Project Lure That Threat SM RU Edition - Week 24: Moltres (Voting)

Status
Not open for further replies.
i know nominations are over and such, but thread would feel incomplete w/o this beautiful creation

496.gif

Servine @ Dragonium Z
Ability: Contrary
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Leaf Storm
- Giga Drain
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Twister

damage calc doesn't want us to be that flabbergasted and bewildered but Z-Twister servine but all you need to know it does a lot at like +4, plus even if you don't win
you're beating a dragalge with a servine, so is the real winner here?
 
Stan Soojung said:
i know nominations are over and such, but thread would feel incomplete w/o this beautiful creation

496.gif

Servine @ Dragonium Z
Ability: Contrary
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Leaf Storm
- Giga Drain
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Twister

damage calc doesn't want us to be that flabbergasted and bewildered but Z-Twister servine but all you need to know it does a lot at like +4, plus even if you don't win
you're beating a dragalge with a servine, so is the real winner here?
Click to expand...
Bless your heart

voting for that servine btw
 
Stan Soojung said:
i know nominations are over and such, but thread would feel incomplete w/o this beautiful creation

496.gif

Servine @ Dragonium Z
Ability: Contrary
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Leaf Storm
- Giga Drain
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Twister

damage calc doesn't want us to be that flabbergasted and bewildered but Z-Twister servine but all you need to know it does a lot at like +4, plus even if you don't win
you're beating a dragalge with a servine, so is the real winner here?
Click to expand...

+2 252 SpA Servine Devastating Drake (100 BP) vs. 252 HP / 204+ SpD Dragalge: 172-204 (51.4 - 61%)

Damage.
 
Voting period is up. Congrats to the winners of this week: Earthquake Venusaur by King Wynaut and Assault Vest Hitmontop by Xiri! The other winner of this week is Dragon Pulse Salazzle by Randomnick. New threat coming soon™.

Earthquake Venusaur by King Wynaut - 3
Assault Vest Hitmontop by Xiri - 3
Dragon Pulse Salazzle by Randomnick - 2
Earthquake Chesnaught by Cheryl -2
SERVINE - 1
Earthquake Registeel by Miyami~~ - 0
Darkinium Z Houndoom by askov - 0
HP Ground Roserade by BelmontGabriel - 0
 
Week 10: Offensive Nidoqueen
nidoqueen.gif

Nidoqueen @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Stealth Rock / Toxic Spikes
- Earth Power
- Ice Beam
- Sludge Wave / Flamethrower / Thunderbolt
​
Welcome back, Nidoqueen! What better way to celebrate her re-arrival in RU? Not much probably needs to be said about this Pokemon; it should be familiar to most. The best offensive rock setter in the tier, Nidoqueen has an incredibly diverse offensive movepool. Sheer Force further boosts its attacks and negates Life Orb damage. Earth Power is the most common STAB option, letting it beat Steel-types such as Registeel. Ice Beam is to prevent Defog from the tier's most common Defogger, Gligar. Sludge Wave lets it beat Fairy- and Grass-types, Flamethrower lets it OHKO Steel/Bug-types, and, while not as common with Mantine gone, Thunderbolt allows Nidoqueen to threaten Moltres.
 
diancie.gif

Diancie @ Groundium Z
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 120 SpA / 136 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Stealth Rock
- Heal Bell
- Moonblast
- Earth Power

Nidoqueen resists diancie's dual stab, can threaten if out with its own suppereffective stab, and can trade rocks with diance making it an ideal switch in on paper. Diancie can take advantage of this with groundium earth power which not only will get rid of nidoqueen on the switch but help you keep rocks up for the entire game which makes it an extremely valuable lure. 120 spatk evs guarantee the ohko, however, a lot less are needed if you want to oh ko after Hail or rocks chip or are simply willing to risk the roll. It also does a nice chunk to mons like registeel and mega camerupt which can be helpful.

Relevant Calcs

120 SpA Diancie Tectonic Rage (175 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Nidoqueen: 322-380 (100.3 - 118.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

120 SpA Diancie Tectonic Rage (175 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Registeel: 154-182 (42.3 - 50%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

120 SpA Diancie Tectonic Rage (175 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Camerupt-Mega: 272-320 (79 - 93%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 
Last edited:
florges-white.gif

Florges @ Leftovers
Ability: Flower Veil
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Wish / Synthesis
- Protect / Calm Mind
- Psychic

With the standard Florges set lacking Psychic, Nidoqueen obviously is a great switch-in but gets bop'd for 50.4 - 59.8% on the switch instead. I also lures in stuff like Roserade and Salazzle that think they can setup on Moonblast.

0 SpA Florges Psychic vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Nidoqueen: 162-192 (50.4 - 59.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 
Gonna post something a little different, with a practical approach

milotic.png

Milotic @ Leftovers
Ability: Competitive
EVs: 40 HP / 252 SpA / 216 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Ice Beam
- Toxic
- Recover
- Hydro Pump

Im well aware Milotic should force Nidoqueen out but hear my reasoning first. Milotic generally are fully physically defensive cause they can check threats like Feraligatr, Flygon and Sharpedo better. Nidoqueen could still opt to run thunderbolt (plus thunderbolt is slashed on this) so Thunderbolt will be doing 52% min, so it is not enough to recover too well, and finally Nidoqueen could 1v1 it since Scald doesnt do enough.

0 SpA Milotic Scald vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Nidoqueen: 198-234 (61.6 - 72.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Nidoqueen Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Milotic: 208-247 (52.7 - 62.6%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

So yeah, basically a kill first before it kills you scenario. The EVs outspeed modest nidoqueen and Hydro Pump blast it away.

252+ SpA Milotic Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Nidoqueen: 374-444 (116.5 - 138.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

And finally, the rolls from the thunderbolt damage are likely to happen on this offensive milotic set, so you can still bluff that you arent offensive based on damage.

252+ SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Nidoqueen Thunderbolt vs. 40 HP / 0 SpD Milotic: 208-247 (60.9 - 72.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

If lucky enough.

Meh, luring this monster is impossible. I would have posted hp ground comfey but sludge wave still hits too hard.
 
135.gif

Jolteon @ Psychium Z
Ability: Volt Absorb
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Volt Switch
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Synchronoise

252 SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Nidoqueen: 418-494 (130.2 - 153.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Lured. You can bluff a choice set by spamming Volt Switch, then when the Queen comes in, just click Z-Synchronoise and watch it drop. Also OHKOes Kommo-o, Roserade, Venusaur, Chesnaught, and Salazzle and does a lot to defensive Dragalge (offensive sets can be OHKOed). The tech no one would expect.
 
rotom-mow.gif
Bag_Psychium_Z_Sprite.png

Rotom-Mow @ Psychium Z
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Leaf Storm
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch
- Dream Eater

as well as being a nice lure to queen, i genuinely feel as if this is a usable set, as it lures in basically all poisons as well as nuking other grass-types like chesnaught, rade and venu harder than hp flying, as well as other grass and electric resistances such as kommo-o, and especially since mowtoms last slot is mostly likely not gonna be used a whole ton, z-dream eater i feel is a really cool set

252 SpA Rotom-Mow Shattered Psyche (180 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Nidoqueen: 384-454 (119.6 - 141.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
Last edited:
Psychium Jolteon Leaf storm from Rotom-C already does a lot to offensive Nidoqueen anyways so Psychium Z seems like a waste. It honestly seems more worth using to lure Chesnaught but even that is a bit of a stretch.
 
Based Honker said:
Psychium Jolteon Leaf storm from Rotom-C already does a lot to offensive Nidoqueen anyways so Psychium Z seems like a waste. It honestly seems more worth using to lure Chesnaught but even that is a bit of a stretch.
Click to expand...
To be honest it's probably more of a Dragalge lure since its a great check to Rotom-C, Grassium Z would be enough to KO Offensive Queen but its probably aiming to lure not only Queen, but Dragalge as well.
 
Stan Soojung said:
rotom-mow.gif
Bag_Psychium_Z_Sprite.png

Rotom-Mow @ Psychium Z
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Leaf Storm
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch
- Dream Eater

as well as being a nice lure to queen, i genuinely feel as if this is a usable set, as it lures in basically all poisons as well as nuking other grass-types like chesnaught harder than hp flying, and especially since mowtoms last slot is mostly likely not gonna be used a whole ton, z-dream eater i feel is a really cool set

252 SpA Rotom-Mow Shattered Psyche (180 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Nidoqueen: 384-454 (119.6 - 141.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Click to expand...

252 SpA Rotom-Mow Bloom Doom (195 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Nidoqueen: 313-369 (97.5 - 114.9%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

???
 
spookysocialist said:
252 SpA Rotom-Mow Bloom Doom (195 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Nidoqueen: 313-369 (97.5 - 114.9%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

???
Click to expand...
Stan Soojung said:
rotom-mow.gif
Bag_Psychium_Z_Sprite.png

Rotom-Mow @ Psychium Z
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Leaf Storm
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch
- Dream Eater

as well as being a nice lure to queen, i genuinely feel as if this is a usable set, as it lures in basically all poisons as well as nuking other grass-types like chesnaught, rade and venu harder than hp flying, as well as other grass and electric resistances such as kommmo-o, and especially since mowtoms last slot is mostly likely not gonna be used a whole ton, z-dream eater i feel is a really cool set

252 SpA Rotom-Mow Shattered Psyche (180 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Nidoqueen: 384-454 (119.6 - 141.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Click to expand...
:)

thots everywhere, also i get no style points for grass z
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top