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Huntail (Analysis) Done Yo
- Thread starter danilo
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Uhh, I mentioned Hydreigon as Huntail's recipient that could beat Celebi and Rotom-W, not as a counter to Huntail x_x;;
You skipped a lot of the details I provided on the Checks and Counters section, which worries me. Checks and Counters section must be thorough, descriptive, and well-organized, so please keep this in mind when writing this analysis. Otherwise, you're just giving more job to twash and others (including AG and me), who are revamping the Checks and Counter sections on-site.
Do your best, QC Approved (1/3)
QC Approved [2/3]
Funny how people seem to think Huntail + Gorebyss is a joke.
QC Approved [2/3]
Funny how people seem to think Huntail + Gorebyss is a joke.
DO THEY REALLY???
Bumping for an approval/reject etc etc
Thanks, Sir :)
Good start, though, but it needs a little more revision.
- Magic Bounce does not affect Perish Song, since it affects both players.
- You could note in your Celebi blurb that it also has access to Perish Song
- Quagsire is not only vulnerable to Grass moves, but also LO-enhanced offensive moves / special moves, such as LO Close Combat from Terrakion and special moves from Hydreigon. Mold Breaker Haxorus also ignores Unaware.
- Remember that people read the Counters section to beat Huntail - not a Huntail user trying to cover up Huntail's counters, which is the vibe I'm getting from your section. Huntail surviving SE special hits with Screen support is not "fortunate," and Espeon bouncing back your Roar is not "fantastic."
Good start, though, but it needs a little more revision.
This is not a BP Chain team, but a quick pass team. BP chains involves more than 1 baton passers.
Like I said, the reader is trying to COUNTER Huntail, not trying to use it. Caution the readers that Huntail would most likely be coupled with Screens, making it harder to dispatch.
Again, the reader is trying to counter Huntail / Smash Pass. Quagsire not being able to counter the recipient is not "fortunate." Also Draco Meteor halves Hydreigon's special attack, which is not ideal for a Smash Pass recipient, so change that to Dragon Pulse. You also forgot to mention about Haxorus & Mold Breaker.
EDIT: Okay, nothing else to add.
checking bcos Sir kept bitching on IRC D:<
[Overview]
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<p>{Remove Space}In the 4th generation, Huntail could only dream of being used in the OU tier. Luckily, in the the 5th generation, the Deep Sea Pokemon got a wonderful gift, in the form of Shell Smash. Huntail is one of three Pokemon in with access to both Shell Smash and Baton Pass. Once you factor in a good Defense stat, a decent Special Defense stat, and good typing, Huntail can pass boosts like it's no tomorrow. Unfortunately, Huntail is not without faults.; Huntail is utterly outclassed by his counterpart, Gorebyss, in the aspect of being a Shell Smash sweeper, due to Huntail's shallow offensive move pool. Additionally, Gorebyss Huntail has a terrible Speed stat, so Huntail is out{Remove Space}sped by the majority of the OU tier, unless Huntail has already used Shell Smash.{Remove Space}</p>
[SET]
name: Smash Pass
move 1: Shell Smash
move 2: Baton Pass
move 3: Waterfall
move 4: Substitute
item: White Herb
ability: Swift Swim
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 24 Def / 232 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
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<p>{Remove Space}This set is Huntail's best shot at competing with the big boys in OU. The combination of Shell Smash and Baton Pass is the main reason to use Huntail, as passing a ridiculous boosts to a sweeper is which then becomes rather difficult to beat. Additionally, White Herb is used to negate the negative stat drops of Shell Smash, ensuring that Huntail and the Shell Smash receiver retain their bulk. (Moved to AC) Waterfall is a reliable STAB move, that can be used to hit hard after a Shell Smash. Substitute is used to shield Huntail from status. Additionally, if Huntail is able to pass both a Substitute and Shell Smash to a teammate, it's usually game over for your the opponent. The EV spread is tailored to out{Remove Space}speed every Pokemon in the OU tier without a Choice Scarf or a Speed boost, after a Shell Smash.HP is maximized to allow Huntail to take hits, while the rest of the EVs are dumped into Defense so that Huntail can take physical hits a little better. An Impish nature is used to allow Huntail to take advantage of Huntail's good Defense stat, allowing Huntail to take physical hits better. (Moved to AC){Remove Space} </p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
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<p>The EV spread is tailored to outspeed every Pokemon in the OU tier without a Choice Scarf or a Speed boost after a Shell Smash.HP is maximized to allow Huntail to take hits, while the rest of the EVs are used in Defense so that Huntail can take physical hits a little better. An Impish nature is used to allow Huntail to take advantage of Huntail's good Defense stat, allowing Huntail to take physical hits better. Additionally, White Herb is used to negate the negative stat drops of Shell Smash, ensuring that Huntail and the Shell Smash receiver retain their bulk.</p>
<p>There aren't many other options for the Deep Scale Pokemon. Ice Beam can be used over Substitute to hit the many Dragon-types in OU, but it's generally better to just stick with Substitute. Aqua Tail can be used over Waterfall, but the lack of consistency is not mitigated by the increase in power. Leftovers can be used to increase Huntail's longevity, but White Herb is really needed to make sure that you're not passing stat drops to your teammate.</p>(Moved to OO)
<p>Pokemon that can set up screens like such as Azelf and Espeon make for excellent Huntail partners, as the screens ensure that Huntail is able to pass a Shell Smash to a teammate. Gorebyss may seem like a weird partner, but when Huntail and Gorebyss are working together, it ensures that you will always be able to pass a Shell Smash to a teammate. Pokemon that are able to sweep a team after receiving a Shell Smash are excellent partners for this set; Pokemon like such as Heatran, Jirachi, Nidoking, and Salamence, can rip apart a team after receiving a Shell Smash. Also, since phazers are one of the biggest threats to this set, Magic Bounce Espeon makes an excellent Huntail partner, as Magic Bounce ignores phasing moves like Roar and Whirlwind. Also, Quagsire can defeat the Shell Smash recipient of the recipient doesn't carry a Grass-type attack, thanks to its Unaware ability. As such, the likes of Terrakion's Life Orb Close Combat and Hydreigon's Dragon Pulse can make short work of Quagsire. Haxorus deserves a special mention as its ability, Mold Breaker, ignores Quagsire's Unaware ability, meaning that Haxorus can make short work of Quagsire.</p>
[Other Options]
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<p>There aren't many other options for the Deep Scale Pokemon. Ice Beam can be used over Substitute to hit the many Dragon-types in OU, but it's generally better to just stick with Substitute. Aqua Tail can be used over Waterfall, but the lack of consistency is not mitigated by the increase in power. Leftovers can be used to increase Huntail's longevity, but White Herb is really needed to make sure that you're not passing stat drops to your teammate. Also, Huntail can run a Offensive Shell Smash set consisting of Waterfall, Crunch, Ice Fang and Shell Smash, with an EV spread of 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe, but it's outclassed by Cloyster. Huntail can use Sucker Punch, but the priority is not needed since Huntail is already very fast after a Shell Smash. Barrier and Iron Defense can be used along with Baton Pass, but it's usually better to stick with Shell Smash. Crunch can be used to hit Jellicent and Slowbro, both of whom wall Huntail. Confuse Ray can be used to try and stop phazers like Skarmory and Vaporeon who ruin this set. Double-Edge can be used to provide decent neutral coverage in conjunction with Waterfall. Hidden Power Electric can be used to stop phazers like Skarmory and Gyarados who ruin this set. Huntail can also attempt to run a mixed Shell Smash Sweeper set consisting of Hydro Pump, Ice Beam, Crunch and Shell Smash, but once again, this set is outclassed by Cloyster.</p>
[Checks and Counters]
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<p>Although Huntail is bulky, there are a number of threats that ruin this set give Huntail problems. Phazers like such as Skarmory, Politoed and Gyarados, can use Whirlwind, Perish Song, and Roar to prevent Huntail from passing a Shell Smash and a or Substitute. Since phazers are one of the biggest threats to this set, Magic Bounce Espeon makes an excellent Huntail partner, as Magic Bounce ignores phasing moves like Roar and Whirlwind. (Moved to AC) Status inducers can cripple Huntail, or a Shell Smash recipient.; Breloom and Celebi deserve a special mention as they're able to break Huntail's Substitute, even if screens are active, and then use either Spore or Thunder Wave on the Shell Smash recipient. Additionally, Celebi has access to Perish Song, meaning that Celebi has the potential to cripple a recipient, and end the SmashPass process with Perish Song. Most special attackers with a super effective STAB move can take down Huntail, like such as Celebi Virizion and Rotom-W. With screens support, however, Huntail can survive many of these super effective attacks. Fast users of Trick such as Latios can cripple Huntail if it manages to use Trick before Huntail uses Shell Smash. Fast users of Taunt like Stall Breaker Mew and Prankster Sableye destroy this set, as they can use Taunt before Huntail has a chance to do anything set up. Quagsire can defeat a Shell Smash recipient if the recipient doesn't carry a Grass-type move, due to Quagsire's Unaware ability. Quagsire won't be able to take powerful moves with ease. The likes of Terrakion's Life Orb Close Combat and Hydreigon's Dragon Pulse can make short work of Quagsire. Haxorus deserves a special mention as its ability, Mold Breaker, ignores Quagsire's Unaware ability, meaning that Haxorus can make short work of Quagsire. (Moved to AC) {Remove Space}</p>
[Overview]
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<p>{Remove Space}In the 4th generation, Huntail could only dream of being used in the OU tier. Luckily, in the the 5th generation, the Deep Sea Pokemon got a wonderful gift, in the form of Shell Smash. Huntail is one of three Pokemon in with access to both Shell Smash and Baton Pass. Once you factor in a good Defense stat, a decent Special Defense stat, and good typing, Huntail can pass boosts like it's no tomorrow. Unfortunately, Huntail is not without faults.; Huntail is utterly outclassed by his counterpart, Gorebyss, in the aspect of being a Shell Smash sweeper, due to Huntail's shallow offensive move pool. Additionally, Gorebyss Huntail has a terrible Speed stat, so Huntail is out{Remove Space}sped by the majority of the OU tier, unless Huntail has already used Shell Smash.{Remove Space}</p>
[SET]
name: Smash Pass
move 1: Shell Smash
move 2: Baton Pass
move 3: Waterfall
move 4: Substitute
item: White Herb
ability: Swift Swim
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 24 Def / 232 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
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<p>{Remove Space}This set is Huntail's best shot at competing with the big boys in OU. The combination of Shell Smash and Baton Pass is the main reason to use Huntail, as passing a ridiculous boosts to a sweeper is which then becomes rather difficult to beat. Additionally, White Herb is used to negate the negative stat drops of Shell Smash, ensuring that Huntail and the Shell Smash receiver retain their bulk. (Moved to AC) Waterfall is a reliable STAB move, that can be used to hit hard after a Shell Smash. Substitute is used to shield Huntail from status. Additionally, if Huntail is able to pass both a Substitute and Shell Smash to a teammate, it's usually game over for your the opponent. The EV spread is tailored to out{Remove Space}speed every Pokemon in the OU tier without a Choice Scarf or a Speed boost, after a Shell Smash.HP is maximized to allow Huntail to take hits, while the rest of the EVs are dumped into Defense so that Huntail can take physical hits a little better. An Impish nature is used to allow Huntail to take advantage of Huntail's good Defense stat, allowing Huntail to take physical hits better. (Moved to AC){Remove Space} </p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
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<p>The EV spread is tailored to outspeed every Pokemon in the OU tier without a Choice Scarf or a Speed boost after a Shell Smash.HP is maximized to allow Huntail to take hits, while the rest of the EVs are used in Defense so that Huntail can take physical hits a little better. An Impish nature is used to allow Huntail to take advantage of Huntail's good Defense stat, allowing Huntail to take physical hits better. Additionally, White Herb is used to negate the negative stat drops of Shell Smash, ensuring that Huntail and the Shell Smash receiver retain their bulk.</p>
<p>There aren't many other options for the Deep Scale Pokemon. Ice Beam can be used over Substitute to hit the many Dragon-types in OU, but it's generally better to just stick with Substitute. Aqua Tail can be used over Waterfall, but the lack of consistency is not mitigated by the increase in power. Leftovers can be used to increase Huntail's longevity, but White Herb is really needed to make sure that you're not passing stat drops to your teammate.</p>(Moved to OO)
<p>Pokemon that can set up screens like such as Azelf and Espeon make for excellent Huntail partners, as the screens ensure that Huntail is able to pass a Shell Smash to a teammate. Gorebyss may seem like a weird partner, but when Huntail and Gorebyss are working together, it ensures that you will always be able to pass a Shell Smash to a teammate. Pokemon that are able to sweep a team after receiving a Shell Smash are excellent partners for this set; Pokemon like such as Heatran, Jirachi, Nidoking, and Salamence, can rip apart a team after receiving a Shell Smash. Also, since phazers are one of the biggest threats to this set, Magic Bounce Espeon makes an excellent Huntail partner, as Magic Bounce ignores phasing moves like Roar and Whirlwind. Also, Quagsire can defeat the Shell Smash recipient of the recipient doesn't carry a Grass-type attack, thanks to its Unaware ability. As such, the likes of Terrakion's Life Orb Close Combat and Hydreigon's Dragon Pulse can make short work of Quagsire. Haxorus deserves a special mention as its ability, Mold Breaker, ignores Quagsire's Unaware ability, meaning that Haxorus can make short work of Quagsire.</p>
[Other Options]
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<p>There aren't many other options for the Deep Scale Pokemon. Ice Beam can be used over Substitute to hit the many Dragon-types in OU, but it's generally better to just stick with Substitute. Aqua Tail can be used over Waterfall, but the lack of consistency is not mitigated by the increase in power. Leftovers can be used to increase Huntail's longevity, but White Herb is really needed to make sure that you're not passing stat drops to your teammate. Also, Huntail can run a Offensive Shell Smash set consisting of Waterfall, Crunch, Ice Fang and Shell Smash, with an EV spread of 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe, but it's outclassed by Cloyster. Huntail can use Sucker Punch, but the priority is not needed since Huntail is already very fast after a Shell Smash. Barrier and Iron Defense can be used along with Baton Pass, but it's usually better to stick with Shell Smash. Crunch can be used to hit Jellicent and Slowbro, both of whom wall Huntail. Confuse Ray can be used to try and stop phazers like Skarmory and Vaporeon who ruin this set. Double-Edge can be used to provide decent neutral coverage in conjunction with Waterfall. Hidden Power Electric can be used to stop phazers like Skarmory and Gyarados who ruin this set. Huntail can also attempt to run a mixed Shell Smash Sweeper set consisting of Hydro Pump, Ice Beam, Crunch and Shell Smash, but once again, this set is outclassed by Cloyster.</p>
[Checks and Counters]
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<p>Although Huntail is bulky, there are a number of threats that ruin this set give Huntail problems. Phazers like such as Skarmory, Politoed and Gyarados, can use Whirlwind, Perish Song, and Roar to prevent Huntail from passing a Shell Smash and a or Substitute. Since phazers are one of the biggest threats to this set, Magic Bounce Espeon makes an excellent Huntail partner, as Magic Bounce ignores phasing moves like Roar and Whirlwind. (Moved to AC) Status inducers can cripple Huntail, or a Shell Smash recipient.; Breloom and Celebi deserve a special mention as they're able to break Huntail's Substitute, even if screens are active, and then use either Spore or Thunder Wave on the Shell Smash recipient. Additionally, Celebi has access to Perish Song, meaning that Celebi has the potential to cripple a recipient, and end the SmashPass process with Perish Song. Most special attackers with a super effective STAB move can take down Huntail, like such as Celebi Virizion and Rotom-W. With screens support, however, Huntail can survive many of these super effective attacks. Fast users of Trick such as Latios can cripple Huntail if it manages to use Trick before Huntail uses Shell Smash. Fast users of Taunt like Stall Breaker Mew and Prankster Sableye destroy this set, as they can use Taunt before Huntail has a chance to do anything set up. Quagsire can defeat a Shell Smash recipient if the recipient doesn't carry a Grass-type move, due to Quagsire's Unaware ability. Quagsire won't be able to take powerful moves with ease. The likes of Terrakion's Life Orb Close Combat and Hydreigon's Dragon Pulse can make short work of Quagsire. Haxorus deserves a special mention as its ability, Mold Breaker, ignores Quagsire's Unaware ability, meaning that Haxorus can make short work of Quagsire. (Moved to AC) {Remove Space}</p>
[Overview]
<p>In the 4th generation, Huntail could only dream of being used in the OU tier. Luckily, in the the 5th generation, the Deep Sea Pokemon got a wonderful gift in the form of Shell Smash. Huntail is one of three Pokemon with access to both Shell Smash and Baton Pass. Once you factor in a good Defense stat, a decent Special Defense stat, and good typing, Huntail can pass boosts like it's no tomorrow. Unfortunately, Huntail is not without faults; Huntail is utterly outclassed by his counterpart, Gorebyss, in the aspect of being a Shell Smash sweeper due to Huntail's shallow offensive move pool. Additionally, Huntail has a terrible Speed stat, so Huntail is outsped by the majority of the OU tier, unless Huntail has already used Shell Smash.</p>
[SET]
name: Smash Pass
move 1: Shell Smash
move 2: Baton Pass
move 3: Waterfall
move 4: Substitute
item: White Herb
ability: Swift Swim
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 24 Def / 232 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>This set is Huntail's best shot at competing with the big boys in OU. The combination of Shell Smash and Baton Pass is the main reason to use Huntail, as passing ridiculous boosts to a sweeper which then becomes rather difficult to beat. Waterfall is a reliable STAB move, that can be used to hit hard after a Shell Smash. Substitute is used to shield Huntail from status. Additionally, if Huntail is able to pass both a Substitute and Shell Smash to a teammate, it's usually game over for the opponent.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>The EV spread is tailored to outspeed every Pokemon in the OU tier without a Choice Scarf or a Speed boost after a Shell Smash.HP is maximized to allow Huntail to take hits, while the rest of the EVs are used in Defense so that Huntail can take physical hits a little better. An Impish nature is used to allow Huntail to take advantage of Huntail's good Defense stat, allowing Huntail to take physical hits better. Additionally, White Herb is used to negate the negative stat drops of Shell Smash, ensuring that Huntail and the Shell Smash receiver retain their bulk.</p>
<p>Pokemon that can set up screens such as Azelf and Espeon make for excellent Huntail partners, as the screens ensure that Huntail is able to pass a Shell Smash to a teammate. Gorebyss may seem like a weird partner, but when Huntail and Gorebyss are working together, it ensures that you will always be able to pass a Shell Smash to a teammate. Pokemon that are able to sweep a team after receiving a Shell Smash are excellent partners for this set; Pokemon such as Heatran, Jirachi, Nidoking, and Salamence, can rip apart a team after receiving a Shell Smash. Also, since phazers are one of the biggest threats to this set, Magic Bounce Espeon makes an excellent Huntail partner, as Magic Bounce ignores phasing moves like Roar and Whirlwind. Also, Quagsire can defeat the Shell Smash recipient of the recipient doesn't carry a Grass-type attack, thanks to its Unaware ability. As such, the likes of Terrakion's Life Orb Close Combat and Hydreigon's Dragon Pulse can make short work of Quagsire. Haxorus deserves a special mention as its ability, Mold Breaker, ignores Quagsire's Unaware ability, meaning that Haxorus can make short work of Quagsire.</p>
[Other Options]
<p>There aren't many other options for the Deep Scale Pokemon. Ice Beam can be used over Substitute to hit the many Dragon-types in OU, but it's generally better to just stick with Substitute. Aqua Tail can be used over Waterfall, but the lack of consistency is not mitigated by the increase in power. Leftovers can be used to increase Huntail's longevity, but White Herb is really needed to make sure that you're not passing stat drops to your teammate. Also, Huntail can run a Offensive Shell Smash set consisting of Waterfall, Crunch, Ice Fang and Shell Smash, with an EV spread of 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe, but it's outclassed by Cloyster. Huntail can use Sucker Punch, but the priority is not needed since Huntail is already very fast after a Shell Smash. Barrier and Iron Defense can be used along with Baton Pass, but it's usually better to stick with Shell Smash. Crunch can be used to hit Jellicent and Slowbro, both of whom wall Huntail. Confuse Ray can be used to try and stop phazers like Skarmory and Vaporeon who ruin this set. Double-Edge can be used to provide decent neutral coverage in conjunction with Waterfall. Hidden Power Electric can be used to stop phazers like Skarmory and Gyarados who ruin this set. Huntail can also attempt to run a mixed Shell Smash Sweeper set consisting of Hydro Pump, Ice Beam, Crunch and Shell Smash, but once again, this set is outclassed by Cloyster.</p>
[Checks and Counters]
<p>Although Huntail is bulky, there are a number of threats that give Huntail problems. Phazers such as Skarmory, Politoed and Gyarados, can use Whirlwind, Perish Song, and Roar to prevent Huntail from passing a Shell Smash or Substitute. Status inducers can cripple Huntail, or a Shell Smash recipient; Breloom and Celebi deserve a special mention as they're able to break Huntail's Substitute, even if screens are active, and then use either Spore or Thunder Wave on the Shell Smash recipient. Additionally, Celebi has access to Perish Song, meaning that Celebi has the potential to cripple a recipient, and end the SmashPass process. Most special attackers with a super effective STAB move can take down Huntail, such as Virizion and Rotom-W. With screens support, however, Huntail can survive many of these super effective attacks. Fast users of Trick such as Latios can cripple Huntail if it manages to use Trick before Huntail uses Shell Smash. Fast users of Taunt like Stall Breaker Mew and Prankster Sableye destroy this set, as they can use Taunt before Huntail has a chance to set up. Quagsire can defeat a Shell Smash recipient if the recipient doesn't carry a Grass-type move, due to Quagsire's Unaware ability.</p>
<p>In the 4th generation, Huntail could only dream of being used in the OU tier. Luckily, in the the 5th generation, the Deep Sea Pokemon got a wonderful gift in the form of Shell Smash. Huntail is one of three Pokemon with access to both Shell Smash and Baton Pass. Once you factor in a good Defense stat, a decent Special Defense stat, and good typing, Huntail can pass boosts like it's no tomorrow. Unfortunately, Huntail is not without faults; Huntail is utterly outclassed by his counterpart, Gorebyss, in the aspect of being a Shell Smash sweeper due to Huntail's shallow offensive move pool. Additionally, Huntail has a terrible Speed stat, so Huntail is outsped by the majority of the OU tier, unless Huntail has already used Shell Smash.</p>
[SET]
name: Smash Pass
move 1: Shell Smash
move 2: Baton Pass
move 3: Waterfall
move 4: Substitute
item: White Herb
ability: Swift Swim
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 24 Def / 232 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>This set is Huntail's best shot at competing with the big boys in OU. The combination of Shell Smash and Baton Pass is the main reason to use Huntail, as passing ridiculous boosts to a sweeper which then becomes rather difficult to beat. Waterfall is a reliable STAB move, that can be used to hit hard after a Shell Smash. Substitute is used to shield Huntail from status. Additionally, if Huntail is able to pass both a Substitute and Shell Smash to a teammate, it's usually game over for the opponent.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>The EV spread is tailored to outspeed every Pokemon in the OU tier without a Choice Scarf or a Speed boost after a Shell Smash.HP is maximized to allow Huntail to take hits, while the rest of the EVs are used in Defense so that Huntail can take physical hits a little better. An Impish nature is used to allow Huntail to take advantage of Huntail's good Defense stat, allowing Huntail to take physical hits better. Additionally, White Herb is used to negate the negative stat drops of Shell Smash, ensuring that Huntail and the Shell Smash receiver retain their bulk.</p>
<p>Pokemon that can set up screens such as Azelf and Espeon make for excellent Huntail partners, as the screens ensure that Huntail is able to pass a Shell Smash to a teammate. Gorebyss may seem like a weird partner, but when Huntail and Gorebyss are working together, it ensures that you will always be able to pass a Shell Smash to a teammate. Pokemon that are able to sweep a team after receiving a Shell Smash are excellent partners for this set; Pokemon such as Heatran, Jirachi, Nidoking, and Salamence, can rip apart a team after receiving a Shell Smash. Also, since phazers are one of the biggest threats to this set, Magic Bounce Espeon makes an excellent Huntail partner, as Magic Bounce ignores phasing moves like Roar and Whirlwind. Also, Quagsire can defeat the Shell Smash recipient of the recipient doesn't carry a Grass-type attack, thanks to its Unaware ability. As such, the likes of Terrakion's Life Orb Close Combat and Hydreigon's Dragon Pulse can make short work of Quagsire. Haxorus deserves a special mention as its ability, Mold Breaker, ignores Quagsire's Unaware ability, meaning that Haxorus can make short work of Quagsire.</p>
[Other Options]
<p>There aren't many other options for the Deep Scale Pokemon. Ice Beam can be used over Substitute to hit the many Dragon-types in OU, but it's generally better to just stick with Substitute. Aqua Tail can be used over Waterfall, but the lack of consistency is not mitigated by the increase in power. Leftovers can be used to increase Huntail's longevity, but White Herb is really needed to make sure that you're not passing stat drops to your teammate. Also, Huntail can run a Offensive Shell Smash set consisting of Waterfall, Crunch, Ice Fang and Shell Smash, with an EV spread of 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe, but it's outclassed by Cloyster. Huntail can use Sucker Punch, but the priority is not needed since Huntail is already very fast after a Shell Smash. Barrier and Iron Defense can be used along with Baton Pass, but it's usually better to stick with Shell Smash. Crunch can be used to hit Jellicent and Slowbro, both of whom wall Huntail. Confuse Ray can be used to try and stop phazers like Skarmory and Vaporeon who ruin this set. Double-Edge can be used to provide decent neutral coverage in conjunction with Waterfall. Hidden Power Electric can be used to stop phazers like Skarmory and Gyarados who ruin this set. Huntail can also attempt to run a mixed Shell Smash Sweeper set consisting of Hydro Pump, Ice Beam, Crunch and Shell Smash, but once again, this set is outclassed by Cloyster.</p>
[Checks and Counters]
<p>Although Huntail is bulky, there are a number of threats that give Huntail problems. Phazers such as Skarmory, Politoed and Gyarados, can use Whirlwind, Perish Song, and Roar to prevent Huntail from passing a Shell Smash or Substitute. Status inducers can cripple Huntail, or a Shell Smash recipient; Breloom and Celebi deserve a special mention as they're able to break Huntail's Substitute, even if screens are active, and then use either Spore or Thunder Wave on the Shell Smash recipient. Additionally, Celebi has access to Perish Song, meaning that Celebi has the potential to cripple a recipient, and end the SmashPass process. Most special attackers with a super effective STAB move can take down Huntail, such as Virizion and Rotom-W. With screens support, however, Huntail can survive many of these super effective attacks. Fast users of Trick such as Latios can cripple Huntail if it manages to use Trick before Huntail uses Shell Smash. Fast users of Taunt like Stall Breaker Mew and Prankster Sableye destroy this set, as they can use Taunt before Huntail has a chance to set up. Quagsire can defeat a Shell Smash recipient if the recipient doesn't carry a Grass-type move, due to Quagsire's Unaware ability.</p>
Sir, you're still trying to coach Huntail users in the C&C section. Remove mention of teammates that can help Huntail and talk about stuff that ruins Huntail or the Pass.
do-de-do, working over TF's check.
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[Overview]
<p>In the 4th (fourth) generation, Huntail could only dream of being used in the OU tier. Luckily, in the the 5th generation, the Deep Sea Pokemon got (the fifth generation gave Huntail) a wonderful gift in the form of Shell Smash. Huntail is one of three Pokemon with access to both Shell Smash and Baton Pass. Once you factor in a good Defense stat, a decent Special Defense stat, and good typing, Huntail can pass boosts like it's (there's) no tomorrow. Unfortunately, Huntail is not without faults; Huntail is utterly outclassed by his (its) counterpart, Gorebyss, in the aspect of being a Shell Smash sweeper due to Huntail's shallow offensive move(remove space)pool. Additionally, Huntail has a terrible Speed stat, so Huntail is outsped by the majority of the OU tier, unless Huntail has already used Shell Smash. (Additionally, Huntail's terrible Speed stat means that it will struggle to outspeed a majority of the OU tier, even after a Shell Smash.)</p>
[SET]
name: Smash(remove space)Pass
move 1: Shell Smash
move 2: Baton Pass
move 3: Waterfall
move 4: Substitute
item: White Herb
ability: Swift Swim
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 24 Def / 232 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>The EV spread is tailored to outspeed every Pokemon in the OU tier without a Choice Scarf or a Speed boost after a Shell Smash.(+space)HP is maximized to allow Huntail to take hits, while the rest of the EVs are used in (put into) Defense so that Huntail can take physical hits a little better. An Impish nature is used to allow Huntail to take advantage of Huntail's (its) good Defense stat, allowing Huntail to take physical hits better (and take physical hits even better). Additionally, (a) White Herb is used to negate the negative stat drops of Shell Smash, ensuring that Huntail and the Shell Smash receiver retain their bulk.</p>
<p>Pokemon that can set up (dual) screens (comma) such as Azelf and Espeon (comma) make for excellent Huntail partners, as the screens ensure that Huntail is able to pass a Shell Smash to a teammate. Gorebyss may seem like a weird partner, but when Huntail and Gorebyss are working together, it ensures that you will always be able to pass a Shell Smash to a teammate. Pokemon that are able to sweep a team after receiving a Shell Smash are excellent partners for this set; Pokemon such as Heatran, Jirachi, Nidoking, and Salamence, can rip apart a team after receiving a Shell Smash. Also, since phazers are one of the biggest threats to this set, Magic Bounce Espeon makes an excellent Huntail partner, as Magic Bounce ignores phasing moves like Roar and Whirlwind. Also, Quagsire can defeat the Shell Smash recipient of the recipient doesn't carry (a Shell Smash recipient without) a Grass-type attack, thanks to its Unaware ability. As such, the likes of Terrakion's Life Orb Close Combat and Hydreigon's Dragon Pulse can make short work of Quagsire (with their powerful moves). Haxorus deserves a special mention as its ability, Mold Breaker, ignores Quagsire's Unaware ability, meaning that Haxorus can make short work of Quagsire.</p>
[Other Options]
<p>There aren't many other options for the Deep Scale (Sea) Pokemon. Ice Beam can be used over Substitute to hit the many Dragon-types in OU, but it's generally better to just stick with Substitute. Aqua Tail can be used over Waterfall, but the lack of consistency is not mitigated by the increase in power. Leftovers can be used to increase Huntail's longevity, but White Herb is really needed to make sure that you're not passing stat drops to your teammate. Also, Huntail can run a(n) Offensive Shell Smash set consisting of Waterfall, Crunch, Ice Fang and Shell Smash, with an EV spread of 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe, but it's outclassed by Cloyster. Huntail can use Sucker Punch, but the priority is not needed since Huntail is already very fast after a Shell Smash. Barrier and Iron Defense can be used along with Baton Pass, but it's usually better to stick with Shell Smash. Crunch can be used to hit Jellicent and Slowbro, both of whom wall Huntail. Confuse Ray can be used to try and stop phazers (comma) like (such as) Skarmory and Vaporeon (comma) who ruin this set. Double-Edge can be used to provide decent neutral coverage in conjunction with Waterfall. Hidden Power Electric can be used to stop phazers like Skarmory and Gyarados who ruin this set. Huntail can also attempt to run a mixed Shell Smash Sweeper set consisting of Hydro Pump, Ice Beam, Crunch and Shell Smash, but once again, this set is outclassed by Cloyster.</p>
[Checks and Counters]
<p>Although Huntail is bulky, there are a number of threats that give Huntail problems. Phazers such as Skarmory, Politoed (comma) and Gyarados, can use Whirlwind, Perish Song, and Roar to prevent Huntail from passing a Shell Smash or Substitute. Status inducers can cripple Huntail, or a Shell Smash recipient; Breloom and Celebi deserve a special mention as they're able to break Huntail's Substitute, even if screens are active, and then use either Spore or Thunder Wave on the Shell Smash recipient. Additionally, Celebi has access to Perish Song, meaning that Celebi has the potential to cripple a recipient, and end the SmashPass process. (potentially ruining the SmashPass process.) Most special attackers with a super effective STAB move (comma) (such as Virizion and Rotom-W,) can take down Huntail, such as Virizion and Rotom-W. With (dual) screens support, however, Huntail can survive many of these super effective attacks. Fast users of Trick (comma) such as Latios (comma) can cripple Huntail if it manages to use Trick before Huntail uses Shell Smash. Fast users of Taunt (comma) like Stall Breaker (such as Stallbreaker) Mew and Prankster Sableye (comma) destroy this set, as they can use Taunt before Huntail has a chance to set up. Quagsire can defeat a Shell Smash recipient if the recipient doesn't carry a Grass-type move, due to Quagsire's Unaware ability. (Quagsire's Unaware ability will neutralize any boosts Huntail's recipient has accumulated, making it a useful check.)</p>
<p>In the 4th (fourth) generation, Huntail could only dream of being used in the OU tier. Luckily, in the the 5th generation, the Deep Sea Pokemon got (the fifth generation gave Huntail) a wonderful gift in the form of Shell Smash. Huntail is one of three Pokemon with access to both Shell Smash and Baton Pass. Once you factor in a good Defense stat, a decent Special Defense stat, and good typing, Huntail can pass boosts like it's (there's) no tomorrow. Unfortunately, Huntail is not without faults; Huntail is utterly outclassed by his (its) counterpart, Gorebyss, in the aspect of being a Shell Smash sweeper due to Huntail's shallow offensive move(remove space)pool. Additionally, Huntail has a terrible Speed stat, so Huntail is outsped by the majority of the OU tier, unless Huntail has already used Shell Smash. (Additionally, Huntail's terrible Speed stat means that it will struggle to outspeed a majority of the OU tier, even after a Shell Smash.)</p>
[SET]
name: Smash(remove space)Pass
move 1: Shell Smash
move 2: Baton Pass
move 3: Waterfall
move 4: Substitute
item: White Herb
ability: Swift Swim
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 24 Def / 232 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>This set is Huntail's best shot at competing with the big boys in OU. The combination of Shell Smash and Baton Pass is the main reason to use Huntail, as passing ridiculous boosts to a sweeper which then becomes (makes your team) rather difficult to beat. Waterfall is a reliable STAB move, that can be used to hit hard after a Shell Smash. Substitute is used to shield Huntail from status. Additionally, if Huntail is able to pass both a Substitute and Shell Smash to a teammate, it's usually game over for the opponent.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>The EV spread is tailored to outspeed every Pokemon in the OU tier without a Choice Scarf or a Speed boost after a Shell Smash.(+space)HP is maximized to allow Huntail to take hits, while the rest of the EVs are used in (put into) Defense so that Huntail can take physical hits a little better. An Impish nature is used to allow Huntail to take advantage of Huntail's (its) good Defense stat, allowing Huntail to take physical hits better (and take physical hits even better). Additionally, (a) White Herb is used to negate the negative stat drops of Shell Smash, ensuring that Huntail and the Shell Smash receiver retain their bulk.</p>
<p>Pokemon that can set up (dual) screens (comma) such as Azelf and Espeon (comma) make for excellent Huntail partners, as the screens ensure that Huntail is able to pass a Shell Smash to a teammate. Gorebyss may seem like a weird partner, but when Huntail and Gorebyss are working together, it ensures that you will always be able to pass a Shell Smash to a teammate. Pokemon that are able to sweep a team after receiving a Shell Smash are excellent partners for this set; Pokemon such as Heatran, Jirachi, Nidoking, and Salamence, can rip apart a team after receiving a Shell Smash. Also, since phazers are one of the biggest threats to this set, Magic Bounce Espeon makes an excellent Huntail partner, as Magic Bounce ignores phasing moves like Roar and Whirlwind. Also, Quagsire can defeat the Shell Smash recipient of the recipient doesn't carry (a Shell Smash recipient without) a Grass-type attack, thanks to its Unaware ability. As such, the likes of Terrakion's Life Orb Close Combat and Hydreigon's Dragon Pulse can make short work of Quagsire (with their powerful moves). Haxorus deserves a special mention as its ability, Mold Breaker, ignores Quagsire's Unaware ability, meaning that Haxorus can make short work of Quagsire.</p>
[Other Options]
<p>There aren't many other options for the Deep Scale (Sea) Pokemon. Ice Beam can be used over Substitute to hit the many Dragon-types in OU, but it's generally better to just stick with Substitute. Aqua Tail can be used over Waterfall, but the lack of consistency is not mitigated by the increase in power. Leftovers can be used to increase Huntail's longevity, but White Herb is really needed to make sure that you're not passing stat drops to your teammate. Also, Huntail can run a(n) Offensive Shell Smash set consisting of Waterfall, Crunch, Ice Fang and Shell Smash, with an EV spread of 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe, but it's outclassed by Cloyster. Huntail can use Sucker Punch, but the priority is not needed since Huntail is already very fast after a Shell Smash. Barrier and Iron Defense can be used along with Baton Pass, but it's usually better to stick with Shell Smash. Crunch can be used to hit Jellicent and Slowbro, both of whom wall Huntail. Confuse Ray can be used to try and stop phazers (comma) like (such as) Skarmory and Vaporeon (comma) who ruin this set. Double-Edge can be used to provide decent neutral coverage in conjunction with Waterfall. Hidden Power Electric can be used to stop phazers like Skarmory and Gyarados who ruin this set. Huntail can also attempt to run a mixed Shell Smash Sweeper set consisting of Hydro Pump, Ice Beam, Crunch and Shell Smash, but once again, this set is outclassed by Cloyster.</p>
[Checks and Counters]
<p>Although Huntail is bulky, there are a number of threats that give Huntail problems. Phazers such as Skarmory, Politoed (comma) and Gyarados, can use Whirlwind, Perish Song, and Roar to prevent Huntail from passing a Shell Smash or Substitute. Status inducers can cripple Huntail, or a Shell Smash recipient; Breloom and Celebi deserve a special mention as they're able to break Huntail's Substitute, even if screens are active, and then use either Spore or Thunder Wave on the Shell Smash recipient. Additionally, Celebi has access to Perish Song, meaning that Celebi has the potential to cripple a recipient, and end the SmashPass process. (potentially ruining the SmashPass process.) Most special attackers with a super effective STAB move (comma) (such as Virizion and Rotom-W,) can take down Huntail, such as Virizion and Rotom-W. With (dual) screens support, however, Huntail can survive many of these super effective attacks. Fast users of Trick (comma) such as Latios (comma) can cripple Huntail if it manages to use Trick before Huntail uses Shell Smash. Fast users of Taunt (comma) like Stall Breaker (such as Stallbreaker) Mew and Prankster Sableye (comma) destroy this set, as they can use Taunt before Huntail has a chance to set up. Quagsire can defeat a Shell Smash recipient if the recipient doesn't carry a Grass-type move, due to Quagsire's Unaware ability. (Quagsire's Unaware ability will neutralize any boosts Huntail's recipient has accumulated, making it a useful check.)</p>
[Overview]
<p>In the fourth generation, Huntail could only dream of being used in the OU tier. Luckily, the fifth generation gave Huntail a wonderful gift in the form of Shell Smash. Huntail is one of three Pokemon with access to both Shell Smash and Baton Pass. Once you factor in a good Defense stat, a decent Special Defense stat, and good typing, Huntail can pass boosts like there's no tomorrow. Unfortunately, Huntail is not without faults; Huntail is utterly outclassed by its counterpart, Gorebyss, in being a Shell Smash sweeper due to Huntail's shallow offensive movepool. Additionally, Huntail's terrible Speed stat means that it will struggle to outspeed a majority of the OU tier, even after a Shell Smash.</p>
[SET]
name: SmashPass
move 1: Shell Smash
move 2: Baton Pass
move 3: Waterfall
move 4: Substitute
item: White Herb
ability: Swift Swim
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 24 Def / 232 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>The EV spread is tailored to outspeed every Pokemon in the OU tier without a Choice Scarf or a Speed boost after a Shell Smash. HP is maximized to allow Huntail to take hits, while the rest of the EVs are put into Defense so that Huntail can take physical hits a little better. An Impish nature is used to allow Huntail to take advantage of its good Defense stat and take physical hits even better. Additionally, a White Herb is used to negate the negative stat drops of Shell Smash, ensuring that Huntail and the Shell Smash receiver retain their bulk.</p>
<p>Pokemon that can set up dual screens, such as Azelf and Espeon, make for excellent Huntail partners, as the screens ensure that Huntail is able to pass a Shell Smash to a teammate. Gorebyss may seem like a weird partner, but when Huntail and Gorebyss are working together, it ensures that you will always be able to pass a Shell Smash to a teammate. Pokemon that are able to sweep a team after receiving a Shell Smash are excellent partners for this set; Pokemon such as Heatran, Jirachi, Nidoking, and Salamence, can rip apart a team after receiving a Shell Smash. Also, since phazers are one of the biggest threats to this set, Magic Bounce Espeon makes an excellent Huntail partner, as Magic Bounce ignores phasing moves like Roar and Whirlwind. Also, Quagsire can defeat a Shell Smash recipient without a Grass-type attack, thanks to its Unaware ability. As such, the likes of Terrakion and Hydreigon can make short work of Quagsire with their powerful moves. Haxorus deserves a special mention as its ability, Mold Breaker, ignores Quagsire's Unaware ability, meaning that Haxorus can make short work of Quagsire.</p>
[Other Options]
<p>There aren't many other options for the Deep Sea Pokemon. Ice Beam can be used over Substitute to hit the many Dragon-types in OU, but it's generally better to just stick with Substitute. Aqua Tail can be used over Waterfall, but the lack of consistency is not mitigated by the increase in power. Leftovers can be used to increase Huntail's longevity, but White Herb is really needed to make sure that you're not passing stat drops to your teammate. Also, Huntail can run an Offensive Shell Smash set consisting of Waterfall, Crunch, Ice Fang and Shell Smash, with an EV spread of 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe, but it's outclassed by Cloyster. Huntail can use Sucker Punch, but the priority is not needed since Huntail is already very fast after a Shell Smash. Barrier and Iron Defense can be used along with Baton Pass, but it's usually better to stick with Shell Smash. Crunch can be used to hit Jellicent and Slowbro, both of whom wall Huntail. Confuse Ray can be used to try and stop phazers, such as Skarmory and Vaporeon, who ruin this set. Double-Edge can be used to provide decent neutral coverage in conjunction with Waterfall. Huntail can also attempt to run a mixed Shell Smash Sweeper set consisting of Hydro Pump, Ice Beam, Crunch and Shell Smash, but once again, this set is outclassed by Cloyster.</p>
[Checks and Counters]
<p>Although Huntail is bulky, there are a number of threats that give Huntail problems. Phazers such as Skarmory, Politoed, and Gyarados can use Whirlwind, Perish Song, and Roar to prevent Huntail from passing a Shell Smash or Substitute. Status inducers can cripple Huntail, or a Shell Smash recipient; Breloom and Celebi deserve a special mention as they're able to break Huntail's Substitute, even if screens are active, and then use either Spore or Thunder Wave on the Shell Smash recipient. Additionally, Celebi has access to Perish Song, potentially ruining the SmashPass process. Most special attackers with a super effective STAB move, such as Virizion and Rotom-W, can take down Huntail. With dual screens support, however, Huntail can survive many of these super effective attacks. Fast users of Trick, such as Latios, can cripple Huntail if it manages to use Trick before Huntail uses Shell Smash. Fast users of Taunt, such as Stallbreaker Mew and Prankster Sableye, destroy this set, as they can use Taunt before Huntail has a chance to set up. Quagsire's Unaware ability will neutralize any boosts Huntail's recipient has accumulated, making it a useful check.</p>
<p>In the fourth generation, Huntail could only dream of being used in the OU tier. Luckily, the fifth generation gave Huntail a wonderful gift in the form of Shell Smash. Huntail is one of three Pokemon with access to both Shell Smash and Baton Pass. Once you factor in a good Defense stat, a decent Special Defense stat, and good typing, Huntail can pass boosts like there's no tomorrow. Unfortunately, Huntail is not without faults; Huntail is utterly outclassed by its counterpart, Gorebyss, in being a Shell Smash sweeper due to Huntail's shallow offensive movepool. Additionally, Huntail's terrible Speed stat means that it will struggle to outspeed a majority of the OU tier, even after a Shell Smash.</p>
[SET]
name: SmashPass
move 1: Shell Smash
move 2: Baton Pass
move 3: Waterfall
move 4: Substitute
item: White Herb
ability: Swift Swim
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 24 Def / 232 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>This set is Huntail's best shot at competing with the big boys in OU. The combination of Shell Smash and Baton Pass is the main reason to use Huntail, as passing ridiculous boosts to a sweeper makes your team rather difficult to beat. Waterfall is a reliable STAB move, that can be used to hit hard after a Shell Smash. Substitute is used to shield Huntail from status. Additionally, if Huntail is able to pass both a Substitute and Shell Smash to a teammate, it's usually game over for the opponent.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>The EV spread is tailored to outspeed every Pokemon in the OU tier without a Choice Scarf or a Speed boost after a Shell Smash. HP is maximized to allow Huntail to take hits, while the rest of the EVs are put into Defense so that Huntail can take physical hits a little better. An Impish nature is used to allow Huntail to take advantage of its good Defense stat and take physical hits even better. Additionally, a White Herb is used to negate the negative stat drops of Shell Smash, ensuring that Huntail and the Shell Smash receiver retain their bulk.</p>
<p>Pokemon that can set up dual screens, such as Azelf and Espeon, make for excellent Huntail partners, as the screens ensure that Huntail is able to pass a Shell Smash to a teammate. Gorebyss may seem like a weird partner, but when Huntail and Gorebyss are working together, it ensures that you will always be able to pass a Shell Smash to a teammate. Pokemon that are able to sweep a team after receiving a Shell Smash are excellent partners for this set; Pokemon such as Heatran, Jirachi, Nidoking, and Salamence, can rip apart a team after receiving a Shell Smash. Also, since phazers are one of the biggest threats to this set, Magic Bounce Espeon makes an excellent Huntail partner, as Magic Bounce ignores phasing moves like Roar and Whirlwind. Also, Quagsire can defeat a Shell Smash recipient without a Grass-type attack, thanks to its Unaware ability. As such, the likes of Terrakion and Hydreigon can make short work of Quagsire with their powerful moves. Haxorus deserves a special mention as its ability, Mold Breaker, ignores Quagsire's Unaware ability, meaning that Haxorus can make short work of Quagsire.</p>
[Other Options]
<p>There aren't many other options for the Deep Sea Pokemon. Ice Beam can be used over Substitute to hit the many Dragon-types in OU, but it's generally better to just stick with Substitute. Aqua Tail can be used over Waterfall, but the lack of consistency is not mitigated by the increase in power. Leftovers can be used to increase Huntail's longevity, but White Herb is really needed to make sure that you're not passing stat drops to your teammate. Also, Huntail can run an Offensive Shell Smash set consisting of Waterfall, Crunch, Ice Fang and Shell Smash, with an EV spread of 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe, but it's outclassed by Cloyster. Huntail can use Sucker Punch, but the priority is not needed since Huntail is already very fast after a Shell Smash. Barrier and Iron Defense can be used along with Baton Pass, but it's usually better to stick with Shell Smash. Crunch can be used to hit Jellicent and Slowbro, both of whom wall Huntail. Confuse Ray can be used to try and stop phazers, such as Skarmory and Vaporeon, who ruin this set. Double-Edge can be used to provide decent neutral coverage in conjunction with Waterfall. Huntail can also attempt to run a mixed Shell Smash Sweeper set consisting of Hydro Pump, Ice Beam, Crunch and Shell Smash, but once again, this set is outclassed by Cloyster.</p>
[Checks and Counters]
<p>Although Huntail is bulky, there are a number of threats that give Huntail problems. Phazers such as Skarmory, Politoed, and Gyarados can use Whirlwind, Perish Song, and Roar to prevent Huntail from passing a Shell Smash or Substitute. Status inducers can cripple Huntail, or a Shell Smash recipient; Breloom and Celebi deserve a special mention as they're able to break Huntail's Substitute, even if screens are active, and then use either Spore or Thunder Wave on the Shell Smash recipient. Additionally, Celebi has access to Perish Song, potentially ruining the SmashPass process. Most special attackers with a super effective STAB move, such as Virizion and Rotom-W, can take down Huntail. With dual screens support, however, Huntail can survive many of these super effective attacks. Fast users of Trick, such as Latios, can cripple Huntail if it manages to use Trick before Huntail uses Shell Smash. Fast users of Taunt, such as Stallbreaker Mew and Prankster Sableye, destroy this set, as they can use Taunt before Huntail has a chance to set up. Quagsire's Unaware ability will neutralize any boosts Huntail's recipient has accumulated, making it a useful check.</p>
GP (1/2)
2/2
[Overview]
<p>In DPP, Huntail could only dream of being used in the OU tier. Luckily, BW gave Huntail a wonderful gift in the form of Shell Smash, making Huntail only one of three Pokemon with access to both Shell Smash and Baton Pass. Once you factor in a good Defense stat, a decent Special Defense stat, and a good typing, Huntail can pass boosts like there's no tomorrow. Unfortunately, Huntail is not without faults. Due to its shallow offensive movepool, Huntail is utterly outclassed by its counterpart, Gorebyss, in the role of a Shell Smash sweeper. Additionally, Huntail's terrible Speed stat means that it will struggle to outspeed a majority of the OU tier even after a Shell Smash.</p>
[SET]
name: SmashPass
move 1: Shell Smash
move 2: Baton Pass
move 3: Waterfall
move 4: Substitute
item: White Herb
ability: Swift Swim
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 24 Def / 232 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>This set is Huntail's best shot at competing with the big boys in OU. The combination of Shell Smash and Baton Pass is the main reason to use Huntail, as passing ridiculous boosts to a sweeper makes it extremely difficult to wall. Waterfall is a reliable STAB move that can be used to hit hard after a Shell Smash, while Substitute shields Huntail from status. Additionally, if Huntail is able to pass both a Substitute and Shell Smash to a teammate, it's usually game over for the opponent.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>The EV spread is tailored to outspeed every unboosted Pokemon in the OU tier after a Shell Smash; a boosted Huntail also outspeeds Choice Scarf base <x> Pokemon <such as? (this bit is optional)>. HP is maximized to allow Huntail to better take hits, while the rest of the EVs are put into Defense so that Huntail can take physical hits a little better. An Impish nature allows Huntail to take advantage of its good Defense stat and take physical hits even better. A White Herb is used to negate the stat drops of Shell Smash, ensuring that Huntail and the Shell Smash receiver retain their bulk.</p>
<p>Pokemon that can set up dual screens, such as Azelf and Espeon, make for excellent partners to Huntail, as the screens ensure that Huntail will be able to pass a Shell Smash to a teammate. Espeon is also notable for its Magic Boucne ability, which enables it to thwart phazing moves such as Roar and Whirlwind, one of the biggest threats to this set. Gorebyss might seem like an odd partner, but they can be used on the same team to pass Shell Smash boosts multiple times. Pokemon that are able to sweep a team after receiving a Shell Smash are excellent partners for this set; examples include Heatran, Jirachi, Nidoking, and Salamence, all of whom can rip apart a team after receiving a Shell Smash. Thanks to its Unaware ability, Quagsire can defeat most Shell Smash recipients lacking Grass-type attacks. The likes of Terrakion and Hydreigon can make short work of Quagsire with their powerful moves, while Haxorus can bypass Unaware with its Mold Breaker ability and make short work of Quagsire.</p>
[Other Options]
<p>There aren't many other options Huntail can pull off successfully. Leftovers can be used to increase Huntail's longevity, but White Herb is needed to make sure that Huntail doesn't pass stat drops to its teammate. Huntail can attempt to utilize the Shell Smash boosts itself with a set of Shell Smash, Waterfall, Crunch, and Ice Fang, along with an EV spread of 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe, but it's outclassed by Cloyster in this role. The same applies to a mixed set of Shell Smash, Hydro Pump, Ice Beam, and Crunch. Huntail can Baton Pass Barrier and Iron Defense boosts, but Shell Smash boosts are generally preferred.</p>
<p>Ice Beam can be used over Substitute to hit the many Dragon-types in OU, but it's generally better to just stick with Substitute <why?>. Crunch can be used to hit Jellicent and Slowbro, both of whom wall Huntail. Double-Edge can be used to provide decent neutral coverage in conjunction with Waterfall. Aqua Tail can be used over Waterfall, but consistency is preferred to power. Huntail can use Sucker Punch, but priority is generally not needed as Huntail is already very fast after a Shell Smash. Confuse Ray might allow Huntail to stop phazers, such as Skarmory and Vaporeon, who ruin this set. </p>
[Checks and Counters]
<p>Although Huntail is bulky, there are a number of threats that give it problems. Phazers such as Skarmory, Politoed, and Gyarados can use Whirlwind, Perish Song, or Roar respectively to prevent Huntail from passing Shell Smash or Substitute. Status inducers can cripple Huntail or its Shell Smash recipient; Breloom and Celebi deserve a special mention as they're able to break Huntail's Substitutes even if screens are in place, and then use either Spore or Thunder Wave on the Shell Smash recipient. Additionally, Celebi has access to Perish Song, which can ruin the SmashPass process. Most special attackers with a super effective STAB move, such as Virizion and Rotom-W, can take down Huntail. With dual screens support, however, Huntail can survive many of these super effective attacks. Fast users of Trick, such as Latios, can cripple Huntail if it manages to use Trick before Huntail uses Shell Smash. Fast users of Taunt, such as stallbreaker Mew and Prankster Sableye, destroy this set, as they can use Taunt before Huntail has a chance to set up. Quagsire's Unaware ability will neutralize any boosts Huntail's recipient has accumulated, making it a useful check.</p> <if it's possible to break up this paragraph somehow, that'd be great, because it's pretty huge rn>
<p>In DPP, Huntail could only dream of being used in the OU tier. Luckily, BW gave Huntail a wonderful gift in the form of Shell Smash, making Huntail only one of three Pokemon with access to both Shell Smash and Baton Pass. Once you factor in a good Defense stat, a decent Special Defense stat, and a good typing, Huntail can pass boosts like there's no tomorrow. Unfortunately, Huntail is not without faults. Due to its shallow offensive movepool, Huntail is utterly outclassed by its counterpart, Gorebyss, in the role of a Shell Smash sweeper. Additionally, Huntail's terrible Speed stat means that it will struggle to outspeed a majority of the OU tier even after a Shell Smash.</p>
[SET]
name: SmashPass
move 1: Shell Smash
move 2: Baton Pass
move 3: Waterfall
move 4: Substitute
item: White Herb
ability: Swift Swim
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 24 Def / 232 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>This set is Huntail's best shot at competing with the big boys in OU. The combination of Shell Smash and Baton Pass is the main reason to use Huntail, as passing ridiculous boosts to a sweeper makes it extremely difficult to wall. Waterfall is a reliable STAB move that can be used to hit hard after a Shell Smash, while Substitute shields Huntail from status. Additionally, if Huntail is able to pass both a Substitute and Shell Smash to a teammate, it's usually game over for the opponent.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>The EV spread is tailored to outspeed every unboosted Pokemon in the OU tier after a Shell Smash; a boosted Huntail also outspeeds Choice Scarf base <x> Pokemon <such as? (this bit is optional)>. HP is maximized to allow Huntail to better take hits, while the rest of the EVs are put into Defense so that Huntail can take physical hits a little better. An Impish nature allows Huntail to take advantage of its good Defense stat and take physical hits even better. A White Herb is used to negate the stat drops of Shell Smash, ensuring that Huntail and the Shell Smash receiver retain their bulk.</p>
<p>Pokemon that can set up dual screens, such as Azelf and Espeon, make for excellent partners to Huntail, as the screens ensure that Huntail will be able to pass a Shell Smash to a teammate. Espeon is also notable for its Magic Boucne ability, which enables it to thwart phazing moves such as Roar and Whirlwind, one of the biggest threats to this set. Gorebyss might seem like an odd partner, but they can be used on the same team to pass Shell Smash boosts multiple times. Pokemon that are able to sweep a team after receiving a Shell Smash are excellent partners for this set; examples include Heatran, Jirachi, Nidoking, and Salamence, all of whom can rip apart a team after receiving a Shell Smash. Thanks to its Unaware ability, Quagsire can defeat most Shell Smash recipients lacking Grass-type attacks. The likes of Terrakion and Hydreigon can make short work of Quagsire with their powerful moves, while Haxorus can bypass Unaware with its Mold Breaker ability and make short work of Quagsire.</p>
[Other Options]
<p>There aren't many other options Huntail can pull off successfully. Leftovers can be used to increase Huntail's longevity, but White Herb is needed to make sure that Huntail doesn't pass stat drops to its teammate. Huntail can attempt to utilize the Shell Smash boosts itself with a set of Shell Smash, Waterfall, Crunch, and Ice Fang, along with an EV spread of 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe, but it's outclassed by Cloyster in this role. The same applies to a mixed set of Shell Smash, Hydro Pump, Ice Beam, and Crunch. Huntail can Baton Pass Barrier and Iron Defense boosts, but Shell Smash boosts are generally preferred.</p>
<p>Ice Beam can be used over Substitute to hit the many Dragon-types in OU, but it's generally better to just stick with Substitute <why?>. Crunch can be used to hit Jellicent and Slowbro, both of whom wall Huntail. Double-Edge can be used to provide decent neutral coverage in conjunction with Waterfall. Aqua Tail can be used over Waterfall, but consistency is preferred to power. Huntail can use Sucker Punch, but priority is generally not needed as Huntail is already very fast after a Shell Smash. Confuse Ray might allow Huntail to stop phazers, such as Skarmory and Vaporeon, who ruin this set. </p>
[Checks and Counters]
<p>Although Huntail is bulky, there are a number of threats that give it problems. Phazers such as Skarmory, Politoed, and Gyarados can use Whirlwind, Perish Song, or Roar respectively to prevent Huntail from passing Shell Smash or Substitute. Status inducers can cripple Huntail or its Shell Smash recipient; Breloom and Celebi deserve a special mention as they're able to break Huntail's Substitutes even if screens are in place, and then use either Spore or Thunder Wave on the Shell Smash recipient. Additionally, Celebi has access to Perish Song, which can ruin the SmashPass process. Most special attackers with a super effective STAB move, such as Virizion and Rotom-W, can take down Huntail. With dual screens support, however, Huntail can survive many of these super effective attacks. Fast users of Trick, such as Latios, can cripple Huntail if it manages to use Trick before Huntail uses Shell Smash. Fast users of Taunt, such as stallbreaker Mew and Prankster Sableye, destroy this set, as they can use Taunt before Huntail has a chance to set up. Quagsire's Unaware ability will neutralize any boosts Huntail's recipient has accumulated, making it a useful check.</p> <if it's possible to break up this paragraph somehow, that'd be great, because it's pretty huge rn>
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