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CynicalGiant said:
they gave starmie some new physical moves and presumably it is going to get even more in Champions

so with chimecho they can just give it a bunch of new moves, nothing really stopping them from doing it.
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Absolutely, but right now I couldn't guess what they'd do with it just like I would have never expected a Pure Power longlegs Mega Starmie. Would a physical Wind Rider Mega Chimecho have a movepool similar to Bronzong? Great Tusk? Malamar? Mega Starmie? Infernape? Etc
 
CynicalGiant said:
they gave starmie some new physical moves and presumably it is going to get even more in Champions

so with chimecho they can just give it a bunch of new moves, nothing really stopping them from doing it.


granted at this point we have no idea if zeraora, heatran, and darkrai are actually going to be in the dlc or in an update before it, given their stones were in the base game's code, and we have the beta build stats for them
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DLC early work makes most sense to me. The stones aren't even "fully" in the game, jsut like the boss battle listings and they had similar scrub work done on all their other stuff

They already have 2 things to release before hand, I would not hold my breath that any of these three are a separate set of updates.
 
Cheryl. said:
Mega Darkrai just makes me want a Mega Cresselia with massively buffed offenses now. Kinda surprised they’re seemingly giving it nothing but I guess it isn’t the first time they’ve ignored members of a pair (i.e. Butterfree before it got GMAX)
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Cresselia got one thing, a nerf out of nowhere.

Honestly if they wanted to nerf a legend in Legends Arceus, Landorus was right there, getting his trio turned into a quartet.
 
Esserise said:
Speaking of Mythicals, the leaked list of returning Pokémon sure does have a lot of them. Darkrai, Keldeo, Meloetta, Genesect, Hoopa, Volcanion, Magearna, Marshadow, Zeraora, and Meltan. It’s obvious what about half of them are doing here since they’re either Kalos’s own or are getting Megas, but the Gen 5 Mythicals, Marshadow, and Meltan? Surely they won’t all just be regularly available as well? But that also seems like a lot of “returning Pokémon” slots to spend on event-limited Pokémon/HOME transfers.
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The list is based on scrubbed Dex entries, so they should be available. If anything, Game Freak has a tendency of putting old Mythicals in game without adding them to the Dex (Meloetta in SV, Keldeo in SwSh), not the other way around.
 
Darth Jigglypuff said:
The list is based on scrubbed Dex entries, so they should be available. If anything, Game Freak has a tendency of putting old Mythicals in game without adding them to the Dex (Meloetta in SV, Keldeo in SwSh), not the other way around.
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That's not necessarily the case. It looks like the update to prepare for the SwSh dlc had deleted entrees for the legendaries and mythicals like genesect, neither of which actually got pokedex entrees. The legendaries were available of course in dynamax adventures, but Keldeo was the only mythical actually obtainable purely in game.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1274355975760351234

(Direct link to pastebin: https://pastebin.com/ZjMmy5Qk)

In SV's 1.2.0 update, on the other hand, it looks like mythicals may have not had deleted dex entries and still made it in:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1630244702661361665

(Direct link to pastebin: https://pastebin.com/RpkRJQ54)

So it could go either way. It could also be the case that they get new dex entrees but still aren't available except through mystery gift events or save data.
 
RocketSurgery said:
That's not necessarily the case. It looks like the update to prepare for the SwSh dlc had deleted entrees for the legendaries and mythicals like genesect, neither of which actually got pokedex entrees. The legendaries were available of course in dynamax adventures, but Keldeo was the only mythical actually obtainable purely in game.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1274355975760351234

(Direct link to pastebin: https://pastebin.com/ZjMmy5Qk)

In SV's 1.2.0 update, on the other hand, it looks like mythicals may have not had deleted dex entries and still made it in:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1630244702661361665

(Direct link to pastebin: https://pastebin.com/RpkRJQ54)

So it could go either way. It could also be the case that they get new dex entrees but still aren't available except through mystery gift events or save data.
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And we ended up never getting Yanma in SWSH lol
 
Eriorguez said:
I just think it is weird Cresselia got randomly bumped from 600 to 580 stat total, in the same game Landorus in his 600 stat total glory gets another 580 member of its group.
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Life Dew was a substantial buff to Cresselia in Doubles play (aka the mode they actually care about balancing) and the nerf was probably just being cautious
 
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