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Mafia vs Village Jojo's Bizarre Mafia: Stardust Crusaders. Game Ora - Dio is Avenged

Jalmont said:
If you sign up to play a game and decide to quit because things are not going your way, then no, you don't have the right to sub out. It is disrespectful not only to the host, but to the other players in the game, and to the players who have to sub in. Quitting ruins the game for everyone else. Don't sign up if you don't want to play and let someone who does want to play play. It makes it harder to find subs for people who actually need one, and seriously disadvantages one's team.

If the punishment is "well maybe some hosts in the future won't include some people who exhibit bad behavior" then there is no reason for anyone to change their behavior. I would rather see tangible punishments for serial offenders which should be the responsibility of the moderators of this forum instead of pushing that responsibility onto hosts who may or may not decide to enforce a punishment for a user who ruined a game that is irrelevant to the one they are hosting.
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Not to get on Twin's case on this game, but I think we ought to bring back the blacklist for the upcoming official, so none of this kind of stuff happens there. You could make it a visible part of the rules that unsportsmanlike behavior can get you blacklisted, and ragesubbing is part of that.

Uh, just wanted to say that. As for the game, I think it was pretty cool. The roles were diverse enough, mafia team had unique kill modifiers and the neutral was pretty good. Good job designing the game guys. Play-wise too, village played great and so did jalmont. On our end, we should have told pancake to sortie with you on the spot instead of coming anonymously, maybe then you wouldn't have wasted your shot and locked yourself into the village/neutral route.

I'm not sure why people hate piercing kills / expert kills / unblockable kills so much, whatever you wanna call them. They're a great way to nerf village leadership. The only time it's stupid and OP is when the mafia can just use it all the time and it renders the BGs useless, like the Life Orb.

Also, if flavor can affect how roles work like what happened with Shubaka's internet/von question, it should be a really prominent feature. Like, the hosts should really really let you know that roles can interact really weirdly because of flavor. It makes the game play out all different because you can't trust roles to work as you expect them to. Like, in this game it didn't end up mattering too much, but if the shubaka/internet lynch lost village the game, you would have gotten a lot of angry villagers, if I get the story right.

That's it from me. Go watch Jojo if you haven't. :mad:
 
I'd be ok with saying that you can't quit solely because you are losing but the issue is that then people could just make up other reasons they need to sub out.

Frankly what I'd prefer is just saying 'if you sub out of 2-3 games in a row then you'll be added to an 'unreliable players' list, and if, after getting into future games, you continue to sub out of them then at some point (based on circumstances) you will be blacklisted'.

Basically I'd rather just have a catch-all regarding subbing out or AFKing period, regardless of the reasons. Punishments can be doled out according to circumstances, but frankly I'd rather go with this route. If people want to contact the hosts ahead of time saying they will need to sub on X day or something that could obviously be an exception.
 
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Idk I thought I needed context and I couldn't just jump to season 3. I'll get bored enough to watch it eventually.

Oh also the one disconnect I got this game was it seemed like village had a lot of ways to prevent DIO from getting lynched but the mafia didn't really have ways to instigate a lynch. IIRC there wasn't a persuader, and what I thought my lynchguard role suggested was the possibility of a high vote mayor from the village that could be exploited, or some kind of way for mafia to control the lynch in a limited way by using unique abilities effectively.
 
honestly we haven't built up enough of an expansive playlist to consider blacklisting/harsh punishments for ragesubbing. ragesubbing, whilst a fucking gay move, is still up to the player. can't force a player to play something he doesn't want to play.
 
Just pubshame people like Twin and zorbees who have reputations for butthurtsubbing or ragesubbing respectively.

If everyone agrees their actions are bent in public and nobody condones such behavior it sets the tone for newbies this is not desired behavior.

Post re: the game/postgame comin l8r
 
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