joke team thats peaked 28th on OU ladder

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remlabmez

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Alright so I made this team after I got bored using stall on my other account katy perryz. I decided that since stall is a very stable way to get high on ladder, I decided to try an all out offensive team and try my luck out with it. Turns out that a joke offensive team I made with my friend Indra turned out to be decent.

Anyways on to the team
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Aerodactyl (M) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Taunt
- Rock Slide

I'm not a very big fan of suicide leads but since this was suppose to be a full out offensive I decided I would try it out. The reason I choose Aero over azelf and metagross is because they dont keep SR off the field or prevent a team from getting a good start off. Also with scarfloom starting to make a rise as a lead aero makes a great canidate to be a typical suicide lead that SRs and annoys stuff with taunt.
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Magnezone @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Magnet Pull
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Naive nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Explosion
- Flash Cannon
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Thunderbolt

Alright since I was making an offensive team and scizor is the most used pokemon, why not use the good ole gyra/mence - maggy combo that resist every attack between these pokemon which makes life easier when trying to predict an opponent. I usually send in maggy after aero dies as I am not scared to let my opponent know I have a scarf maggy, it actually scares people into brining in scizor or maggy into play which I like to use to my advantage. It handles bulky waters very well except for pert.
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Heatran (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Naive nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Earth Power
- Explosion
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power [Grass]

Here we have heatran, another check for the number 1 used pokemon, ive never really used LO on heatran as I always scarf it or specs it. I decided that I will try out this and it has been amazing thus far. It helps me out greatly agianst stall as blissey tries to predict when im goin to explode and makes me force switches into rotom who does not like LO FB at all, HP grass helps me deal with perts who are cocky and think they can setup SR or try to roar. Explosion is for blisseys and other random stuff that I think might be a threat to my team. This pokemon has been amazing and I regret not using LO heatran sooner.
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Gyarados (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk/6 Def/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Ice Fang / stone edge
- Waterfall

Meh I realize my EV spread for this gyra is pretty shitty, if anyone could help me out it would be nice! I choose jolly because I got tired of random pokemon coming in who could out speed me ( mostly talking about jolteon coming in on adamant DD gyra ). So I decided to go with Jolly and I choose LO to give me that extra kick that I am missing from being adamant. Easily setups on lead perts who have been taunted by my aero.
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Salamence (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Naive nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Draco Meteor
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Outrage

Not many people use scarf mence at all, everyone goes with LOLMIXMENCE and stuff, I find that a scarf on mence is an amazing revenge killer. It lets me revenge sub petaya empoleon who has gotten an agility off, lets me revenge agility gross and all other random pokemon who get some type of speed boost. I do realize that my mence is SR weak and isnt able to come in all the time and revenge, but thats why I have aero lead, whos main job is to prevent SR and let my teams pressure from ever letting SR get on the field. No sr on the field makes gyra/mence and maggy combo be amazing.
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Scizor (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Technician
EVs: 96 HP/252 Atk/162 SDef
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Bullet Punch
- Pursuit
- Superpower
- U-turn

Weird EV spread I know, its used as a general counter to stuff that hits from the special side. If anyone has a better special defensed EV spread for scizor by all means please give it to me. Not much else to say about this guy, uturn for scouting, bp for late game sweepage to clean up what my team couldnt finish off.

Well thats the team, please feel free to make fun of the team all you want :D. It started off as a joke team that
 
For a joke team this is surprisingly well made. Its success is a testament to that but also a testament to how easy the leaderboard is. Having said that this team is actually really succesful because it uses gimics to rip apart the metagame like Jolly Gyarados = bye Jolteon.

Your lead isnt very gimiccy though ;( I think aerodactyl is the correct pokemon for the job but i just wonder how useful EQ actually is on aerodactyl. Compared to say Toxic which helps much more against Hippowdon and Swampert which could stop some of your team with their superb defense and Swamperts Ice Beam. You would then be prone to other set up sweepers lacking your main revenge killer, which is not good.
EQ doesnt actually hit that much after youve taunted then SRed. Heatran is really the only example i can think of that may be problematic but the flinches from Rock Slide should finish it off.

I dont really like Scarf Magnezone particularly when you have a counters for Lucario and Scizor in your team. I would suggest a mixape or an SD ape with Mach Punch just to start battering down the walls from the off. Although you would lose a valuable Dragon resist as well as the other resistances that go with Steel-types. Jolteon may be a consideration for sweeping potential and Volt Absorb but you lose to Lucario more easily. Perhaps Magnezone is the best option but its not the perfect pokemon.

The rest works well but i have a preferable EV spread for Scizor that will help you against an Offensive latias which could be problematic. This alternative EV spread guarantess survival and generally increases your SP.Def. 240 HP/56 Atk/212 SDef. Though your current spread may be preferred. I was thinking you may want to go with LO Scizor gives you more options something like SD U-turn BP Superpower. Less likely to be trapped by Magnezone. Finally i think you have a bit of a weakness to CMers but you should be able to handle them. The main problems are CM celebi with Earth POwer and HP fire. Which would pretty much rip your core to shreads outspeedin and OHKOing much of your team i guess you could always explode on it but i would just be careful if it manages to get a CM.

Hope this helped.

Good Luck.
 
I like it. I was going to say Gyarados weakness, but I didn't see the Scarf Salamence. Either way, Tyranitar + Gyarados on an opposing team will give you a lot of headaches. If Tyranitar pursuits Salamence on a Draco Meteor, Gyarados can come in after a DD and sweep your team.

Why not run something like Scarf Rotom over Magnezone. Magnezone is really dead-weight considering all it does is trap Scizor and some Forretress. At least Scarf Rotom can still counter these threats and Trick off the scarf, somewhat more useful than Maggy in my opinion.

Everything else is pretty solid, not much to critique. Good job.
 
everyone is picking on magnezone... lol
But Rotom should probably at least be tested because he does have more of an impact hitting more threats in the current metagame, and netting you some useful immunities.
 
Would replacing Scarfmence with Scarfgon be a better option? Both accomplish the same objective (revenging Agiligross, Agilipoleon). While it doesn't hit as hard, it can scout and keep the momentum going with U-turn. It also gives you an immunity to Thunderbolt, which on paper looks like it can rip through your team.
 
Pokemon Red said:
Would replacing Scarfmence with Scarfgon be a better option? Both accomplish the same objective (revenging Agiligross, Agilipoleon). While it doesn't hit as hard, it can scout and keep the momentum going with U-turn. It also gives you an immunity to Thunderbolt, which on paper looks like it can rip through your team.
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Part of the appeal of ScarfMence is that it hits harder but more importantly is that it is unexpected unlike the popular Flygon because of this it will revenge kill threats more easily as they are more likely to stay in on it. Though a Flygon does have its bonuses i think the gimic that is ScarfMence is a better option. It fits the team better too.

I also agree with ToF's suggestion that a Scarf Rotom is a good choice over Magnezone. I cant believe i didnt suggest it but i still stick to either Jolteon or this in your team over Magnezone. THe reason for this is that stall walls Magezone with Rotom appliance or bulky ground whilst Trick wrecks stall. Rotom also helps you beat Lucario easily. Jolteon, provided you can remove Blissey will also beat stall either LO or Specs will work.
 
First of all iKitsune, none of the pokemon he is using are gimmicks. It's like you don't even know what the word even means or your actually trying to look like an idiot. A gimmick is something like Swagger/Punishment Weavile, not a Jolly Gyarados with a standard moveset and EV spread.

I'm going to make a few suggestions, but you seem to have had some success with the team, so don't pay any mind if you like the team so far.
Drop Magnezone for a Scarfed Celebi using this set;
Celebi@Choice Scarf
Timid/Natural Cure
4 HP or Def/252 SpA/252 Spe
• Leaf Storm
• Earthpower
• Hidden Power [Ice]
• Trick
This Celebi gives you a weapon to actually break stall for starters. Leaf Storm hits surprisingly hard. It is equal in strength to a Dragonite's Max SpA Neutral natured Dracor Meteor, except for the grass typing. Earthpower and Hidden Power Ice provide some nice coverage. Hidden Power Ice is more desirable than Hidden Power Fire because you've got two checks to Scizor and this offers some assistance with Salamence that's gotten a DD up. This also gives you a more offensive minded Celetran+Water in Gyarados.

Now that you have a revenge killer that's not weak to SR and can hold its own, I would make Salamence a MixMence set lol. Either classic or modern set works fine in my opinion.
 
Star Shaper said:
First of all iKitsune, none of the pokemon he is using are gimmicks. It's like you don't even know what the word even means or your actually trying to look like an idiot. A gimmick is something like Swagger/Punishment Weavile, not a Jolly Gyarados with a standard moveset and EV spread.

I'm going to make a few suggestions, but you seem to have had some success with the team, so don't pay any mind if you like the team so far.
Drop Magnezone for a Scarfed Celebi using this set;
Celebi@Choice Scarf
Timid/Natural Cure
4 HP or Def/252 SpA/252 Spe
• Leaf Storm
• Earthpower
• Hidden Power [Ice]
• Trick
This Celebi gives you a weapon to actually break stall for starters. Leaf Storm hits surprisingly hard. It is equal in strength to a Dragonite's Max SpA Neutral natured Dracor Meteor, except for the grass typing. Earthpower and Hidden Power Ice provide some nice coverage. Hidden Power Ice is more desirable than Hidden Power Fire because you've got two checks to Scizor and this offers some assistance with Salamence that's gotten a DD up. This also gives you a more offensive minded Celetran+Water in Gyarados.

Now that you have a revenge killer that's not weak to SR and can hold its own, I would make Salamence a MixMence set lol. Either classic or modern set works fine in my opinion.
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he means gimmick in that most of the sets arent the same ones noobs run off and copy from smogon. Maybe you should be a little less aggressive in what you say... Also, celebi is outclassed by rotom in terms of the pokemon he needs to counter.
 
Thanks for the suggestions so far, I will try to play test scarf rotom over scarf maggy but I will sure miss the steel resist and its amazing coverage with mence and gyra.

I might also try out toxic over eq on aero, im still a little hesitant on that although heatrans never come in nor stay on aero anyways.

As for the celebi suggestion, it just wont blend will with my team IMO, I dont like the idea of getting easily handled by scizor with no hp fire nor being able to come in safely on anything mence has to offer. I also dont really have much trouble with stall, although I havent faced a good one yet >_>

I guess il go with a overheat / tbolt / shadowball / trick rotom see how that goes.

Thanks for the all the posts so far
 
Best Team I have seen lately on Smogon Forums......

Anyways ya, you should change zone to rotom. Only thing i can think of trapping with zone would be lead iron heard jirachi but thats pretty much it.
 
Maji said:
Best Team I have seen lately on Smogon Forums......

Anyways ya, you should change zone to rotom. Only thing i can think of trapping with zone would be lead iron heard jirachi but thats pretty much it.
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Scizor, Skarm and Forry (though now most of them run shed shell so less likely), Bronzong


I am not saying he should keep it, just that it has its uses on his team and is a pretty important part to his resistances.
 
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