House Rule: Slightly extended OU

Would you battle somone if both had the option to have ONE Uber pokemon on there team

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Mr.Fuji

I asked this in simple question thread but I feel i won't gather enough opinion, and it'l get lost in the pages somewhere so this is basically what I want some feedback on in posts and the poll.

Heres the basic rule: You're allowed ONE pokemon from the Uber tier on your team EXCEPT Arceus, Darkrai, Wobbuffet

My reason for excluding Darkrai and Arceus is that they haven't been released anywhere except japan and in Arceus' case, nowhere. Wobb's reason is the same reason it was moved up to ubers in the first place, I feel it has no place in OU.

I understand certain ubers could be spammed, but like I stated in the question thread, taking down ONE uber isnt that hard with 5 other OU's, and the right team setup.

This is just a thing I'd like to imply when I battle somone, giving them the OPTION to go by this rule or not. If people took to it, it could be some new battling standard, like you would ask for now, a standard battle, item clause etc, this could be EOU =P.

Would people mind? Care? or Say hell no? That's what the poll is for. Opinions?
 
Deoxys-A kills everything. Period. Game over.

EDIT: Going into more detail with an anecdote: What would you rather have? One Lv. 12 Bidoof or six Lv. 2 Bidoofs?
 
I laughed. I'm not sure why. Maybe I just imagined ScarfOgre ripping through teams, or the fact that you're banning Darkrai despite being considered legitimate in the majority, or the fact that you have no idea how or why these ubers become ubers in the first place, or maybe because you banned Wobba just because you don't like it. That sounds right.

Plus, all uber is all you need when planning a MixedKingdra sweep. That thing definitely would be a top OU with a Drizzler in OU.

Cooper said:
Deoxys-A kills everything. Period. Game over.
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Spiritomb. Period. Game over for Deoxys-A.
 
I really wouldn't care. Blissey exists for a reason. You can always sash something to take down that one pesky fragile uber and use walls to counter others.
 
wtf lol wtf

Even Blissey needs SDef EV's to compete in Ubers. Anything would 2HKO it otherwise. Special Walls would all be rendered worthless, and priority moves would run rampant.

You didn't even mention Shaymin, which hasn't been released anywhere. That indicates a poorly thought-out pseudo-metagame.

Do some research before you recommend something this gamebreaking.
 
articuno1508 said:
wtf lol wtf

Even Blissey needs SDef EV's to compete in Ubers. Anything would 2HKO it otherwise. Special Walls would all be rendered worthless, and priority moves would run rampant.

You didn't even mention Shaymin, which hasn't been released anywhere. That indicates a poorly thought-out pseudo-metagame.

Do some research before you recommend something this gamebreaking.
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You fail to realize this isn't something I'm suggesting all of smogon to follow as a definite new metagame. It's an opinion question, what you would say if somone were to ask of you to battle them within this rule. It's on a personal battler to battler scale, not forum-wide.
 
If what you're suggesting is to have Ubers compete with OU pokemon, why not just play Ubers? There are plenty of OU pokemon that can function there, especially weather users.
 
Cooper said:
If what you're suggesting is to have Ubers compete with OU pokemon, why not just play Ubers? There are plenty of OU pokemon that can function there, especially weather users.
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Yea i thought of this too but Ubers is specifically tailored for Uber pokemon, the difference here is having one and no more than one. I know what your saying and all but I think the Uber environment is still very different from this house rule im talking about.
 
A lot of other websites (gamefaqs/neoseeker) have people who ask for tons of these battles. They always end mostly the same way. Like this "I killed your uber with my scarfed exploder, hahaha. Now nothing has any chanse at all of stopping my sweep.". Seriously, 1st off, raindance teams would melt so much face its not even funny. the auto rain is too broken in OU. Almost no ubers can be reliably walled by non ubers. People who play with this rule are almost as dumb as people who play with the "no ledgends" rule.
 
Superbro said:
People who play with this rule are almost as dumb as people who play with the "no ledgends" rule.
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I believe theres ways to play it smart too and not just go into battle with your standard OU team and a random out of place lugia thrown in. But then again not everyone would do that of course.
 
Choice. Scarf. Kyogre.

It will rape. So will Deoxys. Every team would be Rain Dance. Not fun. No point.
 
TBH I'd much rather just use a Sleep Talk/Rest/Surf/Calm Mind Kyogre. Seriously, fuck off Blissey. If Scarf Kyogre was the norm and the 8000 Rain based teams that would follow them, you'll start seeing random ass mono Scarf Electric teams or something. Might as well max out its HP/Def, make it as beefy as Swampert and more so than Milotic, while still raping the shit out of every damn thing.
 
Voted "you can if you want" because it'll switch things up for a little bit and make the game interesting. If I was bored with normal OU, I could switch over to the 1 uber option and test my team against teams centralized around that one uber. However Deoxys, Lati@s and Kyogre would tear through most things, and I see Dialga being a rather difficult task to take down (max attack Adamant CB Dugtrio can't OHKO 252 standard HP Dialga, though you get 97% at best).
 
That clause doesn't work because most ubers are countered by other ubers. So, if you want to use just one uber, use it in Uber Battles.
 
Portugeez said:
That clause doesn't work because most ubers are countered by other ubers. So, if you want to use just one uber, use it in Uber Battles.
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Well I think the smart way to play the clause would be to get the other 5 OU to try and cover what you would think to be the most common Uber your opponent will use. Not even all 5 maybe just 3, the other 2 can be utility. And unless you tell your opponent what Uber it is, you have no way of knowing so it's kind of random what setup your gonna be given.

This all applies to of course if BOTH people want to play the clause. I think not playing it, and playing somebody who is, would be fun, to see how well your team could fare against a mighty Uber.
 
So make me a team that counters: Mixed Dialga, Scarf Kyogre, Deoxys-A, Every wall in the game (including Lugia and other ubers), and every OU threat. But don't forget, you can only use one uber.
 
Portugeez said:
So make me a team that counters: Mixed Dialga, Scarf Kyogre, Deoxys-A, Every wall in the game (including Lugia and other ubers), and every OU threat. But don't forget, you can only use one uber.
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No I don't too for you or anyone else's benefit =P. One part of it is the unpredictability of what your opponent will use. The uber isn't neccessarily the trump card among the other 5 OU's, or it shouldn't be. I would think though, most OU threats are taken down with things built for Uber threats.

This isn't a counter war anyway, you just gotta take down the biggest threat your facing with what you have. If you happen to have an actual counter than good for you, but if not, play your dudes as best as they can be.

Although.. some tactics I see having to be utilized here are revenge killing, choice scarfers, and toxic, which works in any metagame anyway, but with the sweeping and walling available in ubers, your gonna need it. But after allll of the shit you could do, its just ONE Uber, how hard can it be, I have to test this clause out with people anyway..
 
I agree with that rule. People should build a team around the Uber and will have to consider things like ScarfOgre, Mixed Dialga or Mixed Rayquaza, it would be an even more offensive game, but that's fine once in a while, imo.

But now I realize how much fear Ubers inspire it's not even funny...
 
Well, you got yourself a team with 3 walls.
Now counter Tyranitar, Salamence, Sub-seeders and Heracross.
Good luck on getting sweepers on your team.


EDIT: My point is- it's already difficult to try to counter everything. Putting ubers in the situation would make it worse.
 
What the hell is up with all the 'LET'S HAVE UBERS IN OU LAWLS' threads, there's been at least 3 or 4 in the past week. I'm sick and tired of them. They're in ubers for a damn fucking reason. As has been mentioned before, Deoxys-A switches in, game over OU, or let's all spam priority attacks. And I haven't done the calcs, but Spiritomb isn't going to take Deoxys-A that lightly. Same with every other uber except maybe Deoxys-S, which is being tested. So many things will be rendered obsolete when a team has to consider "Ok, what is that one uber going to be, I'm so scared".

To put it simply? My answer is NO.

Again, threads like these piss me off, and I don't even play OU. Speaking of that, I play BL for a reason. I want to use BL Pokemon in UU, and the reason BLs aren't allowed in UU is because they unbalance it. But UUs are still used and the relationship between OU and ubers should be the same.
 
Gay idea, nobody good would play with this, it would centralize the metgame... And why no Darkrai... Sleep Clause really limits it. Deoxys-A and Kyogre are much harder to stop. Like Age Of Kings said, they are in Ubers for a reason! They centralize the metagame to the point of everybody using them... The idea might work if each side could use only one uber. Kind of like the Deoxys-E Cup only they would decide on a different uber. Still sounds stupid.

Say NO! to changes in the metagame!!!
 
Rhykune said:
...The idea might work if each side could use only one uber.
Say NO! to changes in the metagame!!!
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Read the poll question........and once again this isn't a poll to see if we can get a new metagame started, its an opinion of what you would say to a battle like this.
 
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