Inheritance Inheritance

[CYalo]

Anyone know how to make a defensive team that can beat all the Magic Guard users? Like what are some sets that can beat Magic Guard that still work on defensive teams

 

[CosmicEncounter]

There's no way Terapagos-Stellar is supposed to be an outright chooseable pokemon, is there? Because it currently is, and seems to validate properly.

 

[Schpoonman]

There's no way Terapagos-Stellar is supposed to be an outright chooseable pokemon, is there? Because it currently is, and seems to validate properly.

It reverts to base Terapagos upon battle start.

 

[Dorsia]

Hi there, I'd like to talk about some forgotten donors that might have potential:

1.

It has access to Rocks, Poltergeist, Dynamic Punch, Stone Edge + No Guard, Knock Off, elemental punches, Drain Punch and Trick if you mind running Choice Band/Scarf.
Potential inhheritors: , , ...

CB Annihilape

Annihilape @ Choice Band
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly / Adamant Nature
- Poltergeist
- Dynamic Punch
- Stone Edge
- Trick

2.

Do you like sun teams? Chlorophyll + Growth with decent special movepool including Solar Beam, Earth Power, Weather Ball, Sludge Bomb, Dazzling Gleam and Giga Drain. Also Solar Power exists, show no mercy.
Potential inheritors: , , ...

Growth Iron-Moth

Iron Moth @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Chlorophyll
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Growth
- Sludge Bomb
- Weather Ball
- Earth Power

3.

Chlorophyll + Growth but it has Knock Off, Dark Pulse, Focus Blast, Low Kick...so you might run mixed sets as well to counter classic defensive cores.
Potential inheritors: , , ...

Growth Chi-Yu

Chi-Yu @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Chlorophyll
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Rash Nature
- Growth
- Dark Pulse
- Weather Ball
- Knock Off / Focus Blast

4.
A pretty wild movepool including Dragon Dance/CM/SD, EQ/Earth Power, Knock Off, Photon Geyser, SR, Morning Sun, Heat Wave, Stone Edge...also Prism Armor + Weakness Policy can be cool with U-Turn being everywhere.
Potential inheritors: , , ...

DD Iron Boulder

Iron Boulder @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Prism Armor
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Stone Edge
- Photon Geyser
- Earthquake

Have fun using them!

 

[Don Vascus]

Triage is getting suspect tested! Due to the new system, a suspect prefix isn't needed no more, but i advocate that your sus alt starts with TRI, because its fun to know who do you need to snipe

 

[Dorsia]

Triage is getting suspect tested! Due to the new system, a suspect prefix isn't needed no more, but i advocate that your sus alt starts with TRI, because its fun to know who do you need to snipe

I won't miss that shit to be honest.
I hope it get banned so I won't have to run Zarude/Tsareena anymore.

Also in my last post I could have mentioned as a donor (Coil + Levitate + Drain Punch/Supercell Slam/Knock Off...)

 

[InkyDarkBird]

Why is Decidueye-Hisui/Triple Arrows allowed? Any inheritor of Decidueye-Hisui becomes ridiculously uncompetitive by being able to hax through defensive walls, and forcing the usage of Covert Cloak means sacrificing Heavy-Duty-Boots or Rocky Helmet.

With Annihilape as an inheritor, you have to OHKO it to avoid it Bulking Up and Roosting, which doesn't seem easy given its 110 base HP and Ghost/Fighting defensive type. With Zapdos-Galar, you have to face down both STAB Brave Bird and Triple Arrows paired with Swords Dance, which cannot be resisted by any defensive Pokemon.

 

[CoolTrainerGary]

Why is Decidueye-Hisui/Triple Arrows allowed? Any inheritor of Decidueye-Hisui becomes ridiculously uncompetitive by being able to hax through defensive walls, and forcing the usage of Covert Cloak means sacrificing Heavy-Duty-Boots or Rocky Helmet.

With Annihilape as an inheritor, you have to OHKO it to avoid it Bulking Up and Roosting, which doesn't seem easy given its 110 base HP and Ghost/Fighting defensive type. With Zapdos-Galar, you have to face down both STAB Brave Bird and Triple Arrows paired with Swords Dance, which cannot be resisted by any defensive Pokemon.

i basically agree... for me urshifu and !decidueye would be up next for suspect.

the devil's advocate would be that the best abusers have middling speed tiers, are weak to status like toxic, clef!zap/thundy, and gliscor counters are really good and splashable, other more niche counters exist (quag!pex, unaware deo-d, enam) in addition to covert cloak stuff like you mentioned. that said, i think it's worth a suspect in the future. part of me enjoys having them around bc they are awesome stallbreakers and a counterbalance to bulky spike-stack teams.

 

[CoolTrainerGary]

Sylveon @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonlight
- Stealth Rock/Knock Off/T-Wave
- Moonblast
- Calm Mind

Wanted to share an unorthodox set that counters Comfey and Garganacl. Can serve as a backup check to Decidueye.