I think I am too indecisive to ever get a team built...

koda

For the past month, I've spent a majority of my free time pouring over Pokemon information... I work a lame ten hour shift, and so I'll space out and think about Pokemon all day to try to help pass the time, and when I get home I'll hit the computer and check up on any ideas I came up with that day.

I don't know, after all this time building teams, revising them, tearing them down, re-building them... I can honestly say that I don't think I'll ever be able to settle on one. Does anyone else have this problem?

a) There are too many pokemon that I like and feel obligated to include.

b) There are too many pokemon that I don't like and refuse to use.

c) I'm really anal when it comes to games that revolve around statistical strategy, and I just can't seem to find a way of covering all the weaknesses that I feel I need to cover. Once I find a problem with my team (which is inevitable) it'll just nag at me until I get to the point where I can't be happy with the team any longer.

What do you guys do? An NPC in the Battle Tower told me, "You need to take things more casually." If only I could. =(
 
here's a helpful reminder via extended metaphor from good 'ol Abraham Lincoln:

"You can counter some of the pokemon all of the time, and all of the pokemon some of the time, but you cannot counter all pokemon all of the time."

That being said, don't worry about all of the pre-battle logistics before you get some common experience with what you currently have *(unless you are teamless completely O_o?*) You WILL end up looking like a fool at some point, even fighting AIs. I recently lost on a 4 Win streak at Singles after going 58 rounds with the same three poke team, Togekiss, Electivire, Weavile. Why? Wise guy comp decided to use Wobbuffett, Vulpix (lol), and a Shedinja.

Wobbs KO'd my leading Togekiss with Mirror Coat :\, i KO'd it with Weavile then switched out on the vulpix to kill with an EQ from Electivire. AI sends out Shedinja which my Electivire can't hit, so i figure to switch out to Weavile. Bad decision. X-Scissor OHKO's her and i'm left with chuffing immune attacks on wonder guard Sheddy while they Shadow Ball/X Scissor me to death.


It did point out to me a mental note to consider using more passive damage via Stealth Rock or Sandstorm once my 6 poke team is formed, experience is key, no matter how humbling it may be.
 
Haha I am exactly the same.. My suggestion is to just build teams, and keep building them..

So, start with any poke you think will be good, and build a teasm around it, and then start with a different poke and build another one.. And then when you have a lot, pick the best one!

As for refusing to use pokemon.. Bleh.. If using Blissey allows you to use Parasect, I think you are gonna be better off than not using either of them..

Have a nice day.
 
Find your own strategy that suits you. If you like quick, fast battles, build a team around that. If you like to stall, use tanks, etc. Weather teams are extremely fun too. Don't worry about countering everything. You get more satisfaction in originality rather than just using the same common standards that everyone uses.
 
I'm having the same problem and I think I'm just going to go with some basic logic than try and counter all the pokes needed. Choose some good pokes you like that fit the roles you need. Your team might not have a definitive counter to Scarfgar or Tauntrados or Heracross or Specsmence (not everyone wants to use Blissey or Crescelia or Empoleon). As long as your team isn't overly weak to said popular pokes and has good synergy you'll do ok.

For example, if your team is all of the normal type (normal/flying, pure normal, etc) or if half your team is weak to ice, but you have a way to work around your weaknesses power to you.
 
Just use pokemon you like, it feels a lot better winning with them than with gyarados, salamence, blissey, cresselia, electivire, gliscor. Unless those happen to be your favorite pokemon which i guess is possible lol.

Just develop a strategy to try and make your team work. You might think something is a problem, but until you actually face it you can't be sure in some cases.
 
I tend to do what Hipno does, as in starting with a particular pokemon or combination I think is cool, and then basing my team around it. It worked for my Jirachi 'Wishmaster' team... I think that's the best way to approach it, though you do have to accept the fact that you may not get use every pokemon you'd like to.
 
I would sugest using Pokemon that you like even if they will get destroyed by other OU Pokemon. An example is I plan to use Charizard
 
Have to agree with just using what you like.

Most of my teams have absolutely horrendous weaknesses yet I still pull out a very large ratio of victories because I know how to play my team inside out. Once you get used to your team and it does suit your style than you'll begin to be able to compensate for weaknesses with good play. When you actually enjoy your team your more likely to try harder.
 
I'm pretty indecisive but I finally got a team going.

I started to look at the D/P pokes in Feb/March, months before the game even came out or I would get it. I finally found a pokemon I loved.
Togekiss. I love him, so I made a team around him.

I'd do the same thing I did, just find a couple of pokes that are your favorites, then work a team to use them.
 
You are not alone in this respect. What I find useful, is to first raise a bunch of things that you like, and start to use them in the battle tower switching out things here and there and this will help you to develop a feel for how certain pokemon work or don't work for you.

A great example of this was Me with Bronzong. When the game first came out I had a general idea that I wanted to raise one of these things but I wasn't sure exactly if I wanted it on any of my teams. I started to raise one and use it in the Battle Tower and against some friends in Wifi Battles, and now I make sure Bronzong is on every one of my teams because it fits my style of play well and is also a useful pokemon in its ownright.
 
My advice as far as countering goes, is don't start off with thinking you have to counter everything, or anything for that matter. Build your team around the strategy and/or Pokemon you want to impose on your opponent first. Then you can make adjustments if your team is wide open to something specific.

Having a 100% foolproof counter for every threat you're likely to face is nigh on impossible. In my opinion, a successful team should first pose a significant threat to the opponent and secondly, not be easily 6-0ed by anything. Most teams have a weakness to something, even if it's only very slight. That's where your prediction skills come in and don't be afraid to sacrifice certain Pokemon if it'll prevent you being swept.
 
That being said, I don't think that that the checklist is good for checking teams. In fact, only really a handful of pokemon on the list pose a threat at all, so it isn't really a problem. Built a team with the pokemon you like, then make some adjustments if you think there is something weak to a specific threat
 
For the past month, I've spent a majority of my free time pouring over Pokemon information... I work a lame ten hour shift, and so I'll space out and think about Pokemon all day to try to help pass the time, and when I get home I'll hit the computer and check up on any ideas I came up with that day.

I don't know, after all this time building teams, revising them, tearing them down, re-building them... I can honestly say that I don't think I'll ever be able to settle on one. Does anyone else have this problem?
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This is almost the same as me, except I work 4 hours (Part time, and school for 7.


I was dead set on Using Scizor, but I also wanted to use Ninjask, Weavile, and Magnezone. Mind you, 2 of those are owned by fighting, 2 by Rock and all 4 by any fire attack. Not a good combo.Obviously I cut some of them. I also cut Blastoise because I felt one BL / UU was enough with Scizor.

I know how it is not wanting to use certain pokes. Blissey pisses me right off, and I really don't want to use it, but if it comes to it, I'll force myself to.
 
My team has a revolving door policy. I looked over all of my favorite pokemon and made a synergistic (is that even a word?) and strategic team with them. Then, I took a further 24 of my favorites for use as subs. That way, I have 30 of my favorite pokemon (coincidentally, that's the size of one box - no, I really don't have OCD) ready to go at any time, and that solves my problem with indecision, for i am just like you. Of course, i'm nowhere near raising all my subs. It's going to take years.
 
Perhaps your style of designing/fickleness is better suited to a competitor style of play, that doesn't require hours of breeding only for you to become bored with said result. I know I'm the same, but I still do it lol
 
Thanks for all of the responses, they're actually encouraging to read.

Despite all the frustration, I still have a lot of fun in the planning phase of teambuilding, so at least there's that. I think I got a lot done last night, and I'm hoping that by the end of the day today I can find something that I'm happy with. I just want to get something up and running at this point. =)

I recognize several of you from previous RMT threads I've posted-- thanks a lot for that as well. I've learned a ton from everyone here, I appreciate it.
 
Despite all the frustration, I still have a lot of fun in the planning phase of teambuilding, so at least there's that. I think I got a lot done last night, and I'm hoping that by the end of the day today I can find something that I'm happy with. I just want to get something up and running at this point. =)
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Once again similar to me. I've always liked planning out strategies. In fact, I'm going to plan out a number of teams. One based around Scizor, one with Blastoise, one with Typhlosion, and I'll see where it all goes from there. There are a lot of Standards I wasn't able to use on my Scizor team because of Fire as well. I like Heracross, Skarmory and Metagross, but I'm fire blastophobic.
 
I think that team building is really a trial and error thing, you can't build a great team from the get-go. Test your idea with a battle, then take your weaknesses/strengths and build on them.

You can see potential weaknesses, but you can't really know weaknesses until you play them out. My team had a Specsmence on it, but then i found out it had a weakness to Mono-water teams once Tangrowth is out. So I added Gyarados in place of Specsmence.

Then my starter, a Choice Scarf Heracross, had problems with Focus Sash starters. So I replaced it with a Choice Band Tyranitar, to abuse SS. I don't even know if its atm perfect, but RMT's may help people see their weaknesses, but you won't know until you try it out for yourself.
 
Violent Storm said:
You are not alone in this respect. What I find useful, is to first raise a bunch of things that you like, and start to use them in the battle tower switching out things here and there and this will help you to develop a feel for how certain pokemon work or don't work for you.

A great example of this was Me with Bronzong. When the game first came out I had a general idea that I wanted to raise one of these things but I wasn't sure exactly if I wanted it on any of my teams. I started to raise one and use it in the Battle Tower and against some friends in Wifi Battles, and now I make sure Bronzong is on every one of my teams because it fits my style of play well and is also a useful pokemon in its ownright.
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That's what I'm doing. Right now, I have all of these pokemon bred and raised to exactly fit whatever build I wanted for them (although some of them I just imported from Emerald/Ruby, where they were already trained) They all happen to be some of my favorite pokemon.

Scizor, Specsmence, DDmence, Dragonite, Porygon-Z, Dusknoir, Togekiss, Heracross, Agiligross, Starmie, Ninjask, Heatran, Azelf, Tangrowth, Gallade, Alakazam, Gardevoir, and, last but not least, Gengar.
 
Heh, i'm exactly the same. I was pretty overwhelmed at all the new pokemon and sets I could use, I just couldn't decide on what to use.

Eventually though, just pick one pokemon you definately want to use (for me it was Rhyperior), and build the team around it.
 
SirSpanky said:
Perhaps your style of designing/fickleness is better suited to a competitor style of play, that doesn't require hours of breeding only for you to become bored with said result. I know I'm the same, but I still do it lol
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I do the exact same thing lol......... Omg, I can't ever decide on a team so I've been breeding my favorites for the past month lol and that way I can at least have a good number to pick from.

I made like 20 different teams which IMO are at least decent, but as soon as I find the slightest weakness, it nags me forever until I hate the team even though I could get around it with prediction.... Kinda dumb but that's how my mind works.
 
I love building teams. So much so, that I have a billion ones saved on NetBattle that I never use. Honestly, wait for Competitor. That is the place to build an infinite amount of teams. Once you find one that you like, start building it in the cartridges. Honestly, it's so easy too think up new teams, but it's not worth the effort of training all of them.
 
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