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UU Froslass

TheManlyLadybug said:
Remove the title part, Azelf is done now so it's the first completed analysis
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same deal as last time
Overview
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Froslass may seem limited to a couple of sets, but that doesn't mean she's limited in potential. She is one of the only Pokemon that can spinblock and set up Spikes at the same time, making her a great dedicated lead, and also has the necessary Speed to get her moves off before falling. Unfortunately, Froslass doesn't have everything going for her. Her typing is a double-edged sword, leaving her weak to both of Mega Houndoom's STABs, Pursuit, and Stealth Rock,(AC) which prevents her from coming in multiple times throughout the match.

Leadlass
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name: Leadlass
move 1: Spikes
move 2: Taunt
move 3: Destiny Bond
move 4: Thunder Wave / Icy Wind
ability: Cursed Body
item: Focus Sash
evs: 252 HP / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
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Being able to use Spikes is Froslass's greatest niche in the metagame and can help wear down the opposing team over time. In order to do this efficiently, Froslass needs to use Taunt to prevent opposing Pokemon from using Defog or Taunt, setting up their own entry hazards, or setting up. Destiny Bond is also effective in tandem with Froslass's base 110 Speed and allows her to take down other Pokemon, especially Rapid Spin users, with her after Focus Sash is used up. Thunder Wave is an option for the last move of the set that allows her to shut down fast Pokemon trying to set up, such as like Mega Houndoom, and paves the way for her own Taunt and Destiny Bond. Icy Wind is a STAB option that works similar to Taunt and keeps Froslass from becoming complete Taunt bait. She can catch Taunt users coming in on a switch and then Taunt them to keep herself from being Taunted.

Set Details
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The EVs are standard for a suicide lead with no attacking moves. If STAB Icy Wind or Shadow Ball is opted for over Thunder Wave, then the HP EVs can be moved over to Special Attack accordingly. Focus Sash guarantees that Froslass can survive to lay down at least one layer of Spikes. Timid is to maximize speed for using Taunt and Destiny Bond. Cursed Body allows Froslass to set up an additional layer of Spikes against Choice-locked Pokemon roughly 1/3 of the time.

Usage Tips
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Froslass should be sent out towards, if not at, the beginning of the match to make the most out of Spikes. Don't bother with other moves unless absolutely necessary, especially when running STAB attacks. Use Destiny Bonds to your advantage by playing mind tricks on your opponent. You can fake even bluff the Destiny Bond and use Spikes instead, racking up damage on the incoming switch. She's fairly useless late game, especially because Stealth Rock breaks Focus Sash, so try to send her out first, but remember that Froslass, even at one HP, can still spinblock if necessary.

Team Options
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Sweepers that can take advantage of Spikes, Taunt, and Thunder Wave make for the best partners, such as Choice Scarf Darmanitan or Sharpedo. Froslass fits easily onto hyperoffensive teams in need of a suicide lead, especially one with no space for a spinblocker.


Other Options
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Pain Split is one viable option that lets Froslass inflict massive damage after using up Focus Sash. It also lets Froslass sticks around longer if you don't want to use it as a sash lead. She can also run a Trick + Choice Scarf to completely shut down the likes of Crocune and other entry hazard setters. You She can also set up Spikes during these turns, but this is not a viable strategy. Ice Beam or Shadow Ball can be used for reliable STABs.


Checks & Counters
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**Blastoise**: Blastoise is a major pain for Froslass as it can use Dark Pulse to take her down, and then proceed to spin away Spikes.

**Fast Defog users**: Pokemon that can outspeed and use Defog before Froslass can fire off a Taunt makes all of her efforts in vain.

**Pursuit**: Like most Ghost-types, Froslass can do very little when trapped (insert space) by a Pursuit user.

**Fast Taunters**: Much like fast Defog users, Froslass has to watch out for the likes of Sableye, Azelf, and Mega Aerodactyl who can shut her down with Taunt.
kokoloko Wyvern wow i'd be pretty mad at you guys if i had a life u.u

GP 1.000000000000000001/2
 
Anything with a Multi-hit move deserves a mention in C&C imo (CINCCINO, Rhyperior, etc.) since even though I can't think of any very relevant ones in UU they can limit Froslass to either 1 layer without getting bonded or, in the case of Cinccino, OHKO outright.
 
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Overview
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  • One of the best dedicated leads in the game.
  • Can spinblock /and/ set up spikes at the same time.
  • Stellar Speed.
  • Bad defensive typing leaves it weak to Stealth Rock and both of Mega Houndoom's STABs and Pursuit.
Leadlass
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name: Leadlass
move 1: Spikes
move 2: Taunt
move 3: Destiny Bond
move 4: Thunder Wave / Icy Wind
ability: Cursed Body
item: Focus Sash
evs: 252 HP / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
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  • Spikes is Spikes.
  • Taunt is to prevent Defoggers, Setup Sweepers, and other Hazard Setters.
  • Destiny Bond is effective in tandem with Base 110 Speed and allows her to take down the other Pokemon--it is especially useful versus Rapid Spin users. Also, it keeps Froslass useful, even at one HP.
  • Thunder Wave is used over a STAB move because it slows down opposing fast Taunt users to pave the way for your own Taunt or Destiny Bond.
  • Icy Wind can be run over Thunder Wave to achieve similar, but not permanent, results without being Taunt-bait.

Set Details
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  • Normal EVs for a suicide lead. The HP EVs can be moved to SpA if running STAB(s).
  • Focus Sash guarantees that she can set down at least one layer of Spikes.
  • Timid is to maximize Speed. Modest should not be used.
  • Cursed Body so allows Froslass to set up an additional layer of Spikes against Choice-locked Pokemon roughly 1/3 of the time.
Usage Tips
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  • Send her in as early as possible in the match to make the most out of the Spikes.
  • 90% of the time, you'll be clicking Spikes or Destiny Bond.
  • Destiny Bond can be used to create free turns to use Spikes again or to force Pokemon to switch so they can rack up more residual from the Spikes you just set. It will also occasionally get a kill on the opponent's Rapid Spin user, which is nice.
  • This is fairly counter-intuitive for a Suicide lead, but remember that Froslass, even at one HP, can still spinblock if necessary, so it's worth keeping her around if the opponent packs a Spinner.

Team Options
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  • Sweepers that can take advantage of Spikes and Taunt. Choice Scarf Darmanitan and Sharpedo are excellent choices.
  • Fits on offensive teams that want reliable Spikes leads.

Other Options
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  • Pain Split with Leftovers allows Froslass to stick around for a while longer should you decide you don't want to use it a suicide lead.
  • Trick + Choice Scarf can be used to cripple opposing Pokemon and then proceed to use Spikes, but this is not a reliable strategy.
  • Ice Beam and Shadow Ball can be used on the given set as reliable STAB attacks.

Checks & Counters
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  • Blastoise, a spinner who can get past Ghost-types.
  • Defog users who can't be stopped outside of Taunt.
  • Pursuit
  • Fast Taunts (Sableye, Mega Aerodactyl, Azelf)
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Overview
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Froslass may seem limited to a couple of sets, but that doesn't mean she's limited in potential. She is one of the only Pokemon that can spinblock and set up Spikes at the same time, making her a great dedicated lead, and also has the necessary Speed to get her moves off before falling. Unfortunately, Froslass doesn't have everything going for her. Her typing is a double-edged sword, leaving her weak to both of Mega Houndoom's STABs, Pursuit, and Stealth Rock, which prevents her from coming in multiple times throughout the match. You should probably add in a closing sentence here because it seems sort of incomplete. Something like "Disadvantages considered, Froslass is a powerful Pokemon in the metagame and should be considered while teambuilding."

Leadlass
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name: Leadlass
move 1: Spikes
move 2: Taunt
move 3: Destiny Bond
move 4: Thunder Wave / Icy Wind
ability: Cursed Body
item: Focus Sash
evs: 252 HP / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
nature: Timid

Moves
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Being able to use Spikes is Froslass's greatest niche in the metagame and can help wear down the opposing team over time. In order to do this efficiently, Froslass needs to use Taunt to prevent opposing Pokemon from using Defog or Taunt, setting up their own entry hazards, or setting up. Destiny Bond is also effective in tandem with Froslass's Base 110 Speed and allows her to take down other Pokemon, especially Rapid Spin users, with her after Focus Sash is used up This sounds strange, try putting it in another order like "110 Speed allows her to take down other Pokemon after her Focus Sash has been used up, especially Rapid Spin users". Thunder Wave is an option preferred for the last move of the set that because it allows her to shut down fast Pokemon trying to set up,(RC) such as Mega Houndoom, and paves the way for her own Taunt and Destiny Bond (This sounds kind of strange. I do not entirely understand what you are saying here). Icy Wind is a STAB option that works similar to Taunt (Not exactly sure what you mean by this. Did you mean Thunder Wave?) and keeps Froslass from becoming complete Taunt bait. She can catch Taunt users coming in on a switch and then Taunt them to keep herself from being Taunted.

Set Details
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The EVs are standard for a suicide lead with no attacking moves. If STAB Icy Wind or Shadow Ball is opted for over Thunder Wave, then the HP EVs can be moved over to Special Attack accordingly. Focus Sash guarantees that Froslass can survive to lay down at least one layer of Spikes. Timid is to maximize speed for using Taunt and Destiny Bond. Cursed Body allows Froslass to set up an additional layer of Spikes against Choice-locked Pokemon roughly 1/3 of the time.

Usage Tips
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Froslass should be sent out towards, if not at, the beginning of the match to make the most out of Spikes. Don't bother with other moves unless absolutely necessary, especially when running STAB attacks. Use Destiny Bond to your advantage by playing mind tricks on your opponent and earning yourself an easy KO. You can even bluff Destiny Bond and use Spikes instead, racking up damage on the incoming switch. She's fairly useless late game, especially because Stealth Rock breaks Focus Sash, so try to send her out first early, (Remove comma, add period) but remember Keep in mind that Froslass, even at one HP, can still spinblock if necessary.

Team Options
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Sweepers that can take advantage of Spikes, Taunt, and Thunder Wave make for the best partners, such as Choice Scarf Darmanitan or Sharpedo. Froslass fits easily onto hyperoffensive hyper offensive teams in need of a suicide lead, especially one with no space for a spinblocker.


Other Options
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Pain Split is one viable option that lets Froslass inflict massive damage after using up Focus Sash. It also lets Froslass stick around longer if you don't want to use it as a sash lead. She can also run a Trick + Choice Scarf to completely shut down the likes of Crocune and other entry hazard setters. She can also set up Spikes during these turns, but this is not a viable strategy. Ice Beam or Shadow Ball can be used for reliable STABs but the utility of Thunder Wave and Icy Wind is usually more beneficial.


Checks & Counters
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**Blastoise**: Blastoise is a major pain for Froslass as it can use Dark Pulse to take her down, and then proceed to spin away Spikes.

**Fast Defog users**: Pokemon that can outspeed and use Defog before Froslass can fire off a Taunt makes all of her efforts in vain.

**Pursuit**: Like most Ghost-types, Froslass can do very little when trapped by a Pursuit user.

**Fast Taunters**: Much like fast Defog users, Froslass has to watch out for the likes of Sableye, Azelf, and Mega Aerodactyl who can shut her down with Taunt.

**Multi-hit Users**: Pokemon, like Cloyster, can use a move that hits multiple times to break Froslass's sash and restrict her to only one layer of Spikes maybe Cinccino deserves a mention here
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A few things:

The "may" in the opening sentence should be "might"

"Base 110 Speed" in moves---"base" should be lowecase.

"Speed" in the second sentence of Set Details should be capitalized

At the end of team options, "one with no space for a spinblocker" should be "ones with no space"

Remove "sash" from "sash lead" in the second sentence of Other Options

"Fast Defog users" should be "Fast Defog Users"

Other than that Wyvern (Minus?) and I stamp Ununhexium's check

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As far as I know evasion abilities weren't unbanned this gen, so both Snow Cloak and Sand Veil should still be unusable. I might be wrong, though.

Edit Swamp Link : Lol then why is it every time I talked about them people told me they were still banned under Evasion Clause? Well whatever, then it's ok to mention Snow Cloak I guess
 
Ernesto said:
As far as I know evasion abilities weren't unbanned this gen, so both Snow Cloak and Sand Veil should still be unusable. I might be wrong, though.
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You are, for whatever reason with the weather nerf they were unbanned, although there's really 0 reason to do so.

Source: I lost to a Sand Veil Brightpowder SubSD Garchomp in an XY Smogon Tour.
 
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