How can you know this isn't it's intended state? Protean is a far more likely ability than we have with Technician, since there is at least an actual basis in logic there via relation.
How can you know it doesn't have adaptability? How can you know it doesn't have huge power? We're playing a fake metagame, dumbass, stop acting like there needs to be precedent for any of these LARP Megas to have any given ability. If I wanted to use Protean Greninja, you know what I would use? Protean Greninja. Giving the Mega the same ability is just lame.
We don’t know what ability it’ll get for sure, but Huge Power isn’t a possibility since it doesn’t have more than +100 BST like Mega Mawile/Medicham got in ZA.
I really wanna see the Inner Focus or Stamina on Mega Lucha, it's make so much sense and is so much better (y'all sleeping on Inner Focus Lucha, my VGC friends know how this shi is good and potentially scaryHere's my thoughts on the tier from my 60 games.
If you are the kind of guy to just put 6 random breakers in your team and click buttons to check out the tier, then you will absolutely love it, and I recommend you play it right now because you'd truly be missing out on some of the most fun you'll ever have on showdown. If you are like me however, and prefer playing balance builds, then you will quickly regret your life decisions because this is an extremely unbalanced tier filled to the brim with unstoppable breakers of all kind.(mega)
(mega and non-mega)
are all simply unwallable period no questions asked.
(mega) is the best balance breaker of all time, and you still have familiar faces like
still doing what they've always been doing. I am skipping on many more mons here, but when even stuff like
look tame in comparison, you know you're not gonna be tanking shit. Hazard control options are unfortunately extremely limited. It stops at
, which are both great mons, don't get me wrong, but also just do not fit in bulkier builds.
I really like some of the ability choices, like Regeneratoror Flower Veil
, but unfortunately this is set back by other more questionable choices like
's or
's abilities which turn them into cheese machines when they really don't have to be that. Hawlucha could make use of already existing underutilized abilities like Stamina, which would give it an interesting niche as a defensive Flying/Fighting type that could run Defog, which we are in dire need as of right now. Malamar, on the other hand, while not the best mon of all time by any mean, mandates specific counterplay that is easy to abuse by the insane power level of the tier that would give an existential crisis to even SV OU's paradox mons.
I will now talk about what changes I would make to the tier and why:
Unfortunately, no amount of changes and bans will change the fact that defensive options are very few and far between. We can still try and make it so we aren't limited to the same 3 to 4 mons however.
- Banand
get smashed by Gunk Shot and Low Kick respectively. Not much debate here.
- Remove Sharpness from
- Remove Pure Power from
- Change
- Do something cool with
- Do something cool with(mega) : Dragonite already has extreme set diversity with its physical sets alone, giving it a "if you guess wrong I get a kill and am at +1 spatk" option isn't healthy imoimo
- Keep an eye on
Protean is a lot more likely simply because it's an ability it has before. No need to make yourself look silly talking about Huge Power
Ttar keeps sand stream, Abomasnow keeps snow warning, Scizor keeps technician, Medicham keeps pure power, Blaziken keeps speed boost, Latias & Latios keep levitate. it doesn't really see where the whole being lame and being opposed to keeping the same ability comes from, they already super buffed the stats theyre not likely gonna drop a super powerful ability with that too (tbh its prob just gonna be gen 9 battlebond)
It can already do that with corrosion
The way this has been reiterated several times now in this thread telling me people aren't using the mons they are clamouring for to be buffed.
(It has already been coded into the format that corrosion also allows poison moves to hit steel types)
It's a straight 50% boost to SpA and gives you levitate.
Corrosion having a different effect than in standard play is a problem imo. There really isn't a reason to not give Mega Victreebel a new ability with that effect. We already made a bunch of fanfic abilities for Megas such as for Eelektross and Malamar. All this does is cause confusion for when someone is using Victreebel and bypass Steel's immunity to Sludge Bomb or something. It's not overpowered but it'd feel unfair if you didn't look up that information.
(It has already been coded into the format that corrosion also allows poison moves to hit steel types)
tbf Mega Victreebel's stats are ass and seeing that it only toxic steels (well you'd get that impression when you see corrosion and don't know it's changed in this meta), it'd be a huge turn off for actually using it.
Welp who said we are not play fake metagame, we know more than half of these abilities are wrong, but its for fun metagame, and what makes sense to most. And who said you to use mega greninja over base greninja for protean. Its your choice, not every pokemon is built equal for competitive, thats the reality, even if we make mons here for fun not everything needs to be strongest. And mega greninja speed is a factor to use it over base, or lead base with battle bond get the boost via revenge kill mega evolve, like there is no problem running mega greninja.
"Mega greninja has no counterplay!!!" mfs when I tell them to just knock off the mega stone:
That's because it was Battle Bond. Greninja and Greninja-Bond are actually two different Pokemon, and because Bond is already a different form, only Base Greninja can mega. Just like how if you gave Delphox the Greninjanite and it would be knocked off. If it wasn't because of that then it would have probably been for balancing purposes, Battle Bond boost -> Mega sounds like the most obnoxious thing ever.
I'm not saying it SHOULD get a strong ability, I feel it should just get something DIFFERENT.
I like your creativity with this idea, and I have a feeling that Protean as Mega Gren's Ability would a little too stifling to its STAB attacks. I think this would be a good way to balance it.
This isn’t a bug. You’re using Battle Bond Greninja which can’t Mega Evolve since its technically its own form.
Okay new suggestion for Mega Greninja,
I wouldn't mind ditching the ability completely. It doesn't use it in any other way than just a damage boost unlike Kangaskhan who can PuP or Seismic Toss. The only things it does are:
It breaks multiscale too, but I doubt its worth it to take on a full health dragonite in the first place
I suggest you use skarmory as a stealth rock setter with body press than Diancie (Maybe Mega Diancie for magic bounce shenanigans), but you could have body press on both to deal with other pesky excadrill. also try to predict excadrill rapid spins with Aegislash, I've also had more use with Swords dance over close combat (Shadow sneak and Iron heads go crazy)
