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List with the most used Pokemon in the new metagame, based in the RTM Subforums

I assume it has something to do with avalibility, I haven't seen one trade list in the wifi forum with a magic guard clefable.
 
I updated the uber thing a little bit, since there was a lot of teams for that Gamestop thing, I decided it would probably be a good idea.

Some things I wanted to point out:

- Wobbuffet usage is steadily increasing
- More people are putting Deoxys-F into their teams now
- Blissey usage has actually gone down, it was only on 2 teams I included on this update, very few compared to last time, where it was on pretty much every RMT there
- Kyogre usage is skyrocketing, it was on EVERY team I updated -.-
- Giratina is getting used a lot more
- The non-ubers besides Blissey and Metagross aren't getting very much use

I'll update the uber list gradually, how much I update will depend on my degree of boredom.

Ehh.
 
Since some of you seem to be getting confused about the rules on page 6...

Rules said:
DP's Tier System
We don't have a metagame yet, guys, so how can we tell which Pokémon belong where? More importantly, what good does it do us to speculate to such ends regardless?
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Cut out the tier whining.
 
Uhh....I wouldn't argue with the mods, especially when they've stomped out more than a hundred fires about tier discussion.
 
Ok, I did the first update on the ubers thing in like 2 weeks. Not much has changed besides there being lots more Metagross usage and a skyrocket in Palkias.

Just so you know, I can try and update the numbers from the first post if you guys want as I do have a lot of time on my hands for the next few days.
 
I would really appreciate a refresher, but I know how much effort that is and if you don't really want to do it that'd be totally understandable.
 
Well, here are the numbers as of now:

This is how I'll list the numbers so it's easier to compare updates -

(Pokemon) (Number Received) (increase in number since last update)%of teams have this rounded down

Blissey 853 (+174) 31%
Gyarados 563 (+109) 21%
Garchomp 495 (+118) 18%
Gengar 491 (+123)
Electivire 471 (+96) 17%
Skarmory 458 (+89)
Swampert 453 (+93) 16%
Dusknoir 433 (+73)
Salamence 433 (+74)
Starmie 404 (+76) 15%
Weavile 369 (+73) 13%
Bronzong 367 (+73)
Cresselia 366 (+77)
Metagross 357 (+63)
Gliscor 352 (+56)
Tyranitar 340 (+82) 12%
Infernape 321 (+69)
Heracross 318 (+78) 11%
Togekiss 286 (+50) 10%
Rhyperior 267 (+28)
Lucario 263 (+53) 9%
Porygon-Z 257 (+41)
Donphan 250 (+55)
Heatran 209 (+57) 7%
Weezing 206 (+54)
Vaporeon 203 (+31)
Tangrowth 200 (+37)
Jirachi 177 (+41) 6%
Gallade 176 (+24)
Dragonite 171 (+21)
Forretress 168 (+59)
Milotic 159 (+21) 5%
Snorlax 153 (+38)
Breloom 152 (+38)
Magnezone 149 (+26)
Umbreon 142 (+30)
Ninjask 133 (+26) 4%
Alakazam 132 (+33)
Slowbro 132 (+43)
Azelf 129 (+24)
Hippowdon 128 (+41)
Scizor 119 (+44)
Jolteon 117 (+41)
Kingdra 99 (+21) 3%
Ludicolo 99 (+21)
Empoleon 94 (+24)
Yanmega 93 (+18)
Aerodactyl 91 (+18)
Spiritomb 86 (+33)
Medicham 80 (+26) 2%
Sceptile 74 (+20)
Flygon 71 (+18)
Machamp 71 (+21)
Cradily 70 (+34)
Mismagius 68 (+18)
Roserade 68 (+24)
Suicune 66 (+19)
Dugtrio 65 (+17)
Claydol 64 (+15)
Charizard 62 (+9)
Arcanine 61 (+6)
Mamoswine 61 (+5)
Ambipom 56 (+4)
Froslass 56 (+22)
Gardevoir 56 (+8)
Zapdos 53 (+19) 1%
Houndoom 52 (+13)
Toxicroak 51 (+13)
Staraptor 50 (+4)
Crobat 47 (+17)
Marowak 45 (+12)
Drapion 43 (+10)
Rampardos 43 (+10)
Steelix 42 (+5)
Blaziken 40 (+9)
Raikou 38 (+4)
Magmortar 37 (+10)
Miltank 37 (+14)
Ninetales 37 (+7)
Regice 37 (+13)
Clefable 35 (+10)
Leafeon 35 (+8)
Slaking 34 (+11)
Smeargle 33 (+12)
Celebi 32 (+7)
Kabutops 32 (+6)
Hariyama 31 (+8)
Exeggutor 30 (+11)
Lickilicky 30 (+6)
Typhlosion 30 (+9)
Venusaur 30 (+8)
Abomasnow 29 (+15)
Tentacruel 29 (+16)
Ursaring 29 (+2)
Blastoise 28 (+4)
Lanturn 28 (+7)
Torterra 28 (+4)
Absol 25 (+4) <1%
Swellow 25 (+8)
Uxie 25 (+8)
Espeon 24 (+8)
Feraligatr 23 (+3)
Glaceon 23 (+9)
Lapras 23 (+4)
Porygon2 23 (+3)
Shuckle 22 (+8)
Slowking 22 (+3)
Tauros 21 (+5)
Hitmontop 21 (+5)
Cloyster 20 (+7)
Drifblim 20 (+5)
Azumarill 19 (+11)
Nidoking 19 (+5)
Regirock 19 (+4)
Armaldo 17 (+3)
Floatzel 17 (+7)
Mesprit 17 (+1)
Aggron 16 (+5)
Ampharos 15 (+1)
Registeel 15 (+3)
Torkoal 14 (+4)
Cacturne 13 (+7)
Gastrodon 13 (+3)
Hitmonchan 13 (+4)
Jumpluff 13 (+7)
Mantine 13 (+2)
Rotom 13 (+3)
Hypno 12 (+3)
Lopunny 12 (+1)
Pinsir 12 (+3)
Walrein 12 (+11)
Honchkrow 11 (+4)
Meganium 11 (+4)
Octillery 11
Probopass 11 (+1)
Pikachu 11 (+3)
Poliwrath 11 (+5)
Raichu 11 (+1)
Relicanth 11 (+5)
Scyther 11 (+6)
Hitmonlee 10 (+3)
Bastiodon 9 (+4)
Butterfree 9 (+1)
Grumpig 9 (+3)
Mr.Mime 9 (+2)
Zangoose 9 (+2)
Camerupt 8 (+4)
Moltres 8 (+3)
Omastar 8 (+2)
Kangaskhan 7 (+3)
Jynx 6 (+1)
Kingler 6 (+3)
Muk 6 (+1)
Persian 6 (+2)
Regigigas 6 (+1)
Sandslash 6 (+2)
Shedinja 6
Whiscash 6 (+2)
Dunsparce 5 (+2)
Manectric 5 (+2)
Sharpedo 5 (+2)
Shiftry 5 (+1)
Sudowoodo 5
Articuno 4 (+1)
Dewgong 4 (+1)
Electrode 4
Golduck 4 (+2)
Rapidash 4 (+1)
Shaymin 4 (+1)
Solrock 4 (+2)
Altaria 3
Beedrill 3
Bibarel 3 (+1)
Flareon 3 (+2)
Furret 3 (+1)
Gorebyss 3 (+3)
Lunatone 3 (+1)
Parasect 3
Plusle 3 (+2)
Primeape 3
Vespiquen 3 (+1)
Xatu 3 (+1)
Arbok 2
Bellosom 2 (+1)
Cherrim 2 (+1)
Clamperl 2 (+2)
Crawdaunt 2 (+1)
Entei 2
Golem 2
Luxray 2
Mawile 2 (+2)
Nidoqueen 2 (+1)
Politoed 2 (+1)
Quagsire 2
Qwilfish 2 (+1)
Seaking 2 (+1)
Tropius 2
Vileplume 2
Wailord 2 (+1)
Wigglytuff 2
Banette 1 (+1)
Carnivine 1 (+1)
Castform 1
Chatot 1
Chimecho 1 (+1)
Ditto 1
Dodrio 1 (+1)
Exploud 1
Fearow 1 (+1)
Girafarig 1 (+1)
Glalie 1
Granbull 1
Huntail 1
Kecleon 1
Ledian 1 (+1)
Linoone 1 (+1)
Minun 1 (+1)
Noctowl 1
Pachirisu 1
Pelipper 1
Phione 1 (+1)
Pidgeot 1
Purugly 1
Raticate 1
Sableye 1
Seviper 1
Spinda 1
Venomoth 1 (+1)
Victreebel 1


There are 2667 RMTs so far.


All pokemon that do not have a number in brackets next to their name had a growth of "0" this update.

If a pokemon shows a percentage, it is implied that all the pokemon below it have that percentage as well until it shows a different number.
 
The growth of certain pokes is probably due to warstorys, at least in Kabutops case. I distinctly remember a warstory where a Kabutops proceeds to sweep once rain has been set up.
 
When I was making this, I found myself finding a huge rise in Charizards, Ambipoms and Roserades, as well as Rampardos...what's up with that?

Could it be that people are now not afraid to try new things out?

Also, is Tyranitar a cripple now? Its overall growth was only 106 while Gengar whi was tied with him last time got a growth of a whopping 185! Even Porygon-Z beat him...what exactly happened to Tyranitar??
 
Bologo said:
When I was making this, I found myself finding a huge rise in Charizards, Ambipoms and Roserades, as well as Rampardos...what's up with that?

Could it be that people are now not afraid to try new things out?

Also, is Tyranitar a cripple now? Its overall growth was only 106 while Gengar whi was tied with him last time got a growth of a whopping 185! Even Porygon-Z beat him...what exactly happened to Tyranitar??
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Shoddy = easy to do random things. I'm going to be trying a 'scarfed Explosion team to see if it can work. I wouldn't bother if I had to train them. I guess it's the same for others too.
 
Yeha, I've run into almost no Tyranitars. I think people are trying wierd stuff over shoddy, and anyway a good sandstream team takes a bit more effort than a gimmick/thrown together team.
 
TheMantyke said:
Hell yeah! 10 mantines!
Thanks for the update, Why the hell is Beedrill of all things being used more than shaymin?
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People are probably avoiding Shaymin because there are so few E4 glitch ones available for trade and no one knows if/when they'll be released. Also, people are dumb.
 
I did see someone trading a very good IV Timid Shaymin on the Wi-Fi subforum. If that can be cloned, Shaymin usage will definitely go up. I'm one of the 2 Shaymin users and I can't say that anyone's accused him of being uber for me...most of the responses I get for it are "What the hell is that?!" or something like that. Tee hee, Shaymin will prevail!
 
Bologo said:
I did see someone trading a very good IV Timid Shaymin on the Wi-Fi subforum. If that can be cloned, Shaymin usage will definitely go up. I'm one of the 2 Shaymin users and I can't say that anyone's accused him of being uber for me...most of the responses I get for it are "What the hell is that?!" or something like that. Tee hee, Shaymin will prevail!
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Well, that's one. They're not very common anyways.

But I had several people ask if it was uber on Shoddy when I used it. Then again, none of those people were from Smogon. I remember one guy forfeited the battle crying "fucking ubers" after my Shaymin 2HKOed his Electivire with Seed Flare.
 
Bologo said:
I did see someone trading a very good IV Timid Shaymin on the Wi-Fi subforum. If that can be cloned, Shaymin usage will definitely go up. I'm one of the 2 Shaymin users and I can't say that anyone's accused him of being uber for me...most of the responses I get for it are "What the hell is that?!" or something like that. Tee hee, Shaymin will prevail!
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It's Ph03n!x's and I use shaymin also
 
ZinkOxide said:
Yeha, I've run into almost no Tyranitars. I think people are trying wierd stuff over shoddy, and anyway a good sandstream team takes a bit more effort than a gimmick/thrown together team.
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actually, I would think that the gimmick/thrown together team would take more effort to really make it work than a Sandstream team. 2/3rds of the Pokemon one would use on a good Sandstream team are mandatory: Tyranitar/Hippowdon, Gliscor, Garchomp, and Blissey. Not a whole lot of effort I had to put into that, was it? The other two are usually relatively simple to piece together as well, usually consisting of two of the following: Swampert, Heatran, Skarmory, Magnezone, Rhyperior, Jirachi, or a Rapid Spin blocker (usually Dusknoir, but Gengar works as well). I'm probably missing some more obscure Pokemon on that list like Metagross, Forretress, and the occasional Roserade, but those others are Pokemon that come right to the top of my head.

See? That wasn't so hard, was it? And I'm not saying that just because you don't need to put alot of work into it that it's not good. On the contrary, Sandstorm teams work wonderfully this generation and are extremely powerful and tough to face if your team isn't geared specifically to counter them. But a good sandstorm team isn't very hard to think up and requires very little effort to construct, which I think, in my opinion, is why they're seeing alot of use (it's both easy to make and very powerful. It'll require a bit more effort though if you want to add something like a Probopass in the mix).

Gimmick teams I think require much more effort (if you really want it to work in competitive play. If you're just screwing around, then it won't require a ton of effort at all), if only because more times than not, the first four members of your team aren't already pre-planned and packaged for your use. Since the gimmick Pokemon usually aren't standards, you have to take more care to find a set of Pokemon that can work really well together and cover each other while at the same time being able to get in and do what they have to do without getting stopped or creamed in the process (which is also more likely to occur, cause again, gimmick Pokemon usually aren't Pokemon like Garchomp or Salamence in that they can take out all but a few Pokemon in two shots or less. An Explosion team, for example, have to worry about taking out opposing ghost Pokemon, and stuff like Lickilicky, while a great exploder, will have trouble trying to take on something like Dusknoir, who can stop your entire team's immediate strategy in its tracks. And I can't think of an immediate choice of Pokemon one would put on an Explosion team - IE, something that explodes - that can handle Dusknoir).

Bologo said:
I did see someone trading a very good IV Timid Shaymin on the Wi-Fi subforum. If that can be cloned, Shaymin usage will definitely go up. I'm one of the 2 Shaymin users and I can't say that anyone's accused him of being uber for me...most of the responses I get for it are "What the hell is that?!" or something like that. Tee hee, Shaymin will prevail!
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Fourth-ing (I think) the use of Shaymin on my team.
 
Look like I'll have to kick at least 96 people. It's fucking ridiculous that Umbreon, one of the most incapable Pokemon in the game, gets more usage than Azelf. Also, I feel strangely responsible in some way for Blissey usage more than doubling...
 
Bologo said:
I did see someone trading a very good IV Timid Shaymin on the Wi-Fi subforum. If that can be cloned, Shaymin usage will definitely go up. I'm one of the 2 Shaymin users and I can't say that anyone's accused him of being uber for me...most of the responses I get for it are "What the hell is that?!" or something like that. Tee hee, Shaymin will prevail!
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Well, if that's the case, I'll make a giveaway soon. Mantyke, you helpin'? Ph03n!x's Shaymin? Ph03n!x-Br's Shaymin? Pnx's Shaymin? Bad @ naming.

But I won't do it that soon, I'm having very busy weeks. Also, my birthday / Metroid Prime 3 is / are coming :naughty:


Moving on to Shaymin, man. You gotta use Seed Flare in Donphan, it's simply awesome. It also lols at Ice Shard and it's Substitute doesn't fall to one Earthquake. It's actually bulkier than I thought.
 
Great Sage said:
Also, I feel strangely responsible in some way for Blissey usage more than doubling...
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Actually, considering that this sample consists of 11069 (give or take a few, it's a lot of rows to add) pokemon compared to the previous sample of only 4932, Blissey usage has decreased slightly. It's gone from 5.9% of all pokemon (roughly 35.4 % of all teams) to 5.37 % (roughly 32.25% of all teams). The numbers seem misleading because of the larger gap between Blissey and its next most common competitor. :p
 
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