According to data dumps hoopa's new forme is called Hoopa Unbound and its normal forme is called Hoopa Confined
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Pokémon Hoopa
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The -Def side effect on Hyperspace Fury pretty much kills any chance of a Scarf set being viable.
Edit: unless you want to settle for the weaker Dark Pulse, though it would miss many useful KO's with that.
Edit: unless you want to settle for the weaker Dark Pulse, though it would miss many useful KO's with that.
... why? It's defence is already ass, it loses practically nothing.
I guess it looses against Pursuit users since you can't switch out easier.
Not like it's going to live a Pursuit from anything strong anyways lol
Hoopa Unbound is neutral to pursuit though, it might live even after the drop.
From what we understand, Hyperspace Hole is replaced with Hyperspace Fury whenever you change formes (and vice versa), a bit like how hydro pump/overheat/etc are replaced when you change between rotom formes.
252+ Atk Dread Plate Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. -1 0 HP / 0- Def Hoopa: 424-501 (140.8 - 166.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Dread Plate Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Hoopa: 282-333 (93.6 - 110.6%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
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Looks like the data miners were wrong - hyperspace fury is actually physical:
http://i.imgur.com/uHeT5Xh.png
http://i.imgur.com/uHeT5Xh.png
No, that was the case before. You might be confusing it with Hyperspace Hole, a special 80 BP Psychic move that is also exclusive to Hoopa.
primal ofc. it will revert into a fire/water/grass type.
Does this thing get Sucker Punch? Cause it could actually do something if it got that. something like
Hoopa-U@Life Orb
EVs: To Be tweaked to Speed Creep stuff
Sucker Punch
Hyperspace Fury/Knock Off
Zen Headbutt (does it get that?)
filler
if it doesn't get Sucker Punch, Scarf kinda works...but it'll lose viability fast, with so many quick Psychics and bulky Fairys running around. when MegaGarde is considered quick to you, you have a problem.
Hoopa-U@Life Orb
EVs: To Be tweaked to Speed Creep stuff
Sucker Punch
Hyperspace Fury/Knock Off
Zen Headbutt (does it get that?)
filler
if it doesn't get Sucker Punch, Scarf kinda works...but it'll lose viability fast, with so many quick Psychics and bulky Fairys running around. when MegaGarde is considered quick to you, you have a problem.
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Follow-up question: Who the heck decided to give it Gunk Shot as a tutor move?
I really can't comprehend why this design was green-lit. If GameFreak hopes to replicate the Jynx controversy, it looks like they're on the good way to succeed.
Speaking of Hyperspace Fury, now that we know that it's actually physical, will you use it over Knock Off? Hyperspace Fury has the advantage of piercing through Protect, always being strong(even against Mega Evolutions and itemless Pokémon in general) and fucking with evasion spamming assholes in battle spot, but Knock Off removes items and doesn't lower your defense. Also what will it be of specially oriented sets? Will they still be viable?
I'd say Hyperspace Fury has a far more powerful application than Knock Off on Hoopa, since it really doesn't give a shit about utility. It just wants to hit everything hard and fast, so it doesn't give a shit about defence drops and knocking off items.
That and the fact that if it has to use it two times in a row on the same Pokemon, the second hit is not weakened. I'd prefer Hyperspace Fury as well, though they're both perfectly viable I guess.
It does not. It's just like shaymin where you can have both moves in either form. However, Hyperspace Fury fails if you're not Unbound Mode. "But Hoopa can't use it the way it is now!".
You revert if you go back into the box or if three days pass while in the party. You can change back at any time though.
Well that's... incredibly random.
What about putting it in the Battle Box?
Yeah, I know you can have both at the same time now, I didn't know (and I don't think anyone knew) when I posted that.
Battle box reverts it too, unfortunately. Similar to shaymin-s where it reverts at night time or if you put it in the PC.
The in-game plot dump says that Hoopa is freed from his Prison Bottle only for three days.
I hate that. Battle Box should let it stay forever. D:
This is Probaly the most laughable legend I have ever seen.
It's quad weak to knock off and Hass poor defeses. However, it does hit like a truck. This is backed up by a "very impressive" (read sarcastically) 70 base speed! This means it is outspead by every decent dark type in Ou, forcing it to run scarf. Keep in mind, if you want a scarfed special attacker, you could always just run latios, gengar, or hydreigon. All are much, much better options then this joke. It's mega evolution may give it some hope, however.
It's quad weak to knock off and Hass poor defeses. However, it does hit like a truck. This is backed up by a "very impressive" (read sarcastically) 70 base speed! This means it is outspead by every decent dark type in Ou, forcing it to run scarf. Keep in mind, if you want a scarfed special attacker, you could always just run latios, gengar, or hydreigon. All are much, much better options then this joke. It's mega evolution may give it some hope, however.
Hoopa doesn't get a mega evolution, it gets an alternate forme.
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