come in after you get a kill, survive a T-punch with ease, and Whirlwind you out. Then people will know about E-vire, and be wise enough to not use Electric type attacks.
Alakazam also begs for a Scarf. Salamence can do serious damage to your team if it gets a Dragon Dance up. (Coming in on a specs Signal beam perhaps...) So, change Trick for HP Ice. You need Signal Beam and Focus Blast to deal with Celebi and Steel types respectivly.
On Gyarados, it may seem a bit gimmicky, but I would try Bounce over Ice Fang, and keep Earthquake. After a DD, it OHKO's Salamence after Stealth Rock damage, 2HKO's defensively Bulky Celebi after a DD, and also OHKO's sweeping Starmie after a DD. You can also dodge predicted explosions. ;]
 
Electivire won't lead, gotta keep him hidden, like you said. Probably lead with Gyara. And your bounce idea is very nice Might try it. Cause if Dusknoir AND Ala have me covered in the ice department no need for it. All these Hidden powers are just very intimidating since this is the first team that'll be bred all on my own. Any tips other than keep trying?
 
Always use Stone Edge with Bounce to hit Zapdos and co. A lot of these pokemon just dont belong together. I dont see the point in Skarmory here. Just replace it for a lead Metagross or something else and then you've got yourselves a good lead. Metagross' set is this:

Metagross@Occa Berry
Clear Body
Adamant nature
Evs-252HP/236Atk/12Def/8Spd
-Stealth Rock
-Bullet Punch
-Earthquake
-Explosion/Meteor Mash
One of the best leads there is, very reliable at getting stealth rocks up and handles most leads, Meteor Mash is an option over Explosion so that you can deal with Azelf leads who otherwise are only 3HKOed by Bullet Punch while Fire Blast 2HKOs Metagross. Earthquake means it can beat lead Infernape due to Occa Berry taking the Fire Attack then Earthquake bringing it down to the sash to be finished by Bullet Punch.

Rotom-H is better than Dusknoir and the trick-scarfer could be really useful to this team as most of your team is OHKOed by Lucario after a SD. Rotom-H gives you protection as Offensive Gyarados isnt going to be lastling incredubly long. This is the set I think you should use:

Rotom-H@Choice Scarf
Timid nature
Levitate
Evs-4HP/252Spd/252SAtk
-Trick
-Shadow Ball
-Overheat
-Thunderbolt
Trick will cripple Blissey among others that may switch in to wall you. Thunderbolt is STAb and OHKOs Gyarados and can finis off weakened Salamences, Infernapes and others. Overheat OHKOs Scizor, Lucario and others while Shadow Ball hits ghosts.
 
Tested it on Shoddy. Two wins, three losses. Pretty okay, one lost was because of a stupid switch by me another was because my team hates Beloom. >.>
 
joel22 said:
Always use Stone Edge with Bounce to hit Zapdos and co. A lot of these pokemon just dont belong together. I dont see the point in Skarmory here. Just replace it for a lead Metagross or something else and then you've got yourselves a good lead. Metagross' set is this:

Metagross@Occa Berry
Clear Body
Adamant nature
Evs-252HP/236Atk/12Def/8Spd
-Stealth Rock
-Bullet Punch
-Earthquake
-Explosion/Meteor Mash
One of the best leads there is, very reliable at getting stealth rocks up and handles most leads, Meteor Mash is an option over Explosion so that you can deal with Azelf leads who otherwise are only 3HKOed by Bullet Punch while Fire Blast 2HKOs Metagross. Earthquake means it can beat lead Infernape due to Occa Berry taking the Fire Attack then Earthquake bringing it down to the sash to be finished by Bullet Punch.

Rotom-H is better than Dusknoir and the trick-scarfer could be really useful to this team as most of your team is OHKOed by Lucario after a SD. Rotom-H gives you protection as Offensive Gyarados isnt going to be lastling incredubly long. This is the set I think you should use:

Rotom-H@Choice Scarf
Timid nature
Levitate
Evs-4HP/252Spd/252SAtk
-Trick
-Shadow Ball
-Overheat
-Thunderbolt
Trick will cripple Blissey among others that may switch in to wall you. Thunderbolt is STAb and OHKOs Gyarados and can finis off weakened Salamences, Infernapes and others. Overheat OHKOs Scizor, Lucario and others while Shadow Ball hits ghosts.
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He can't use Rotom-H, he said this team was for wi-fi. Dusknoir's the best option he has as a bulky ghost. :|
And I honestly don't see how your team is weak to Breloom... you have Alakazam. And Electivire. xD
 
BrodericKK said:
He can't use Rotom-H, he said this team was for wi-fi. Dusknoir's the best option he has as a bulky ghost. :|
And I honestly don't see how your team is weak to Breloom... you have Alakazam. And Electivire. xD
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Well Ala died cause I switch in on a stupid move and Electivire died cause Breloom had a substitute and put it to sleep >.>
 
Hello Sammichman, welcome to Smogon!

Okay, I'm going to help your team out as much as I can.

Now, its clear that you really like Electivire, and would like to make that the centerpiece of the team. So I won't suggest any other pokemon as the centerpiece. I think this team's main problem is that your a bit too caught up in the pokemon "roles." You shouldn't relegate pokemon to "Special Sweeper" or "wall." Rather, you should try to have good typing, as well as offensive and defensive symmetry. Most importantly, your team needs to have a focus, and every member on this team should work to accomplish one goal, which I'm guessing is an Electivire sweep. So with that being said, I think step one for your team should be to try out different Electivire sets. I think you should try this one that is currently being discussed in the analysis workshop: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55677

For convenience sake, here is the set:

[SET]
name: Meditate
move 1: Meditate
move 2: ThunderPunch
move 3: Ice Punch
move 4: Earthquake / Low Kick
item: Life Orb
nature: Adamant
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

Okay, now you want to figure out what Electivire cannot beat. The answer is extremely bulky pokemon, particularly bulky grounds such as Swampert, Donphan, and Hippowdon. Fortunately for Electivire, they are all weak to residual damage. Since you already have Skarmory, that is a good start. Skarmory is also weak to Electric, so that is more bait for E-Vire!

So for Skarm, I actually recommend replacing Stealth Rock for Spikes, since Skarm is an excellent Spiker and you can find Stealth Rock somewhere else. I personally use this EV spread for Skarm:

252 HP / 240 SpD / 16 Spe, Impish. This is a personal preference, but IMO extra Special Defense keeps random HP Fires from things like Celebi from getting the best of you. Additionally, Skarm's physical defense is already solid and you will only Spike on things you already wall anyway.

So, now that you have Skarm and Electivire, I noticed you have Gyarados. Gyarados is more excellent synergy because it counters many threats in the Metagame, provides another opportunity for Electivire to come in, AND Supports Skarm's Fire Weakness. I would actually replace your current Gyarados to fit the current residual Damage theme. Therefore, I would try this:

Gyarados @ Leftovers
Impish Nature:
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
*Waterfall
*Roar
*Rest
*Sleep Talk

Gyarados will counter a lot for you, and Roar shuffles the opponents team.

Now you have every type covered in these 3 except for Rock. That means you are a bit Tyranitar weak. So you want something to come in on Stone Edges. Well, your candidates for that are Fighting Pokemon, Steel Pokemon, and Ground Pokemon. Since Electivire is immune to Electricity anyway, you should probably use a Fighting Pokemon or another Steel. Now, from here you can go a few routes:

Route 1: Machamp could fulfill several roles in your team. For starters, it resists Rock. And secondly, it does a good job at luring out and defeating or weakening many of the bulkier pokemon that Electivire struggles against such as Rotom, Hippowdon and Swampert. From here, your all your team really lacks is a Stealth Rocker and a Gyarados counter. Since you only have 1 fire weak, you may be able to add Celebi, who can switch into those bulky grounds and counter Gyarados.

Route 2: You could actually add a second Steel for a nice Rock resist in the form of Bronzong / Metagross / Jirachi, and the bonus is they all can Stealth Rock. From here you may want a second Fire resist to ensure that Heatran doesn't get the best of you. Porygon2 stops Heatran cold, spreads paralysis which can help out E-Vire if you don't get a boost, and also counters Gyarados. Latias is a solid Fire Resist, and can learn Roar to further shuffle the opponents team.

EDIT: Rotom makes an excellent Spin blocker and Gyarados counter all in one!

In conclusion, I can't make the whole team for you, but hopefully I led you down the right path. Think of a strategy, and pick pokemon to fulfill it. I think Electivire / Gyarados / Skarm is a strong core that can showcase all 3 of them working together. Have a nice day!
 
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