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NOC Hope+1 Game Thread

for the ppl who've never seen me wall when i'm writing this out i'm talking to myself so don't get confused by that when you read it

I'm alright with this. What I'm not alright with is the Poseidon being VT shit. Now that was unprovoked.
This is in response to Metal Sonic's opening vote on them, the second and third posts in the game respectively and it's an odd thing to respond to. Seems innocent enough, just making conversation, but why feel the need to respond at all? Just feeling uncomfortable by the early vote? Or self-conscious of being judged for the appearance of the early post? The latter is usually scum indicative, this is something to watch for.

I town read Metal Sonic for this postmalone.
This also seems like a very quick tr to throw out, even as a joke, meta referencing to the past game gives an easy way to buddy up to a stronger player.

Apricity's vote here
vote caffeineboost
looks better in this context

Hey guys, I'm actually town this game finally.
I think I actually believe you for the sole fact you haven't made me tunnel you yet. Needs more crazy crackpot theories that make everyone else think you're scum to be a town!FH game tho

Nvm this is worse vote duskfall98

The irony of this post which itself is overly verbose to try and demonstrate towniness is almost as ironic as me getting a ticket for warning another driver about a police speed trap by flashing my high beams and signalling a second police cruiser
I don't feel as bad about this as I did on page 2, it's probably just stuffiness associated with unfamiliarity. No longer worth a basis for a read.

i am mafia

vote myself
Pretty sure like 96% of people that do this are telling the truth but also pretty sure this in range of Jalmont's town meta so

Here marks the first time where MS drops an empty scumread on me
Haven't really given it much thought honestly
Yep apathetic Jalmont is town Jalmont

I don't get why people get so mouthy right when the game begins.

But that's my first thoughts/reads and it's way too soon to make conclusions, I want to see how this goes and try to pull the best stunt possible.
Either pure town or newb scum, no other options

Here marks the second time MS drops an empty scum read on me
I feel like scum wouldn't make a post like this so early when they can still ride the rvs wave and not avoid committing to opinions
This in response to CBs readslist but I said this earlier that early in the game is the exact time a scum would want to do that when positions are fluid and they can gain easy town cred. Not sure what to make of the CB/MS interaction at this point, CB has a quick flip of opinion on MS in going to lynch him page two while MS is mostly ignoring him in favour of targeting the stronger players while also scum reading. Not feeling like a scum team is very likely here based on how much they've focused on each other, but could very well be one scum here with the other pressuring or OMGUSing.

Caffeine why are your two towns Texas and...moody.
Good question

At least pressure me!
I hope people get the irony of these posts responding to apricity about his vote. The joke is that I'm obviously pressured enough to respond. Wonderful comedy this. Reasoning seems fair enough but still a tiny bit shaky.
I'm not really saying much in this post, so to distract from that I shall seamlessly change the topic without anybody noticing that I've done so... ah shit nm.
Unofficial vote count:
2: Duskfall, Apricity

1: Texas, MetalSonic, Jalmont, FH
Everybody else hasn't got a vote on them.

I do think it'd be p. nice if there was some function on the sheet which did this count for us but it's a lot of effort to go into. That vote count is based on the data on the sheet as well as any votes after post 85 (the last post accounted for on the sheet) so if there are any discrepancies please inform us all.
The irony in this is that CB is reacting as if he feels like he's under pressure

At this point I'm thinking that I'm seeing a lot of apricity and not getting much from him which makes me push him towards null-scum. He's doing a lot of talking with players about things that I consider in the realm of mafia theory and like he's trying to coach the newer players through their reads which is a good look but the fact that I'm not getting anything off of him that suggests where his mindset is at or that indicates a purpose is sketchy.
Me no likey this vote


Also ragmatho made reads on town/scum but without any reasoning. Might not mean much in terms of the game but idk.
I like this take on MS's vote on apricity, didn't think much of it at the time but looks very opportunistic in hindsight

Whydon commented on ragmatho's lack of reasoning but has said he doesnt like metal sonic or FH without any reasoning, a bit suspicious of him as it stands.

On the other hand I'm pretty sure FH and caffeine are town because their points have been pretty logical to me, but they could just be good at finding holes I guess.

Leaning towards town with moody and jay also but they haven't posted enough for me to get a strong enough read. My gut kind of just tells me they feel legit right now.
This feels towny

ok let's get one thing right here at least

Jul 1, 2018
fh are you bussing i'd prefer not to lynch you but if we are bussing i'm going to grab all the credit i can

This is what i posted when you started geting strung up last game by asek. You were not the designated day 1 bus like you said last game. You were just fucked because you were transparent.

I town read you this game because last game you were flailing and disinterested and I don't see that here so I'm going to talk to you like you're town. I didn't scumread you last game because it's my style. I scumread you alst game because you were getting strung up by asek and so I asked you if you were ok with me bussing, you said that you rather I didn't, which is why end of day 1 and 2 I busted my fucking testicles trying to save you

I don't bus as scum without permission

This all above is kind of personal, I feel like when FH said in postgame that "people did'nt understand what his motive was" or whatever I felt kind of slighted because honestly his motive was never to get bussed, it just turned out that way because the entirety of the fucking game read him as such. Anyways please get this through your head.

The other thing that kind of worries me about this post but not really is this comment on caffeineboost. 1. you don't know enough about my alignemtna t the time of this post to reasonably start making associative tells, 2. "wordy without saying anything" is literally why we got a cb mislynch last game and you should know that

That being said a cursory understanding of your play last game informs me that you are town here so instead of pushing you i guess all i have to say it fuck off
I feel the righteous indignation behind this. Reasoning for sussing duskfall in 141 is fairly rational though I don't know if I agree that there was intent behind it.
I DO NOT LIKE CAFFEINEBOOST!

i think that he is scum trying to gain cred on the back of a town mislynch!

i think this because he is being very awkward in starting out with a scumread on metal sonic, putting me in lean scum, and then not making an effort to follow through with the game! go read the last game we played in, greek mythology. go look at how cb questions and is hesitant about things and feels like a fish out of water because he is uninformed. He does not have this quality this game, and therefore I believe that he is in fact informed! His tone is compeltely different form what he sounded like last game. I can't even remember when he gave readlists. I scumread CB because I think his posting is fabricated
Very much agree with this thought about CB tho

you don't have a prior trajectory on cb
+1 (re: MS calling cb scum)
also I'm questionable for eod so yeahhhhhhhh
This is the last of 10 posts and I'm not quoting them all, tl;dr is that I like where Jay's head is at, a lot of what he's saying is showing that he's thinking about the game at a deeper level. It's possible that he's pushing a deeper agenda but I'm not seeing anything too overt. Comfortablee with this as town for d1.

Didn’t expect d1 to be this active when I signed up lol, I have been following along but I had to pack and stuff. I’ll be more active in the thread in my free time once I get of the plane sorry people!
6 pages pls

Lol 12 hours

Vote apricity

Caffeine tomorrow
And here's the out of nowhere switch to the lead wagon after sitting on me and CB all day. Everything from MS is suggesting to me that he's angling to lynch a stronger player d1 in an otherwise open field.

i'm actually really happy with a ragmotho lynch right now because i think there's something really wrong 1. about his vote and 2. about the fact that everyone scumreads it but nobody is voting on it

typically when 2 happens it's a scum being scummy but their partners don't want to call them out too hard
tfw no one else cares about your read, pushing apricity to null town here, between his earlier tone tells and the tone tells off this semi tunnel I'm pretty comfortable with this
Lots of people laying low and not leaving much of an impression yet, I don't remember even reading a post from itzviper/ragmatho in particular
apricity's stream of consciousness haha gotcha posts have seemed over the top and a bit awkward early in the day
apricity/duskfall interaction page 4 did not dissipate that impression but duskfall came off as having smelled blood in the water with their "I did not ask you X question because you would've sidestepped it anyway" argument
On the same page FH states that he thinks cb is mafia but does not vote him or follow up on that. Jay also pops in and doesn't say much but asks FH to elaborate on his one liner. Jay somehow looks kind of good here without actually saying much

Texas has seemed underwhelming so far, didn't like his entrance much and feels less of a driving force than usual
FH page 5 had me like ??? but having no idea what he's talking about and getting triggered by him is usually how I recognize his town game so i actually slightly tr his nonsensical shade slinging here
FH still doesn't vote cb and goes after apricity instead on that page
Ragmatho actually makes a post and gives a bunch of stances on people unprompted but with zero reasoning and a cryptic "as far as I know"
Changedwawmen makes a passing comment as well

I give up on commenting every page like that actually

MS/FH seem townish for bad meta reasons
apricity seems sketchy for mostly tonal reasons
CB lean townish for wifom reasons
Duskfall nullish but his argument against apricity p4 seemed disingenuous
Changedwawmen/ragmatho have been spectators so far and I didn't like their posts up to page 6
Others I mostly don't remember

vote changedwawmen

unsure I'll still be around at deadline btw
...Why are you voting a rando 6h to deadline...?

some whydon posts yadda yadda very pure


/end wall

/jalmont murders me for wallposting

The biggest thing I need to resolve is MS vs CB, after the way they reacted to each other around the start of the game and then their progressions throughout the rest of the way I'm pretty sure there's one scum in this pairing, with MS looking way worse at this point in time. I'll be lynching in here today.

Town: Sciatic Nerve, Whydon, Jay
Prob Town: Former, Wawmen (or newbscum here)
Null town: apricity, duskfall
Null: Viper, ragmatho, Moody
Scummy: CaffBoost
Scum: Metal Sonic
 
Unofficial vote count

Metal Sonic (6): CaffeineBoost, Jay (FT) Flush, Texas Cloverleaf, apricity, Duskfall98. Former Hope

apricity (2): ragmatho, Metal Sonic

Changed Wawmen (1): MoodyCloud
Jalmont (1): Jalmont
Former Hope (1): ItzViper482

Not Voting: ChangedWawmen, Whydon

no hammer iirc otherwise L-1
 
Texas Cloverleaf Haven't read the entire post yet but I am going to immediately say that those first two posts were jokes. At the time I was completely null on everybody, I wasn't seriously TR'ing MS.
Reading the rest of the post now but the serious posts from myself start from my MS vote.
 
The irony in this is that CB is reacting as if he feels like he's under pressure
I am so glad that the irony was not wasted.
Most active effort without raising suspicion. Nothing screams town for me but they're the players I currently trust the most, even if it is just a bit.
Before the argument between Dusk and yourself, I also leaned Town on Dusk.
Here's the bit where I answered apricity's question. You left that out. Idk why.

No changes on reads. I like the wall of text Texas posted but the timing of it was bad. It happened right after somebody pointed out Texas wasn't doing this as he usually does. No change though because I don't remember Texas doing this last game and the good outweighs the bad.

Interested to see what MS claims, if he claims at all. There is something about this game mode though that makes me think claims could be a bit sketchy. I don't see any reason why a power role of any sort at this stage would claim anything but VT. I think that's the point of this game mode but I might be wrong.
 
I am so glad that the irony was not wasted.

Here's the bit where I answered apricity's question. You left that out. Idk why.

No changes on reads. I like the wall of text Texas posted but the timing of it was bad. It happened right after somebody pointed out Texas wasn't doing this as he usually does. No change though because I don't remember Texas doing this last game and the good outweighs the bad.

Interested to see what MS claims, if he claims at all. There is something about this game mode though that makes me think claims could be a bit sketchy. I don't see any reason why a power role of any sort at this stage would claim anything but VT. I think that's the point of this game mode but I might be wrong.
i said i'd be doing it around now like 6 hours ago when i was at work
 
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