I did the math and I might be off a year or two.
But legend ZA takes place about 10-11 years after Pokemon Red
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SPOILERS! Legends ZA Data Dumps - Adding Info to OP
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I think Sharpness would be cool thematically and just visually but I think Skarmory only has like Aerial Ace lol
they'd have to invent a steel sharpness move, a physical flying-type sharpness move above 60 power, and give skarmory a bunch of random new moves lol
I think its mega might get something like Mirror Armor, which is the hidden ability so far exclusive to the other flying/steel pokemon
it is gold now tho so...good as gold lmao
maybe mega gatr gets intimidate now
Some questions now that some people may have been playing and posting more:
1) Are legendary shiny locked?
2) Do natures still have the same stat boost/penalty?
3) I know IVs and EVs are apparently in the data similar to Legends Arceus, but they function in game In Arceus they were replaced with GVs and IV/EV seemingly had no positive in game though technically every Pokemon could have them.
4) Does Greninja get mega day 1, and Delphox & Chesnaught get them later? I recall they were all their stones were going to be obtained via ranked battles, but some times are saying it starts on the 16th for Greninja.
5) Does Pyroar male have the same look in mega evolution as female? Or do they get different megas?
1) Are legendary shiny locked?
2) Do natures still have the same stat boost/penalty?
3) I know IVs and EVs are apparently in the data similar to Legends Arceus, but they function in game In Arceus they were replaced with GVs and IV/EV seemingly had no positive in game though technically every Pokemon could have them.
4) Does Greninja get mega day 1, and Delphox & Chesnaught get them later? I recall they were all their stones were going to be obtained via ranked battles, but some times are saying it starts on the 16th for Greninja.
5) Does Pyroar male have the same look in mega evolution as female? Or do they get different megas?
I have no idea why I thought this, but maybe Mega Skarmory's Ability is going to be Tough Claws.
No idea at all... :P
0- SpA Supreme Overlord 3 allies fainted Emboar-Mega Scald vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-Therian: 176-208 (46 - 54.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
0- SpA Supreme Overlord 2 allies fainted Emboar-Mega Scald vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Great Tusk: 224-264 (51.6 - 60.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
0- SpA Supreme Overlord 2 allies fainted Emboar-Mega Scald vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Great Tusk: 224-264 (51.6 - 60.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
Maybe Mega Feraligatr gets Fishious Rend in Champions? Wouldn't be boosted by Sheer Force though, but it would explain why there is no Speed Increase.
I hope a dataminer can shed light on is how size variance works in this game, especially when it comes to the Pumpkaboo/Gourgheist forms as I have been waiting literally more than a year to finally see the answer. A Pokémon's size classification now appears on their summary screen (no NPC needed like the one in Mesagoza), so clearly the pumpkin line will have the correct size classification on their summary screen that will let you know its form right away. Does this game use the same Scale value that was introduced in LA and reused in SV? If so, what of the Pumpkaboo/Gourgheist transferred in from Gen 8? Those now have a Scale value in HOME that is a copy-paste of their internal Height value that was generated in SS but left unused, and I believe this value was independent of their form. Will Gen 8 pumpkins moved into this game have their Scale value re-rolled in accordance to their form size?
I'll be laughing/crying if it turns out that one of the reasons we can't transfer backwards from this game via HOME is because of an adjustment that they had to make for this game to account for Pumpkaboo/Gourgheist's size classification and its forms that would complicate things with SS.
I'll be laughing/crying if it turns out that one of the reasons we can't transfer backwards from this game via HOME is because of an adjustment that they had to make for this game to account for Pumpkaboo/Gourgheist's size classification and its forms that would complicate things with SS.
give us mega flygon but pull a feraligatr and it just turns into a huge trapinch
I am so glad that Mega Starmie is leaning into the weird space alien superhero motif, so many mega starmies over the years from fans have just been what if it was prettier or more beautiful starfish. completely missing the inspiration for the design being tokusatsu stuff and old scifi movies.
also earthbound (pretty sure the starmen from earthbound are referencing the same thing starmie/staryu is, Ultraman)
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noooo their Johto retconning days are over (and Kanto obsessed days?)
Staraptor, Golurk, Chimecho are all huge W’s tho.. I rly hope this is accurate.
Mega Starmie's overall such a stupid package but in a very good way(to me anyways), it looks like an idiot, the power up is nonsense in regards to being Starmie, and even its dex entry "Its movements have become more humanlike. Whether it’s simply trying to communicate or wants to supplant humanity is unclear." is really funny to me. idk if i'd say one of my top megas, but i'm very happy with it lmao.
Base form Chesnaught already does comparable damage with Body Press due to the STAB boost. Mega Chesnaught clears easily.
I'm taking this with a massive grain of salt. While Lucario getting second Mega is very believable due to favoritism, I cannot see the same happening to Absol or Garchomp. Plus these unknown guys somehow seemingly have more info than dataminers who have been doing this for over a decade.
the funny starfish alien with its probably unique clone of huge power going to be a mixed set nightmare for singles players I cant wait lol
So the dlc mega’s isn’t 100% accurate because you’re looking at what’s missing in the data vs what’s in the data.
But any mistakes here are typically going to be cause plans changed and not cause the info was never accurate.
I doubt more than 2 of these are wrong and if anything it’s probably more mega’s we still don’t know.
I guess? I don't know. I can't verify what they're saying between a language barrier and a lack of a dump link.
I am perfectly willing to be wrong. My gut feeling is just telling me that multiple Pokémon that aren't marketing frontrunners receiving a second Mega is highly suspect, especially with no form of evidence coming from untrusted randoms.
Plus ngl Tatsugiri receiving a Mega at all is also kind of weird. It's technically a gimmick Pokémon whose gimmick by its very nature kind of precludes Mega Evolving.
If it makes you feel better multiple people where doing the same thing separately (including some people in this thread) and they all where generally heading to the same conclusion.
He was just the first to finish it.
New Megas + Stat Distros
This Mega will entirely come down to what ability it has.
Oh how fun. Another SFMA
I heard that Starmie will get Huge Power, which is pretty interesting. Assuming it gets 100 Atk in Champions, that's pretty powerful considering its the same as Mega Medicham has that same Atk, but Starmie is faster and gets boosted Water STAB in the Rain.
Side note this is easily the worst Mega by design. It's literally just Starmie but with longer legs. Even my headcanon Mega Slaking that's intentionally lazy to fit Slaking's lazy nature has more changes.
So my thoughts were Dragonite would either be broken or worse than its regular form depending on how it handles Extreme Speed. Usually Extreme Speed is push over the edge in OMs like give Aerliate to Dragonite or something. Safe to say that Mega Dragonite is just worse here.
I was unironically hoping Meganium would be a physical attack with Flower Veil. It'd be a physical attack immune to both Intimidate and Burn, which is pretty unique only being shared by a few number of Pokemon (which Flower Veil also ignores all status and stat drops too). Being a special attacker is fine too so long as it gets Flower Veil.
Honestly the worst overall Mega from ZA. Second worst design behind Starmie and second worst competitively behind Malamar imo.
With SF + LO Mega Feraligatr should have focused on its other stats like bulk or speed. Investing too much into Atk is pointless since SFLO already hits hard, so it needed the other stats to improve.
Unfortunately it gets only a bit bulkier and doesn't even get any faster. AND IT EVEN WASTES STATS IN SPA WHY???
Now this is GameFreak cooking here. Skarmory utilizing its bulk in its base form to set up with Sword Dance, then Mega Evolves to dish out damage is really nice. It's like that Mega Diancie philosophy.
Ehh. It could have been much worse by having the same stat spread as Mega Glalie but with its own stats (which honestly wouldn't even be that bad given its speed and how it prefers to go physical with Poltergeist and Triple Axel). Feel like this also really needs to have a good ability to work.
Not bad. Looks like its gearing towards Bulk Up strategies. Very curious what its ability will be since its kind of plain otherwise.
I also feel ehh about this. Excadrill is great already with its ability Sand Rush as a sweeper/cleaner and with Mold Breaker for its utility sets. I have no clue if Mega Excadrill will play into either, or be unfortunate with having Sand Force as an ability.
Now this one is also cooking. Besides the +20 to SpA, Mega Scolipede squeezes out value for a Mega that otherwise has a low BST. With +1 from Speed Boost you'd get with skillful play or Protect, Scolipede effectively has 103-117 Speed, which gives it a much higher BST effectively.
It's frankly too slow to be that effective considering its typing.
Urshifu, another Fighting/Dark type, got away with its x4 Fairy weakness by being really strong and hard to switch into, on top of having a decent speed stat. I doubt that Mega Scrafty will be that oppressive considering it can't even hold a choice band and I also doubt it'll get an autocrit move with an ability that bypasses protect.
Oh boy! Another
Slow
Frail
Mixed
Attacker
Call it right now. Shadow Tag. That is all.
I can't say for sure, but this looks like the best of the Kalos starters competitively speaking.
Remember, Chesnaught learns Body Press and with 172 Def and STAB it's the strongest one in the game excluding Tera Fighting.
And it also learns ID, Leech Seed, and can heal too.
Delphox also has potential to be the best one of the Kalos starters with how similar its stats are to Flutter Mane.
Problem is that Flutter Mane also exists, is faster, gets Protosynthesis, and isn't a Mega either. Crazy how even Mega Delphox was powercrept by Flutter Mane.
They really hated the Water type starters huh? Imagine Ash Greninja, but worse. I checked and Ash Greninja is about 60% stronger than Mega Greninja before abilities. So yeah in exchange for being a bit faster and a bit bulkier, you lose a huge amount of Firepower on a glass cannon Pokemon.
Astonishing how this is by far the most boring Mega here. It literally has 20+ across the board. Which sucks since Pyroar really needed to minmax to compete given its lower stats.
I think we might have a contender for the absolute worst Mega.
It's Slow
It's Frail even with that 120 SpD
and It's a Mixed "attacker"
"attacker" in quotes because 102/98 offenses given Malamar's movepool and the lack of an item means Mega Malamar will hit like a wet paper towel.
It wasted 45 of its stats into SpD (which is arguably the least important stat) when it has only alright HP and has not resistances, so its not even that bulky.
Looks ehh like some of the previous Megas here. It's an improvement over the base form, but nothing remarkable.
I feel like Mega Hawlucha will have similar problems with Mega Dragonite. Being that they are fine in a vacuum but you'd really rather use the base form. Like Unburden is really hard to pass up and Mega Hawlucha doesn't even increase the base speed of Hawlucha either (which btw means Mega Scolipede in VGC can speed tie Mega Hawlucha).
Mega Floette is pretty exciting moreso because it's the first time Floette-E itself will be usable with its signature move. It's going to be pretty devastating.
This thing will be hard carried by Shell Smash.
Ok that's kind of unfair. Why between all Megas, Zygarde of all Pokemon gets a lower boost to its stats than the rest? Well it looks like it'll still be relatively good even with only +70 BST. That SpA is nuclear and you still have that massive 216 HP to back it up.
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Oh yeah Mega Drampa is kind of boring. Not as boring as Mega Pyroar, but in a way more boring because Mega Pyroar is that boring it actually becomes a little interesting.
Very nice. Similar to Barbaracle, it'll be carried mostly by its set up move in No Retreat. No Retreat on a Pokemon with actual decent stats looks interesting and could let Falinks become actually useful.
I can see them wanting to try a new Garchomp mega simply because the old one fell so flat in terms of viability. Absol is a bit more unusual though I suppose there are more directions they could take its mega.
I think the list is just cross referencing the scrubbed index entries and scrubbed pokedex entries
This is one of the subtly best ones actually. It’s not “just longer legs”, the demeanor it shows in game and its Pokédex entry lean into its overall lore and inspiration really nicely. The obvious Earthbound Starman reference, the fact it’s doubling down on Sentai themes, and more… it’s great.
iirc we got confirmation of Greninja learning Nasty Plot in PLZA, and if that carries over to Champions then the slight bulk increase does matter, especially with the boost to Speed. Plus we don't have info on most Mega abilities yet, and for all we know it could be Adaptability for Mega Greninja.
They really hated the Water type starters huh? Imagine Ash Greninja, but worse. I checked and Ash Greninja is about 60% stronger than Mega Greninja before abilities. So yeah in exchange for being a bit faster and a bit bulkier, you lose a huge amount of Firepower on a glass cannon Pokemon.
I cannot take the "worst Mega" comment seriously when Mega Audino exists and the fact Mega Malamar will almost certainly retain Contrary. Is going to be amazing? No, definitely not. But if I decide to bring Mega Mala to an OU match it will probably more consistently accomplish things than Mega Audino.
I think we might have a contender for the absolute worst Mega.
It's Slow
It's Frail even with that 120 SpD
and It's a Mixed "attacker"
"attacker" in quotes because 102/98 offenses given Malamar's movepool and the lack of an item means Mega Malamar will hit like a wet paper towel.
It wasted 45 of its stats into SpD (which is arguably the least important stat) when it has only alright HP and has not resistances, so its not even that bulky.
Watch it get Battle Bond as ability so they finally can retcon Ash Greninja in just literally being Mega Greninja (as it should have always been)