Global warming worsens weather extremes

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The freakish weather disasters from the sudden October snowstorm in the Northeast U.S. to the record floods in Thailand are striking more often. And global warming is likely to spawn more similar weather extremes at a huge cost. Do you think these weather disasters happening are at the cause of global warming in these unexpected times or it's just something that commonly doesn't happen that has nothing to do with global warming.

I think that these slightly weird weather climate changes have been the cause of Global warming, when it's snowing in October there's something to notice about that. The last time it snowed in the Tri-state area in October was on October 1952 and only 0.5 inches of snow fell that year. The recent storm bought in some parts of New Jersey had 10-11 inches of snow which is a huge difference so in my opinion there's definitely something wrong with the weather patterns.

Discuss.
 
I don't know if global warming was the primary factor to these frequent weather disasters. Whether global warming will produce more disasters or not, we can reduce such cost by preparing appropriately. The Northeast was aware that a storm was coming days ahead of time and that there was a possibility for a large snowfall. If we continue to predict and prepare for these events, we'll adapt for these growing threats.
 
You should be extremely careful when trying to attribute any one event to global warming, because it can't be done. The only thing you'll achieve by doing this is to foster the very same ignorance that we tend to try to remove when talking about global warming, and that's playing right into the deniers' hands. We really need to move on from these squabbles and talk about how we're going to deal with it. And no, my conservative friends, global warming does not by itself require you to do anything. You can still look at the many lives that would be displaced and/or die of hunger, and prefer it to what would happen if we took action by reducing carbon emissions. That could very well be a legitimate economical issue to tackle.
 
Somehow we're all missing the only line in the OP that I saw in my momentary skim-read:

AndViet said:
I think that these slightly weird weather climate changes have been the cause of Global warming
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I don't see why people are ignoring the new position in scepticism about humanity's involvement in global warming that is being presented.
 
Denying man-made global warming is like denying the holocaust at this point. Are there a metric fuckton of studies supporting the theory that it's man-made? Yes. Is it to the same extent that Al Gore claims? Probably not. Will global warming look like The Day After Tomorrow? No. Will it majorly screw up all life on earth? YES.

America, particularly corporate America, hates global warming, and since scientific studies are mostly funded by such corporations, theories supporting global warming have to come from mostly INDEPENDENT sources; there is no large conspiracy to fool the people into believing it's happening, because that would literally not benefit ANYBODY. Conspiracies NEED a beneficiary, that's the point of them. So who is it? Parasol salesmen? Solar panel producers? Al Gore? Are these three groups in cahoots, using their vast wealth to fund credited scientists' experiments and bribe them to skew the results? I don't know why global warming deniers (they call themselves "skeptics", as if there's rationale to their thought process, when all they do is dismiss legitimate evidence) even really bother to deny, since everyone's going to have to curb oil usage anyway. There's both ignorance and lack of foresight at work. But people are still going to deny because they don't want to change.

And that's what really annoys me. People adore denial, because embracing denial means they don't have to make any major changes, and people instinctively reject anything that threatens their way of life, even in the face of evidence. In the long run, though, denial doesn't really benefit anybody, and you're just screwing over future generations. Far more people deny global warming than there is evidence against it. It's kinda like creationism.

/rant, but despite what i think i really doubt you can draw parallels between one random snowstorm and capital g Global Warming. We had the hottest October day on record a couple weeks ago, but the rest of the month was pretty dismally cold.
 
Spork said:
Denying man-made global warming is like denying the holocaust at this point
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I dont see any significant effects in the weather. I was born in '93, no one really cared about the weather till, like, Hurricane Katrina hit and now there's these threads of doomsday due to global warming and "ungodly climate changes"
 
The fact that people still refuse to believe in global warming depresses me. Not to the extent of evolution deniers though so I guess you guys got that going for you.
 
ala said:
Md was the C-word really necessary there?

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Yes, yes it was, people who are so fucking stupid as to associate climate change with "HERP DERP LAST WINTER WAS COLD/LAST SUMMER WAS SUPER HOT" should be beaten over the head with a heavy object, unfortunately as this is the internet blunt language will have to do.

Climate change has very little to do with changes in the weather, less still to do with changes in weather in your specific geographic location, and even less to do with changes in weather in your specific geographic location over short time periods like a few years.

This all being said there is a possibly that it makes flooding worse than it would otherwise be.
 
This thread popped up at a very interesting time, just as this popped in the news.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ved-wrong-accused-hiding-truth-colleague.html

Nothing in the last 10 years has really changed, data was hidden showing recent periods of global temperature stability. Global Warming has basically stopped, and things aren't really getting worse now. The question isn't how high will temperatures reach in the future(unless something unexpected happens), it's how long will it take for the Earth to cool off again.

Anything weather related that's happening today could've happened in 2002, assuming the warming conditions of the earth are bringing it. And hopefully, some cooling will happen and sometime in the future these sort of weather extremes won't be happening as often (again assuming it is the fault of global warming to begin with).
 
jonnyrolo said:
I dont see any significant effects in the weather. I was born in '93, no one really cared about the weather till, like, Hurricane Katrina hit and now there's these threads of doomsday due to global warming and "ungodly climate changes"
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That's because you're ignorant, I'm sorry, but do some research. "significant effects in the weather" (whatever that means) has little to do with global warming at this stage.
 
UltiMario said:
This thread popped up at a very interesting time, just as this popped in the news.
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lol Daily Mail

Anyway, it's funny that this article popped up, considering how only five days before this story broke, where an (ironically) Koch industries-funded study found that surface temperature levels have absolutely risen significantly in the last ten years. The study collated all sorts of evidence that has been floating around for years, as well as individual experimentation and research, and is probably one of the most accurate to date. And the guy who conducted it was an outspoken skeptic to begin with.


Shiny Mew2 said:
Shouldn't global warming heat NJ up, not cool it off?
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Well it was a really hot day over here so global warming must be true i guess
 
UltiMario said:
Nothing in the last 10 years has really changed, data was hidden showing recent periods of global temperature stability. Global Warming has basically stopped, and things aren't really getting worse now. The question isn't how high will temperatures reach in the future(unless something unexpected happens), it's how long will it take for the Earth to cool off again.

Anything weather related that's happening today could've happened in 2002, assuming the warming conditions of the earth are bringing it. And hopefully, some cooling will happen and sometime in the future these sort of weather extremes won't be happening as often (again assuming it is the fault of global warming to begin with).
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When dealing with global temperature, you really have to look long term. Longer than a decade. So many factors influence temperature, that to see warming trends, you need very long periods of time. I went to an environmental camp over the summer, where I studied and researched climate change for about a week, and the official world temperature shows how over the temperature has increased an average of 1 degree over the past 70 years.
And as a side note for anyone who believes warming is due to natural cycles, the cycles can be calculated, and we are suppose to be getting colder at a much slower rate, not hotter at a (comparatively) fast speed.
 
The Apocalypse is coming! You are all doomed!

Now buy my book! And the DVD Set that goes with it! Also on Blu-Ray!

~ Al Gore.

List of things NOT caused by global warming:

Balmy, Enjoyable Days
The Delicious Flavor of Ice Cream
Adorable Baby Animals
Basically anything the media can't use to exploit your unfounded fears about imminent planetary doom.

Protip:
Wealth transfers do not fix climate imbalances.
Paying Kevin Tremberth to "hide the decline" is not an acceptable party game any longer.
Do not fuck with me, I had to get my shovel out in October, assholes.

America, particularly corporate America, hates global warming, and since scientific studies are mostly funded by such corporations, theories supporting global warming have to come from mostly INDEPENDENT sources; there is no large conspiracy to fool the people into believing it's happening, because that would literally not benefit ANYBODY. Conspiracies NEED a beneficiary, that's the point of them. So who is it? Parasol salesmen? Solar panel producers? Al Gore? Are these three groups in cahoots, using their vast wealth to fund credited scientists' experiments and bribe them to skew the results? I don't know why global warming deniers (they call themselves "skeptics", as if there's rationale to their thought process, when all they do is dismiss legitimate evidence) even really bother to deny, since everyone's going to have to curb oil usage anyway. There's both ignorance and lack of foresight at work. But people are still going to deny because they don't want to change.
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Ask all the Solar Panel companies that bundled money for Obama 2008 that received massive amounts of US Taxpayer dollars in payback how really, there's no collusion at all between government and companies that stand to benefit massively from the belief if we don't convert to solar we're all going to die - and it's all humanity's fault, too!
 
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