Let's Cut To The Chase [Ubers RMT]

[AirSquared]

Introduction​

Hello Smogon Community. AirSquared here with my first Uber team. I wanted to take a break from the standard tier and try something new. So I began my research by watching countless Uber battles on Shoddy and reading the Ubers Battling guide on Smogon as well as several Uber RMTs. Soon after, this team was born. This team is about 1-2 years old, so it has won plenty of battles as well as lost some. Currently this team is not doing so well now and I kinda want it to attack more on the special side, so I hope to remedy this by seeking your help. The main task of this team is to ensure that Kingdra can abuse the rain and stat-up with Dragon Dance in order to sweep late-game.​

At A Glance​

A More In-Depth Look​

Kyogre @ Lum Berry
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 252 HP/252 SpA/4 Def (30 Spe IV)
Modest nature (+SpA, -Atk)
~Thunder Wave
~Surf
~Ice Beam
~Thunder​

T-Wave Kyogre has and continues to serve this team well as a lead. It sets up an eternal rainstorm that Kingdra can take full advantage of. At the same time, it can cripple opposing leads with Thunder Wave. Kyogre has a speed IV of 30, so it is slower than Lead Groudon, but it can still manage to get the rain up. I maxxed out Kyogre's health and special attack EVs to get as much bulk and power as possible. Kyogre is equipped with a lum berry so that it can absorb any status. Should a lead Darkrai put Kyogre to sleep with Dark Void, the lum berry will heal Kyogre of its status and Kyogre can then OHKO Darkrai with a rain-boosted Surf. Ice Beam is there to take care of Shaymin-S, Groudon, and the countless dragons in the Uber tier such as Rayquaza, Garchomp, Latias, and Latios. Thunder is for opposing Kyogres.​

Kingdra @ Life Orb
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 Atk/80 SpA/ 176 Spe
Lonely nature (+Atk, -Def)
~Dragon Dance
~Outrage
~Waterfall
~Draco Meteor​

Kingdra is the late-game sweeper and the core of this team. Kingdra does not have the stats of the dragons in the Ubers tier such as Palkia or Rayquaza. However, it does have one advantage that makes it stand out: Swift Swim. The 76 Speed EVs give Kingdra a speed stat of 225. In the rain, Kingdra's speed is then doubled to 450. Kingdra outspeeds almost every pokemon in the Ubers tier except such pokemon as RP Groudon, Deoxys-S, Scarf Palkia, and Scarf Garchomp. Once Kingdra manages to get up a Dragon Dance, that speed stat of 450 would increase to a speed stat of 675! I split the remaining EVs between attack and special attack in order to give Kingdra more power as well as to make it a more efficient wallbreaker.​

Dragon Dance gives Kingdra the attack and speed boosts that it need so that it can begin a sweep. Waterfall is Kingdra's main STAB move as well as its primary form of attack. It gets a nice power boost in the rain. Outrage works well with Waterfall, allowing Kingdra near perfect type coverage. Draco Meteor fills the last slot and deals plenty of damage to any switch-in that attempts to stop Kingdra's sweep or change the weather such as Groudon.​

Latias @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 112 HP/204 SpA/192 Spe
Timid nature (+Spe, -Atk)
~Calm Mind
~Dragon Pulse
~Thunder
~Recover​

Wobbuffet is a great team supporter. There is an abundance of Choice Scarfers in the Ubers tier, but Wobbuffet can trap them with Shadow Tag and KO them with either Counter or Mirror Coat. In addition, Wobbuffet can set up a sweep for its teammates. It can encore on a stat-boost move or an attack that deals minimal damage to Kingdra. From there, I can switch to Kingdra and get a free Dragon Dance. Moreover Wobbuffet can trap walls such as Blissey and Lugia, encore a status move or any other move that does not inflict much damage, and weaken their defense with Tickle. Scizor can then switch in and use Pursuit for the OHKO.​

Changed to CM Latias as recommended by shrang

Scizor @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
EVs: 176 HP/100 Atk/232 SpD
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SpA)
~Bullet Punch
~U-turn
~Roost
~Pursuit​

Scizor is just a good revenge killer. This EV spread allows Scizor a balance of both offense and defense. It can manage to switch into the barrage of Dark Pulses from Darkrai as well as Outrage/Dragon Claw from Rayquaza and Dragon Pulses from Latias and Latios. From there, Scizor can either hit the Lati@s twins back with U-Turn or a Technician-powered Pursuit, whittle down Rayquaza's health with Bullet Punch, or OHKO Darkrai with U-Turn. In addition, Scizor can OHKO Lugia and Blissey with Pursuit after Wobbuffet uses Tickle on on them 4-6 times. Roost restores Scizor's health so that it can continue what it needs to do throughout the battle.​

Dialga @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 Atk/252 SpA/252 Spe
Hasty nature (+Spe, -Def)
~Stealth Rock
~Draco Meteor
~Thunder
~Outrage​

Forretress sets up Stealth Rock so that Kingdra and my other sweepers can get the definitive OHKOs or 2HKOs. Another benefit for having Forretress is that he can spin away any entry hazards that have been set up by opposing pokemon. This guarantees that Garchomp can live a +2 Extremespeed from SD Rayquaza. If my options are limited, like say a Rayquaza sets up a Swords Dance or 2 on Forretress, I'll have Forretress use Explosion to KO or inflict massive damage on that sweeper.​

Changed to Mix Dialga as recommended by shrang

Garchomp @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Sand Veil
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Jolly nature (+Spe, -SpA)
~Outrage
~Dragon Claw
~Earthquake
~Stone Edge​

Garchomp is an awesome revenge killer and usually gets the job done. He can outrun almost every Dragon-type Pokemon in the Ubers tier. When I was building this team, I found at that I had a huge SD Rayquaza weakness. I tried Scarf Palkia, but it was usually OHKOed by a +2 ExtremeSpeed. Then I tried ScarfChomp and it worked wonders for the team. Garchomp usually survives a +2 ExtremeSpeed from Rayquaza and OHKOs Outrage and Dragon Claw, the latter assuming Stealth Rock is in play. Furthermore, Garchomp has an immunity to Electric-type moves, so he can easily switch into any Thunder attack directed at Kyogre. STAB Earthquake provides decent coverage and helps Garchomp to get rid of Dialga and other Steel-types. Stone Edge OHKOs Ho-Oh and 2HKOs Lugia when Stealth Rock is in play.​

Any good and detailed advice is appreciated. The threat list will be finished soon. Thank you for taking the time to read this RMT.​

 

[shrang]

Hi, not a bad first attempt. I can see a few things causing this team problems. One is Groudon, since he can just come in and out and disrupt your rain and stop you sweeping. Two is SD Rayquaza, should he get an SD in (Not hard, they just use Wobb to Encore you, or comes in on Scarfed EQ), it will pretty much sweep your team if they use Deoxys-S to set up a layer of SR and Spikes as well. Lastly, is Stall. Once Toxic Spikes goes down, Kingdra is going to have a very difficult time sweeping, especially if you consider that a lot of Stall teams carry Groudon as well. I think a very easy way to deal with all three of these threats would be to do replace Forretress or Scizor (I don't mind which, you can test both out) with Mixed Dialga:

Dialga @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 Atk/252 SpA/252 Spe
Nature: Hasty
-Draco Meteor
-Outrage
-Thunder/Brick Break
-Bulk Up/Flamethrower/Stealth Rock (If you replaced Forretress)

If you replaced Scizor, then Bulk Up is usually the better way to go. You can use Bulk Up, which will lure in Groudon so you can nail it with Draco Meteor. Dialga also deals with Adamant SD Ray reasonably well too (Jolly will lack power, meaning Garchomp will have an easier time against it), since it outspeeds and OHKOs with Draco Meteor or Outrage.

I also smell a Kyogre weakness. You have no safe switch-in to SpecsOgre. Although I really don't want to replace Wobb because Kingdra will find it harder to switch-in and set up, consider replacing him with Latias or Palkia (You could test out both, I guess), since they can pretty much come into any variant of Kyogre (Watch out for Thunder Wave) and force them out:

Latias @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 112 HP/204 SpA/192 Spe
Nature: Timid
-Calm Mind
-Dragon Pulse
-Thunder
-Recover

or

Palkia @ Lustrous Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 Atk/252 SpA/252 Spe
Nature: Hasty
-Surf
-Spacial Rend
-Thunder
-Outrage

Finally, you haven't got a good EV spread for Kingdra. It needs to run at least 500 Speed (In rain) to outspeed ScarfChomp before a boost. So, I'd suggest changing the spread to 252 Atk/80 SpA/176 Spe with the same nature.

Hope I helped, Good luck.

 

[calze6]

To stop that groudon and rayquaza weakness, I recommend that you put in something like latios to OHKO groudon with grass knot. You don't have a proper special sweeper which means that latios will help.

 

[Venser]

Wobbuffet @ Leftovers
Ability: Shadow Tag
EVs: 28 HP/228 Def/252 SpD
Calm nature (+SpD, -Atk)
~Counter
~Mirror Coat
~Encore
~Tickle​

IIRC the EV spread that allows for the most resilience (as well as the most possible damage with mirror coat) is 252 HP, 126 Def, 126 SpDef. Maybe you could try this out.

 

[eValentino]

As Shrang mentioned, Toxic Spikes can really cripple your Kingdra. I also run a Kingdra to abuse my Kyogre's rain; I find that using a Lum Berry instead of a Life Orb is actually tremendously beneficial. Should Toxic Spikes go down, Kingdra can switch in without fear of poison. If Toxic Spikes are absent, the Lum Berry allows Kingdra to run multiple Outrages without worrying about confusion.

I'd also recommend moving ALL but 4 of Kingdra's EVs out of SpA and dumping them into Speed. If something is worth doing, it's worth overdoing, and Swift Swim is something you should take full advantage of. Switching the EV like that should allow you to outrun seriously anything, even a Scarf Mewtwo (uncommon, but I've seen them, and they block this set pretty bad) or a Scarf Shaymin-S (which could otherwise ruin your day with flinches). You picked the nature well though - Lonely is definitely the best choice as it boosts Outrage and Waterfall without hindering Draco.

Also, as Shrang mentioned, you have a Groudon (read: Sunshine) weakness. A Mix Dialga is a very good counter, but can get raped if Groudon uses a STAB Earthquake. I'd recommend (believe it or not) a Darkrai running 252 Spe/252 SpA/4 HP with a Lum Berry and a Timid nature with Nasty Plot, Dark Void, Dark Pulse, and Focus Blast. If you can find an opportunity to switch him in, Dark Void can give you the opportunity to shut down the enemy Groudon and make it totally irrelevant.

 

[AirSquared]

Thanks for the replies, guys!

@shrang: I made the changes. Kingdra is running your recommended EV spread. I'm trying out Latias, whom has replaced Wobbuffet. I am also using MixDialga who has replaced Forretress.

@eValentino: I will make another copy of this team with the changes Shrang offered and plan to test out Darkrai.