UU Indeedee

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[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Expanding Force
move 2: Hyper Voice / Dazzling Gleam
move 3: Mystical Fire
move 4: Trick
item: Choice Specs
ability: Psychic Surge
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Choice Specs Indeedee-M is a brutally powerful wallbreaker owing to the ludicrous power of Psychic Terrain-boosted Expanding Force. Virtually any Pokemon that doesn't resist the attack will be completely obliterated; on top of that, frailer Steel-types like Skarmory and Doublade will be cleanly 2HKOed, and even some bulky Pokemon like Calm Mind Hatterene and Celebi struggle to handle Indeedee-M's hits, as both are 2HKOed after Stealth Rock. The Psychic Terrain Indeedee-M summons has other benefits as well; it prevents priority revenge killing attempts from slower Pokemon like Bisharp and Lucario, and it also means that Indeedee-M cannot be crippled by Klefki's Thunder Wave. Hyper Voice acts as a strong secondary STAB move for breaking through Pokemon like Krookodile and Obstagoon; Dazzling Gleam can be used instead, as it does more damage to Dark-types, but it's quite weak otherwise and it means that Pokemon like Necrozma can set up on Indeedee-M. It should be noted, however, that it's Indeedee-M's only way to hit Tyranitar, 2HKOing Choice Band variants and 3HKOing specially defensive ones. Mystical Fire gives Indeedee-M coverage for the few Steel-types that can handle its onslaught like Jirachi and Escavalier while Trick allows it to cripple walls like Umbreon that it just can't get past.

Fighting-types like Terrakion, Cobalion, and Mienshao are excellent partners for Indeedee-M; not only can they pummel Dark-types like Tyranitar and Krookodile for it, the latter two can also bring it in safely on Pokemon like Skarmory and Galarian Weezing with their pivoting moves. Choice Scarf Mienshao can even revenge kill Pokemon that use Indeedee-M as a setup opportunity like Dragon Dance Tyranitar and Swords Dance Incineroar. Other pivots that can bring Indeedee-M in safely like Noivern and Heliolisk are very appreciated, as Indeedee-M's mediocre bulk and typing can make it difficult to actually get onto the field. Noivern in particular stands out as a great partner that can switch into Pokemon like Choice Scarf Mienshao and Cobalion that can revenge kill Indeedee-M. Both of these Pokemon are also capable of chipping Tyranitar with their pivoting moves, making it harder for Tyranitar to check Indeedee-M. Dark-types like Incineroar and Krookodile are helpful partners for Indeedee-M; the former can switch into and handle Jirachi for it, while the latter can revenge kill Jirachi, switch into Tyranitar, and set up Stealth Rock to aid Indeedee-M in picking up KOs on Pokemon like Kyurem. Entry hazard support in general from Pokemon like Rhyperior and Palossand is appreciated for this reason, too. Skarmory can provide Spikes support for Indeedee-M to break down Pokemon like Jirachi and Tyranitar, both of which Skarmory can also check for it. Finally, Bug-resistant Pokemon are important to pair with Indeedee-M because it struggles a lot with common U-turn users like Mienshao and Jirachi; Talonflame stands out as a great partner for this reason, though it must run Flame Body in order to avoid the priority-blocking effect of Psychic Terrain. Flame Body does allow it to potentially cripple threats to Indeedee like Mienshao, though.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Lilburr, 481709]]
- Quality checked by: [[Estarossa, 461329], [Twilight, 344575]]
- Grammar checked by: [[The Dutch Plumberjack, 232216]]
 
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[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Expanding Force
move 2: Hyper Voice / Dazzling Gleam
move 3: Mystical Fire
move 4: Trick
item: Choice Specs
ability: Psychic Surge
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Choice Specs Indeedee is a brutally powerful wallbreaker, owing to the ludicrous power of Expanding Force when boosted by Psychic Terrain. I'd like to see some example that properly demonstrates the raw power it has instead of just using descriptors, especially as the two pokemon you mention after aren't exactly known for being particularly specially bulky (and also take way more then half from it), feel free to choose whatever but an example you could use is it 2HKOing Celebi after Rocks as a resisted move. Virtually any Pokemon that doesn't resist the attack will be completely obliterated; on top of that, frailer Steel-types like Skarmory and Doublade will be cleanly 2HKOd, and even some bulky Pokemon like Calm Mind Hatterene struggle to handle Indeedee's hits. Hyper Voice acts as a strong secondary STAB move for breaking through Pokemon like Krookodile and Obstagoon; Dazzling Gleam can be used instead, as it does more damage to Dark-types, but it's quite weak otherwise and it means that Pokemon like Necrozma can set up on Indeedee. You should 100% note that it gives you a 2HKO on CB ttar, (or 3HKO on spdef), which otherwise just completely stonewalls you. Mystical Fire gives Indeedee coverage for the few Steel-types that can handle its onslaught like Jirachi and Escavalier while Trick allows it to cripple walls it just can't get past like Umbreon.

Fighting-types like Terrakion, Cobalion, and Mienshao are excellent partners for Indeedee; not only can they pummel Dark-types like Tyranitar and Krookodile for it, but the latter two can also bring it in safely on Pokemon like Skarmory and Galarian Weezing with Volt Switch and U-turn, respectively. Choice Scarf Mienshao even stands out as a partner that can revenge kill Pokemon that use Indeedee as a setup opportunity, like Dragon Dance Tyranitar and Swords Dance Bisharp. well yes but not really reliable to SD Bish, you need to basically be at full and that's just not reliable especially since rocks can put you into sucker range. Other pivots that can bring Indeedee in safely, like Noivern and Heliolisk, are very appreciated as Indeedee's mediocre bulk and typing can make it difficult to actually get it onto the field. Noivern in particular stands out as a great partner that can switch into Pokemon like Choice Scarf Mienshao and Cobalion that can revenge kill Indeedee. I suppose you could mention something about these two being able to chip away at Ttar too with U-turn/Volt Switch, since Indeedee absolutely hates ttar unless it has dgleam, and eventually rocks + chip will start making ttar unable to really deal with the combo too well, especially since you are obviously running teammates that can pressure it. Dark-types like Incineroar and Krookodile are helpful partners for Indeedee; the former can switch into and handle Jirachi for it, while the latter can revenge kill Jirachi, switch into Tyranitar, and set up Stealth Rock to aid Indeedee in picking up KOs on Pokemon like Kyurem. Entry hazard support in general from Pokemon like Rhyperior and Palossand is appreciated for this reason, too. Finally, Bug-resistant Pokemon are important to pair with Indeedee because it struggles a lot with common U-turn users like Mienshao and Jirachi; Talonflame stands out as a great partner for this reason, though it must run Flame Body in order to avoid the priority-blocking effects of Psychic Terrain. I mean if you are talking about it dealing with U-turn users you should probably comment on the actual benefits Flame Body offers here too in terms of crippling Rachi :O

Tbh i'd talk about Skarmory too when you talk about hazard support and tie it into the checks to Shao/Jirachi, its spikes support can really help Indeedee pressure checks like TTar / Jirachi way better.



[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Lilburr, 481709]]
- Quality checked by: [[username1, userid1], [username2, userid2]]
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Specs Indeedee go brrrrr. QC 1/2.
 
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[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Expanding Force
move 2: Hyper Voice / Dazzling Gleam
move 3: Mystical Fire
move 4: Trick
item: Choice Specs
ability: Psychic Surge
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Choice Specs Indeedee-M is a brutally powerful wallbreaker(RC), owing to the ludicrous power of Expanding Force when boosted by Psychic Terrain. Virtually any Pokemon that doesn't resist the attack will be completely obliterated; on top of that, frailer Steel-types like Skarmory and Doublade will be cleanly 2HKOd, and even some bulky Pokemon like Calm Mind Hatterene and Celebi struggle to handle Indeedee-M's hits, as both are 2HKOd after Stealth Rock. Psychic Surge has other benefits; the Psychic Terrain it summons The Psychic Terrain Indeedee-M summons has other benefits as well; it ("Psychic Surge summons Psychic Terrain" is not required info. "as well" helps the transition.) prevents priority revenge killing attempts from slower Pokemon like Bisharp and Lucario, and it also means that Indeedee-M cannot be crippled by Klefki's Thunder Wave. Hyper Voice acts as a strong secondary STAB move for breaking through Pokemon like Krookodile and Obstagoon; Dazzling Gleam can be used instead, as it does more damage to Dark-types, but it's quite weak otherwise and it means that Pokemon like Necrozma can set up on Indeedee-M. It should be noted, however, that it's it is (doesn't lead to "it's/its" confusion) Indeedee-M's only way to hit Tyranitar, 2HKOing Choice Band variants and 3HKOing specially defensive ones. Mystical Fire gives Indeedee-M coverage for the few Steel-types that can handle its onslaught like Jirachi and Escavalier while Trick allows it to cripple walls like Umbreon it just can't get past like Umbreon.

Fighting-types like Terrakion, Cobalion, and Mienshao are excellent partners for Indeedee-M; not only can they pummel Dark-types like Tyranitar and Krookodile for it, but the latter two can also bring it in safely on Pokemon like Skarmory and Galarian Weezing with Volt Switch and U-turn, respectively. Choice Scarf Mienshao even stands out as a partner that can can even (we know it stands out because it's one of our first partner recommendations, also makes the later comma removal not cause an overlong sentence) revenge kill Pokemon that use Indeedee-M as a setup opportunity(RC), like Dragon Dance Tyranitar and Swords Dance Incineroar. Other pivots that can bring Indeedee-M in safely like Noivern and Heliolisk are very appreciated as Indeedee-M's mediocre bulk and typing can make it difficult to actually get it onto the field. Noivern in particular stands out as a great partner that can switch into Pokemon like Choice Scarf Mienshao and Cobalion that can revenge kill Indeedee-M. Both of these Pokemon are also capable of chipping Tyranitar with their pivoting moves, making it harder for Tyranitar to check Indeedee-M. Dark-types like Incineroar and Krookodile are helpful partners for Indeedee-M; the former can switch into and handle Jirachi for it, while the latter can revenge kill Jirachi, switch into Tyranitar, and set up Stealth Rock to aid Indeedee-M in picking up KOs on Pokemon like Kyurem. Entry hazard support in general(AC), including from Pokemon like Rhyperior and Palossand(AC), is appreciated for this reason, too. (changes to this sentence made clear you aren't using Entry hazard support in general" alongside Krook's rocks, and makes extra sure to isolate "entry hazard in general" as the focus) Skarmory can similiarly ("similarly" doesn't describe skarms relationship to "entry hazard support mons generally"; it is one among them) provide Spikes support for Indeedee-M to quickly break that also breaks ("also" relative to "entry hazards in general helping it pick up KOs") down Pokemon like Jirachi and Tyranitar, both of which it Skarmory (leading with non-"it" for ambiguity reasons) can check for Indeedee-M, too. it. Finally, Bug-resistant Pokemon are important to pair with Indeedee-M because it struggles a lot with common U-turn users like Mienshao and Jirachi; Talonflame stands out as a great partner for this reason, though it must run Flame Body in order to avoid the priority-blocking effect of Psychic Terrain. Flame Body does mean it can potentially cripple threats to Indeedee like Mienshao, such as when switching into its U-turn, (felt it was worth to explicitly clarify that talonflame benefits from directly switching into mienshao, etc. to rack up burn chances, but if you think not or want to change the specifics, you don't need to keep it or can do that) though.
 

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[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Expanding Force
move 2: Hyper Voice / Dazzling Gleam
move 3: Mystical Fire
move 4: Trick
item: Choice Specs
ability: Psychic Surge
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Choice Specs Indeedee-M is a brutally powerful wallbreaker owing to the ludicrous power of Expanding Force when boosted by Psychic Terrain-boosted Expanding Force. (kinda optional) Virtually any Pokemon that doesn't resist the attack will be completely obliterated; on top of that, frailer Steel-types like Skarmory and Doublade will be cleanly 2HKOd 2HKOed, and even some bulky Pokemon like Calm Mind Hatterene and Celebi struggle to handle Indeedee-M's hits, as both are 2HKOd 2HKOed after Stealth Rock. The Psychic Terrain Indeedee-M summons has other benefits as well; it prevents priority revenge killing attempts from slower Pokemon like Bisharp and Lucario, and it also means that Indeedee-M cannot be crippled by Klefki's Thunder Wave. Hyper Voice acts as a strong secondary STAB move for breaking through Pokemon like Krookodile and Obstagoon; Dazzling Gleam can be used instead, as it does more damage to Dark-types, but it's quite weak otherwise and it means that Pokemon like Necrozma can set up on Indeedee-M. It should be noted, however, that it's Indeedee-M's only way to hit Tyranitar, 2HKOing Choice Band variants and 3HKOing specially defensive ones. Mystical Fire gives Indeedee-M coverage for the few Steel-types that can handle its onslaught like Jirachi and Escavalier, (AC) while Trick allows it to cripple walls like Umbreon that it just can't get past.

Fighting-types like Terrakion, Cobalion, and Mienshao are excellent partners for Indeedee-M; not only can they pummel Dark-types like Tyranitar and Krookodile for it, but the latter two can also bring it in safely on Pokemon like Skarmory and Galarian Weezing with Volt Switch and U-turn, respectively their pivoting moves. (or just kill respectively) Choice Scarf Mienshao can even revenge kill Pokemon that use Indeedee-M as a setup opportunity like Dragon Dance Tyranitar and Swords Dance Incineroar. Other pivots that can bring Indeedee-M in safely like Noivern and Heliolisk are very appreciated, (AC) as Indeedee-M's mediocre bulk and typing can make it difficult to actually get onto the field. Noivern in particular stands out as a great partner that can switch into Pokemon like Choice Scarf Mienshao and Cobalion that can revenge kill Indeedee-M. Both of these Pokemon are also capable of chipping Tyranitar with their pivoting moves, making it harder for Tyranitar to check Indeedee-M. Dark-types like Incineroar and Krookodile are helpful partners for Indeedee-M; the former can switch into and handle Jirachi for it, while the latter can revenge kill Jirachi, switch into Tyranitar, and set up Stealth Rock to aid Indeedee-M in picking up KOs on Pokemon like Kyurem. Entry hazard support in general from Pokemon like Rhyperior and Palossand is appreciated for this reason, too. Skarmory can provide Spikes support for Indeedee-M to break down Pokemon like Jirachi and Tyranitar, both of which Skarmory can also check for it. Finally, Bug-resistant Pokemon are important to pair with Indeedee-M because it struggles a lot with common U-turn users like Mienshao and Jirachi; Talonflame stands out as a great partner for this reason, though it must run Flame Body in order to avoid the priority-blocking effect of Psychic Terrain. Flame Body does mean it can allow it to potentially cripple threats to Indeedee like Mienshao, though.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Lilburr, 481709]]
- Quality checked by: [[Estarossa, 461329], [Twilight, 344575]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]
 

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