I think cows are B material now.
Volt-Ikazuchi Would Granbull do better vs Jasmine if it has X Accuracy?
Volt-Ikazuchi Would Granbull do better vs Jasmine if it has X Accuracy?
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Probably. Steelix would still 2HKO it, I guess.I think cows are B material now.
Volt-Ikazuchi Would Granbull do better vs Jasmine if it has X Accuracy?
1. They're still in A last I checked. That's fine, I actually would like to try Miltank or Tauros personally. Rollout's OPness and the sheer power of Normals in this game (Raticate and Granbull both impressing me thus far) really makes me wonder whether they deserve to be in B.I think cows are B material now.
Volt-Ikazuchi Would Granbull do better vs Jasmine if it has X Accuracy?
This makes me wonder if early Teddiursa could be better. Ursaring's 55 base speed isn't so bad that it's slower than everything so I wonder how much of a difference the extra stat exp would make. Golems 45 base speed still outspeeds a decent amount of things before the Elite 4. I don't know what Pokemon I want to use next so I might try it out.Granbull and Ursaring's low speed has started to become an issue :/
Neither Ursaring nor Granbull face speed issues against generic enemies, but that's because even Sunflora can outspeed a solid bunch of them. It's mostly against bosses that the lackluster speed becomes noticeable, and I'm fearing that it will affect their Elite Four performance. They would have to be able to OHKO stuff for them not to be worse than the current B Tiers. We will see.This makes me wonder if early Teddiursa could be better. Ursaring's 55 base speed isn't so bad that it's slower than everything so I wonder how much of a difference the extra stat exp would make. Golems 45 base speed still outspeeds a decent amount of things before the Elite 4. I don't know what Pokemon I want to use next so I might try it out.
Curious as to why Sudowoodo would have to be dropped, especially that low. Its great Attack and physical bulk mitigate its low speed. The beginning moveset of STAB + Low Kick cover the whole game (excluding Nidoking and Nidoqueen) and can be further improved by Dig.I'd also like to hear people's thoughts on moving Sudowoodo and Remoraid to D, as well as Shellder (GS) to E.
Agree about Gengar so far. I've just beaten Morty and my experiences with it are similar. I'm not sure about spamming that many X-Accuracy though since it is functionally similar to the X-Accuracy + OHKO move thing in RBY and why X items are banned there. Thing is, we've allowed X items so far, and banning them now would mean reworking things from scratch. 2HKOing to 3HKOing bosses are impressive. I have not tried it against mooks yet. What is your moveset? Hyp / Fire Punch / Shadow Ball / ???Gengar, Golem, Machamp, Slowking stuff.
Also, lack of quad weakness to Water is pretty nice. So is Rock Slide at Lv. 28. 70/65 isn't awesome in terms of special bulk, but it's no liability either.Curious as to why Sudowoodo would have to be dropped, especially that low. Its great Attack and physical bulk mitigate its low speed. The beginning moveset of STAB + Low Kick cover the whole game (excluding Nidoking and Nidoqueen) and can be further improved by Dig.
This reminds me of another issue I thought: should slowpoke and slowpoke (trade) be the same tier? Slowpoke evokes at level 37, meaning you'll JUST be getting fully evolved stats and Ice Punch around Clair (admittedly perfect timing but still). In my incomplete Crystal run, my Slowpoke was already starting to lag a bit before I evolved it around level 25 (King's Rock is available immediately after the 4th gym with fairly minor backtracking).The reason Slowpoke even gets ranked high is because of Slowpoke Well. Early Slowpoke's performances is just unimpressive.
You can catch wild Slowbros in the Slowpoke Well after getting Surf, which is the same time you're going to get the King's Rock.This reminds me of another issue I thought: should slowpoke and slowpoke (trade) be the same tier? Slowpoke evokes at level 37, meaning you'll JUST be getting fully evolved stats and Ice Punch around Clair (admittedly perfect timing but still). In my incomplete Crystal run, my Slowpoke was already starting to lag a bit before I evolved it around level 25 (King's Rock is available immediately after the 4th gym with fairly minor backtracking).
12 or so levels of difference between getting Bro and King (and being stuck with Poke until then) is big in a game with as limited a level curve as this. Anyone else think it's worthy of a tier difference?
I wasn't aware, but that's more of an endorsement of Slowbro than Slowpoke.You can catch wild Slowbros in the Slowpoke Well after getting Surf, which is the same time you're going to get the King's Rock.
That was also the same way we measure Golduck, Tentacruel and Seadra.I wasn't aware, but that's more of an endorsement of Slowbro than Slowpoke.
I definitely believe we need to list the Pokemon in the actual form we obtain them.I wasn't aware, but that's more of an endorsement of Slowbro than Slowpoke.
Not to start an argument, but actually there have been Pokemon that have cases for being gotten later.I definitely believe we need to list the Pokemon in the actual form we obtain them.
Slowpoke sucks (okay, not really, but he isn't great either) and we shouldn't want people to get the wrong idea.
I do not contest any of that. I'm just saying to note that.Not to start an argument, but actually there have been Pokemon that have cases for being gotten later.
In BW1 Purrloin was absolutely one of these cases. No Dark STAB until Pursuit at level 15 is just pitiful and it is far and away the weakest early thing you could use outside of the infamous Pansear; when I can think of redeeming qualities for both Pidove and Woobat your earlygame is on a new level of abysmal.
Heck, even Pansear itself had a case for being used later if it wasn't straight up given to you if you chose Oshawott; any time you can minimize using 30 BP garbage STAB Incinerate is absolutely a positive (those 12 levels to Flame Burst feel like 12 years).
Yamask is a mon that outside of Elesa and Clay could also be caught later even if the list assumes you catch it early on. It's absurdly weak until it evolves and while it still has coverage problems as Cofagrigus it isn't working from 55 Special Attack anymore (lower than Audino and lol Servine).
Even outside of BW1 there are Pokemon like this in DPPT. Oh look, I can get Meditite near Eterna City - yeah it's garbage because it gets Force Palm in 15 painful levels and is stuck with the likes of Rock Smash, Confusion and Hidden Power until then - just catch it at Celestic Town around the time it gets all of its good moves. Bronzor also kinda sucks until Bronzong: base 24 offenses are legendarily low even with Extrasensory.
You get the point. But yeah, some Pokemon really do suck earlygame.
I don't have an opinion on vitamins but I think it would give the one who benefits a huge advantage. Not sure how much of the vitamins that you are using too.Random Passerby what's your policy on vitamins? should they remain unused or can people buy them if they have a money surplus? i have 250k pokédollars and nothing to spend them on, for example
Do you have an opinion on major battles that could make or break tier?I don't have an opinion on vitamins but I think it would give the one who benefits a huge advantage. Not sure how much of the vitamins that you are using too.
i bought enough to cap and test on everyone, which were around 7 Proteins and 7 Carbos - however it doesn't seem to make a difference, and ultimately it's not something we can assume on every playthrough (because some teams might need GC TMs for example), which is what made me doubtful to begin withI don't have an opinion on vitamins but I think it would give the one who benefits a huge advantage. Not sure how much of the vitamins that you are using too.