After banning Iron Hands a week ago, the UU council has continued to monitor the Pokemon that were Under Inspection before and have listened to the feedback from the community about what was voted on and what they would like to see us vote on. We have conducted another vote this weekend featuring the following Pokemon: Hydreigon, Skeledirge, Galarian Moltres, and Hisuian Lilligant from the prior Under Inspection, and Galarian Zapdos and Meowscarada as Pokemon the community wanted us to vote on. Normally, we would’ve put up another Under Inspection post in advance, but both Tier Leaders were busy this week (they also chose to abstain from the vote) and UUWC planning got in the way for others before the vote was able to be organized. The results of the vote are below:
Meeting the required quickban cutoff of 6/8 members voting Ban, Hisuian Lilligant has been banned from SV UU! At first, Hisuian Lilligant flew a bit under the radar with attention focusing on Pokémon like Iron Hands, Hydreigon, and Skeledirge, but it has quickly soared to become an extremely dangerous sweeper since the new drops. Both the ban of Iron Hands and more time seeing and using Hisuian Lilligant changed Lilligant’s verdict from being not banned a week ago to banned now.
Hisuian Lilligant was banned for a number of reasons. Access to Victory Dance, an extremely dangerous move that gives Lilligant a boost to all of Attack, Defense, and Speed, makes it very difficult to answer, as with a boost it outspeeds most of the metagame barring a few Choice Scarf users and the Defense boost is valuable in letting it safely initially set up on slower foes like Kleavor, tank priority better from Scizor, and allow it to live other hits if missing with Hustle. Hustle has not proven to be a hindrance on Hisuian Lilligant, as its accuracy is still a very potent 88% and the power boost offsets the loss of an item like Life Orb or Leftovers. Concerns of Hisuian Lilligant’s frailty were brought up, but its somewhat useful typing against common Pokémon like Meowscarada, Hippowdon, Tyranitar, and the bulky Water-types has allowed Hisuian Lilligant to generate many setup opportunities through tanking hits and forced switches. Tera Ghost also helps Lilligant immensely in getting more setup opportunities with a better defensive typing, turning weaknesses into neutral hits or resistances. Tera Blast Ghost compliments Hisuian Lilligant’s STAB combination to be nearly unwallable, wiping out foes that resist Lilligant’s STAB combo such as Talonflame, Gengar, Tornadus-Therian, and Galarian Slowbro. Skeledirge can get blasted by Tera Blast Ghost on the switch, and outside of it the Pokémon left to check it after a boost are bulky Salamence, bulky Moltres, Enamorus-Therian, and Overqwil, most of which aren’t very splashable or still unreliable at answering it. Hisuian Lilligant is far too dangerous of a sweeper in the metagame, having few reliable methods of counterplay and being extremely difficult to take on to the point where counterplay for many is hoping it misses, and as such the UU council has voted to ban Hisuian Lilligant. Tagging Marty or Kris to please remove Hisuian Lilligant from UU.
Skeledirge and Galarian Zapdos got one ban vote each and they will continue to be monitored alongside the rest of the Pokemon voted on. For now, since the very problematic Pokémon are out of the metagame, the UU council will focus on developments during UUWC as well as developments over time in general before taking further action. Still, please share your experiences and thoughts in the metagame discussion thread and we’re looking forward to seeing the tier being explored and developed!
| Pokemon | Amane Misa | avarice | Hariyana Grande | IP | Lily | Lyssa | Monky | Moutemoute | pdt | TSR |
Galarian Moltres
| DNB | DNB | DNB | ABS | ABS | DNB | DNB | DNB | DNB | DNB |
Galarian Zapdos
| DNB | DNB | DNB | ABS | ABS | Ban | DNB | DNB | DNB | DNB |
Hisuian Lilligant
| DNB | Ban | Ban | ABS | ABS | DNB | Ban | Ban | Ban | Ban |
Hydreigon
| DNB | DNB | DNB | ABS | ABS | DNB | DNB | DNB | DNB | DNB |
Meowscarada
| DNB | DNB | DNB | ABS | ABS | DNB | DNB | DNB | DNB | DNB |
Skeledirge
| DNB | DNB | DNB | ABS | ABS | DNB | DNB | Ban | DNB | DNB |
Meeting the required quickban cutoff of 6/8 members voting Ban, Hisuian Lilligant has been banned from SV UU! At first, Hisuian Lilligant flew a bit under the radar with attention focusing on Pokémon like Iron Hands, Hydreigon, and Skeledirge, but it has quickly soared to become an extremely dangerous sweeper since the new drops. Both the ban of Iron Hands and more time seeing and using Hisuian Lilligant changed Lilligant’s verdict from being not banned a week ago to banned now.
Hisuian Lilligant was banned for a number of reasons. Access to Victory Dance, an extremely dangerous move that gives Lilligant a boost to all of Attack, Defense, and Speed, makes it very difficult to answer, as with a boost it outspeeds most of the metagame barring a few Choice Scarf users and the Defense boost is valuable in letting it safely initially set up on slower foes like Kleavor, tank priority better from Scizor, and allow it to live other hits if missing with Hustle. Hustle has not proven to be a hindrance on Hisuian Lilligant, as its accuracy is still a very potent 88% and the power boost offsets the loss of an item like Life Orb or Leftovers. Concerns of Hisuian Lilligant’s frailty were brought up, but its somewhat useful typing against common Pokémon like Meowscarada, Hippowdon, Tyranitar, and the bulky Water-types has allowed Hisuian Lilligant to generate many setup opportunities through tanking hits and forced switches. Tera Ghost also helps Lilligant immensely in getting more setup opportunities with a better defensive typing, turning weaknesses into neutral hits or resistances. Tera Blast Ghost compliments Hisuian Lilligant’s STAB combination to be nearly unwallable, wiping out foes that resist Lilligant’s STAB combo such as Talonflame, Gengar, Tornadus-Therian, and Galarian Slowbro. Skeledirge can get blasted by Tera Blast Ghost on the switch, and outside of it the Pokémon left to check it after a boost are bulky Salamence, bulky Moltres, Enamorus-Therian, and Overqwil, most of which aren’t very splashable or still unreliable at answering it. Hisuian Lilligant is far too dangerous of a sweeper in the metagame, having few reliable methods of counterplay and being extremely difficult to take on to the point where counterplay for many is hoping it misses, and as such the UU council has voted to ban Hisuian Lilligant. Tagging Marty or Kris to please remove Hisuian Lilligant from UU.
Skeledirge and Galarian Zapdos got one ban vote each and they will continue to be monitored alongside the rest of the Pokemon voted on. For now, since the very problematic Pokémon are out of the metagame, the UU council will focus on developments during UUWC as well as developments over time in general before taking further action. Still, please share your experiences and thoughts in the metagame discussion thread and we’re looking forward to seeing the tier being explored and developed!