I didn't even think of Knock Off. Seriously, just use that instead. I guess Thief keeps Fling usable a bit longer, but who cares when you're just going to most likely throw the Leftovers or some boosting item.
Flying Gem is generally inferior to Toxic Orb. The one time boost of Flying Gem doesn't warrant much use because you can use Fling to get rid of the Toxic Orb and fair better in the end. I'd take a stab 110 Base Power Attack + Consistent Automatic Recovery over a single power up to that aforementioned attacked any day. In the end, the long term healing is much better.Are you serious? No mention of Flying gem gliscor anywere? Sure Gliscor is meant as a wall, but you have to admit it is pretty good with acrobatics. It can do pretty good on a sandstorm team with sand veil (since you cant use toxic orb). I'm pretty sure that flying/ground is only resisted by bronzong (who i haven't seen much this gen, like 1 or 2) and electross (or what ever its called). Air Balloon Excadrill (Doryuuzu for those who dont bother to learn the english names) will only resist this until you pop the balloon, but it will most likely switch since you wall it. Seriously, i dont see this combo much, and I think its way underrated.
Discuss. The old EQ/ice fang/stealth rock/roost type set could also be mentioned, as it's still a viable choice.[SET]
name: Acrofling
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Acrobatics
move 3: Fling
move 4: Protect / Swords Dance / Taunt
item: Toxic Orb
ability: Poison Heal
nature: Impish
evs: 244 HP / 252 Def / 12 SpDef
240: outspeeds adamant breloom, OHKOing with acrobatics.
- Earthquake and Acrobat are both powerful STAB moves that give gliscor offensive presence and great coverage.
- Fling Is the crux of the set, powering up acrobatics and threatening walls who stay in with poison.
- The last slot can be customized to suit your needs. Protect will give gliscor room to recover 25% of it's HP over two turns, and can scout for ice moves on the pokes he walls, such as landorus.
- Swords dance gives gliscor an offensive edge, giving him enough power to KO opponents such as reuniclus and hippowdon, who he would otherwise struggle against.
- Taunt is always a solid choice, stopping stall in it's tracks and giving gliscor amazing utility.
- 244 HP EVs give gliscor 352 HP, which is his highest lefties number, maximizing poison healing. Defense is maxed to take physical hits, and the rest is put in special defense to buffer gliscor against weak special hits, and give him a chance to survive weaker ice attacks. An unstabbed HP ice coming from 266 special attack (base 115 with o EV investment) fails to KO this gliscor.
- U-turn, ice fang and fire fang are also options. Mention somewhere?
- If you want more speed, take it out of his defense. Common speeds to aim for are:
244: outspeeds jolly tyranitar.
260: outspeeds adamant blaziken. (moot now)
280: outspeeds timid heatran and adamant lucario
285: outspeeds all base 80 pokes.
289: Speed ties with other neutral base 95 pokes. Can possibly get the jump on darmanitan, KOing with earthquake.
[SET]
name: AcroBling (offensive booster)
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Acrobatics
move 3: Swords Dance
move 4: Rock Polish / Fire Fang
item: Flight Gem
ability: Hyper Cutter / Sand Veil
nature: Adamant / Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 Def
- Has surpise factor, decent speed, power and bulk.
- Powerful STABs, with flight gem to boost acrobatics.
- Rock polish with jolly hits 634 speed. Adamant maxes out at 578.
- Fire fang hits ferrothorn and skarmory.
- Other options include baton pass, ice fang (what would you be using this for?) taunt, roost and quick attack.
- A base 110 power acrobatics off 578/634 attack is a powerful sweeping tool, especially when backed by STAB EQ. Flying has great neutral coverage.
A Gliscor with no SpD investment always survives a unboosted Hidden Power Ice from 266 Special Attack, so that little buffer point is usless considering it only helps take 3% off from it, which is not going to help Gliscor survive at all. Also, hitting a Lefties number ( or Poison Heal number in this case) is completely usless and unescessary for Gliscor. Jibaku explained this last page and it seems you completely ignored him.244 HP EVs give gliscor 352 HP, which is his highest lefties number, maximizing poison healing. Defense is maxed to take physical hits, and the rest is put in special defense to buffer gliscor against weak special hits, and give him a chance to survive weaker ice attacks. An unstabbed HP ice coming from 266 special attack (base 115 with o EV investment) fails to KO this gliscor.
First, I should apologize to Optimusje and the QC team. I really don't know why I was so rude before. I didn't mean to insult anyone.Or how about we don't because this has already been approved by QC with the EV spread on Swords Dance (which actually works amazingly in my time using it), and the name "AcroBling" has to be the worst set name you could've used, and it's really just shit considering that A) Your not using Poison Heal, which would be fine if you were using Roost, but you're not. B) Why the fuck are you using Flight Gem for? Leftovers would work 4x better in the item slot (or just use Poison Heal and get more healing and status immunity), and C) What the hell does Rock Polish or Fire Fang have over better options like Taunt and Roost?
A Gliscor with no SpD investment always survives a unboosted Hidden Power Ice from 266 Special Attack, so that little buffer point is usless considering it only helps take 3% off from it, which is not going to help Gliscor survive at all. Also, hitting a Lefties number ( or Poison Heal number in this case) is completely usless and unescessary for Gliscor. Jibaku explained this last page and it seems you completely ignored him.
Lastly, The non-Poison Heal sets should only get mention in OO's. They really don't work as well because Gliscor needs every turn he can get to actually do something besides Roost and get almost nothing done.
Yeah, Im currently writing it out (finally) and its just a bit outdated in here. It wont be in the final thing, so dont worry.Also, Optimusje, on the first set, why is Ice Fang the first slash and it isnt mentioned in the set comments section while Facade is? Maybe you edited the set without changing the writing, idk but you should probably fix that :p
That's why you don't Fling onto a porygon2? You don't just hit it on whatever you're currently against. Use it wisely, or at least a little wiser than that..I just wanted to say Gliscor is awful against Porygon2, if you switch Porygon2 in you gain poison heal because of trace, so if you try flinging into a Porygon2, your in trouble, with poison heal and the Evolite stone Porygon2 almost becomes invincible, and can 1/2 hko it back with a ice beem