Lapras (Update) [QC 0/2]

Don't know if I'm allowed to do this but I wrote up a Lapras Revamp... The one online looked a little weak. By the way I have no idea how to upload the proper syntax so I might learn and re do it.


[OVERVIEW]
<p>Lapras represents the blue-collar Pokemon in the RBY metagame. Lapras does not have the flashy Psychic or Normal typing, the extremely high offensive stat, or an almost a total lack of weaknesses. Lapras survives by being a sort of jack-of-all-trades Pokemon; much like Snorlax, Lapras can fulfill many roles on a given team without much move changes. It primarily does this through its bulk and powerful STAB Blizzard. Lapras is one of the best checks to the Physicals in the game. No Tauros or Snorlax will ever try to beat a full health Lapras, and Rhydon and Golem are easily OHKOed. Lapras also can, with luck and Confuse Ray, have a chance against Chansey (pun intended), something few other non-exploding special attackers can claim. Lapras also happens to be one of the best Exeggutor counters in the game, as it out speeds and 2HKO’s it with Blizzard. Lapras serves as a stopgap check to almost anything; Lapras’ bulk and movepool allows it to take a hit and retaliate with an appropriate response.</p>

<p>However, there is a Pokemon Lapras is often compared to: Starmie. Starmie has the holy grail of stalling in RBY with an instant recovery move, the Psychic typing, and a much higher speed stat, giving it a doubled critical hit rate. Starmie also eventually beats Lapras one on one with its Thunderbolt. While the competition often leads to Lapras’ underuse, Lapras does have significantly greater physical and special bulk due to its enormous HP stat. This allows Lapras to be a much better response to Snorlax and Tauros than Starmie. Lapras needs to be played to its strengths in order to be effective, as it can be worn down relatively easily throughout the battle, but it often can throw a monkey wrench into an opponent’s plan when used correctly.</p>

[STANDARD]

Blizzard
Thunderbolt
Body Slam
Confuse Ray/Sing/Rest

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This set can hit most Pokemon in the game for good damage. Blizzard allows Lapras to hammer Exeggutor, Zapdos, Golem, and Rhydon for a 2HKO on the former two and OHKO’s on the latter two. Blizzard hits for about as much as Alakazam’s Psychic, and even does a good deal to Chansey. Thunderbolt gives Lapras a good chance against its fellow Water types, hitting Starmie, Lapras, Cloyster, and especially Slowbro hard. Body Slam is all around a great tool to try and fish for a paralysis on an incoming Chansey and Starmie that often switch in on Lapras. It also gives an attack to effectively damage Chansey without wasting precious Blizzard PP.</p>

<p>The choice for the option in the last slot often can be difficult. Confuse Ray gives Lapras the ability to get lucky and defeat a Chansey. Although Body Slam is often only a 4HKO, Chansey can get hit with Confusion enough to prevent if from healing or attacking. Sing, on the other hand, acts as a surprise to the opponent. Despite its 55% accuracy, many people try to not to get their Chansey or Starmie slept. This gives Lapras the opportunity to sleep them, giving a much greater chance to defeat them. Sing should be run without a traditional sleep lead in order to preserve the surprise. Rest gives Lapras a chance to recover health, a crucial problem it often has. However, Lapras does not really hard wall any pokemon except Articuno, so it often struggles to wake up in any better condition than it was.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Lapras is often played in two ways. Lapras can either be conserved to fight the Physicals, or it can be used early game to try and get wreak havoc on an opponent. Lapras often does not carry a recovery move, and does not enjoy taking many Snorlax or Tauros Body Slams. As such, try to get Lapras in on an Earthquake or Blizzard to get the best use out of its abilities. As stated before, Lapras if often vulnerable to being worn down, and should be preserved if used to counter physicals. In its other role, Lapras often finds its way in on an Exeggutor to hammer the opponents core with a Blizzard or a status move. This can be used to scout an opposing team, or fish for a defeat on Chansey or Starmie. However, these roles are not mutually exclusive; Lapras can and often does of these roles both in the course of battle.</p>

<p>Lapras, despite being slow, has just enough speed to outspeed Exeggutor and Chansey. As such, Lapras does not enjoy being paralyzed, like most pokemon. Being paralyzed also allows Rhydon and Golem to counter Lapras, as they hammer it with Rock Slide. However, Lapras still functions under paralysis, as it doesn’t hamper it too much otherwise. Lapras should also be played as more than just a standalone pokemon. Lapras should try and form a core with something like an Exeggutor to take Ice attacks and Electric attacks. Rest Exeggutor plays well with Lapras as they can often play off of each other’s resistances to get Exeggutor through the sleep. Lapras can also be played with either Rhydon or Golem to try and chain switch a Blizzard for Lapras to switch in on. However, a smart opponent will often catch on and foil this the second time, so only try this once.</p>

[OTHER OPTIONS]

<p>Despite Lapras’ relatively large movepool, it does not really have any other options. Lapras can try and Reflect to better help with Physicals, but Lapras’ most common switch ins are specialists, making Reflect useless. It does have some use if the opponent only has physicals left, though. Lapras can try and use Hyper Beam to finish off opposing Chansey, yet this strategy can fail due to people often switching out confused Pokemon. Lapras can fish for a good move with Mimic; a Lapras with Recover is very difficult to take down. However, this is very inconsistent, and Lapras has good enough options to take advantage of. Lapras could try and use a water move. However, Lapras already OHKOs Rhydon and Golem with Blizzard, making the only use of it to hit Jynx with a special attack.</p>

[CHECKS AND COUNTERS]

<p>Chansey and Starmie often prove to be good initial switch ins to Lapras. Chansey often can defeat Lapras by paralyzing and Thunderbolting it; Lapras' chances of luck beating Chansey drop significantly when it’s paralyzed. It should be noted that a Chansey without Thunderbolt is completely walled by Lapras, but Lapras won’t be able to do anything back, depending on what the final move is. Counter Chansey and Reflect Chansey wall Lapras right back unless Lapras gets really lucky with critical hits and confuse ray. While Starmie must watch for a Thunderbolt, it can often stall it out and hit Lapras with its own Thunderbolt. A series of bad luck can also doom Starmie, so it should not be relied on to take Lapras repeatedly, as it can be hammered by Thunderbolt.</p>

<p>Jolteon, and to an extent, Zapdos are good counters to Lapras. Both Thunderbolts do major damage to Lapras, however, Zapdos must avoid switching into Blizzard. Jolteon has a relatively good Special, so it can afford to switch in to a Blizzard. Switching into a Body Slam is not the greatest idea due to its Paralysis chance, though. Early-game, it might not be a good idea to reveal these two, as well. Alakazam also can provide a shaky check to Lapras. It can paralyze Lapras and then hit it with Psychic. However, it is 3HKO’ed by Blizzard and Body Slam, making it a shaky check.</p>

<p>Paralysis goes a long way to defeating Lapras. When a player uses Lapras, it is used a utility counter, so it will take damage and often paralysis. Lapras takes good damage from almost everything except ice attacks. Since it rarely carries Rest, a good plan to beating Lapras is to simply paralyze it and hit it with what is out. Lapras takes 40-47% of its health from a Tauros Hyper Beam, so getting in range is often all that’s needed to bum rush it in the end game.</p>
 

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few things

you need to follow the formatting guide to the letter, do that asap (ie. you need [Overview] <p></p> tags, etc.)

the other matter is that user Crystal_ had reserved this revamp in the reservation thread (which I've just now retitled). If he's ok with you writing this up, then it's cool with me. However, he's free to make any changes he sees fit and if he'd like to write it up himself he is also free to do so. Regardless, I'm sure he'll have some critiques.

And as a final note, you need to replace all of the curly ’ apostrophes with the straight ASCII ' and ". Also be sure to take a gander at the Smogon grammar standards
 
Oh, thanks, wow I didn't look at the reservation thread... perhaps I should do that. Crystal can take this over if wanted it does not matter to me. I've fixed the paragraph syntax and made it look like the one in the C&C guide, with the exception of the straight apostrophes. This is the first time I've done this so bear with me.
 
oh well

I actually wouldn't have been able to start working on this until in about one month, although when I reserved Lapras earlier last month I thought that I would have been able to write the analysis a lot earlier but I just couldn't find time and had other priorities. Maybe I should've started a thread myself because my post in the reservation thread is now lost in the middle on the page and harder to notice. I just felt it wasn't a good idea considering the thread would be dead for at least a month.

In any case, the deadline I set for myself has been surpassed for almost a month already so in this sense it was a bit unfair to reserve a Pokemon and have it on lock for almost 3 months in total until I start working on it. So yeah, go ahead with it johnnyg2. What you've got there is actually really good quality wise imo; my main concern was that maybe you didn't have enough knowledge to make a good quality update but I have read through your article and it's pretty good. There are only few a things I disagree with; I'll try to come up with a post addressing some suggestions later today.

Though for the next time, remember to have a look at the reservation thread!
 

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That being said, a formal "statute of limitations" should probably be placed on the reservation thread where, say, if the analysis isn't posted within a couple weeks or so, the reservation is nullified.
 
I have had a long a busy day so for now the only things im going to suggest are:

Move Hyper Beam from OO to SC. It's perhaps not as useful as the main set slashed moves, but HB is certainly better than Reflect and Mimic by a whole lot.

Maybe explain a bit about with two-move combinations to pick. Other than Cray+BS, Rest generally goes better with Cray, but Sing is usually paired with Body Slam.

Paralysis helps Lapras waking up from rest. Rest Lapras still has a good chance to rest loop a paralyzed Snorlax. Rest Lapras walls Cloyster for that matter, which is more relevant pokemon than articuno for that matter. (okay bar multiple clamps in a row, too unlikely).

In counters give Zam more protagonism. it's at least on par with Starmie as a lapras check. Okay, paralyzed zam isnt doing as well when trying to switch into a faster lapras, but the same can be said about starm.
In general, lapras generally has resorces to get past one recoverer (sing, fps, parafusion, hyper beam to low healths, blizz/tbolt still doing good damage to zam/starm) but 2+ recoverers give lapras a very hard time. It also depends on how much residual damage lapras is taking, if it's having to switch into stab body slams, egg's psychic or golem/rhydon attacks everytime, it's going to struggle to do anything offensively most of the times.

In general Chansey >> Starmie / Alakazam > Gengar / Jolteon. Zapdos is eeh.

Put more emphasis that be best option to keep lapras is check is having 2+ recover users ready to switch into it. 3 is an overkill i know. But only one is when Lapras can put a lot of pressure.

Lapras is often played in two ways. Lapras can either be conserved to fight the Physicals, or it can be used early game to try and get wreak havoc on an opponent.
slow this down imo. Change it to put pressure on opponents. Plus, Lapras generally can be used to do both things at the same time or at least try to, and that's the best thing about Lapras. Mainly because both thigns are independent of time; you may need to siwtch into snorlax early and you can use lapras offensively both early or late game. also offense and defense are so intertwined in rby. that line just feel weird idk, maybe it was a stupid comment though sorry about that im just very tired.
 
"No Tauros or Snorlax will ever try to beat a full health Lapras, and Rhydon and Golem are easily OHKOed."

Lapras Blizzard vs. Tauros: 159-187 (45 - 52.9%) -- 27.7% chance to 2HKO
Lapras Blizzard vs. Snorlax: 164-193 (31.3 - 36.9%) -- 78% chance to 3HKO
Lapras Blizzard vs. Rhydon: 398-468 (96.3 - 113.3%) -- 76.9% chance to OHKO

Not worthy of that kind of hyperbole. Tauros and Snorlax have a decent chance of beating Lapras toe-to-toe (both can 3HKO it, though it's admittedly unlikely for Tauros without a crit, and Body Slam para is a bitch), and Rhydon is not "easily" OHKOed as it has a 27% chance of surviving a Lapras Blizzard (miss, or hit + non-crit + not OHKOed + not frozen).

Always check your numbers.

Also Lapras isn't a better response to Tauros than Starmie as Starmie outspeeds it and can Thunder Wave, easily making up for the lesser bulk. Snorlax ehh I guess but Cloyster's way better than either at squashing Snorlax thanks to Clamp.

Oh and Lapras' Thunderbolt cannot 2HKO Starmie without a crit; this is a really big deal and should be mentioned in Starmie's section of Checks and Counters. Thunder should be mentioned in Other Options for the same reason.
 
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johnnyg2 hasn't been on since his last post itt, moving to l&o

magic or crystal, if you'd like to take this over and make the necessary edits that'd be super cool
 

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