Project Lure that Threat V2

[jordanthejq12]

Banded Hoopa-Unbound

(Just be careful, because Altaria can switch into a Banded Hyperspace Fury.)

 

[nameless90]

Nasty Plot + Sludge Bomb Mega Houndoom

 

[Alice Kazumi]

Iron Tail Mega Charizard X

 

[Louna]

Nasty Plot + Sludge Wave Thundurus

 

[mewfiveeightfive]

Nasty Plot + Sludgewave Thundurus

 

[Real FV13]

Nasty Plot + Sludge Bomb Mega Houndoom

 

[Aragorn the King]

I'm torn between Charx and thundy... but I think I have to go with Nasty Plot + Sludge Wave Thundurus (maybe just for the accuracy).

 

[Day Healer]

NP + sludge wave megadoom is standard those days, so i doubt is a lure anyway; Iron Tail megachar-x lose on coverage like a lot; Mega altaria have no business coming into Togekiss, seeing Air Slash is already a 3HKO and it can still flinch it; so i definitively must to go with:

Nasty Plot + Sludge wave Thundurus

 

[-Ixtamacunxi-]

Nasty Plot + Sludge Wave Thundurus

 

[Me and ur mom]

Iron tail M-Gyra

 

[sparktrain]

Nasty Plot + Sludge Wave Thundurus

 

[TPP]

Voting is over and our winner through voting is Nasty Plot + Sludge Wave Thundurus by Luckstard. Other winners include Nasty Plot + Sludge Bomb Mega Houndoom and Iron Tail Mega Gyarados.

Honorable mentions include Gunk Shot Infernape, Iron Tail Mega Charizard X, and Glare + HP Ice Serperior

Votes

Nasty Plot + Sludge Wave Thundurus: 7
Nasty Plot + Sludge Bomb Mega Houndoom: 2
Gunk Shot Infernape: 1
Nasty Plot + Dazzling Gleam Togekiss: 1
Iron Tail Mega Gyarados: 1
Iron Tail Mega Charizard X: 1
Gunk Shot Choice Band Hoopa-Unbound: 1

 

[TPP]

Week 9: Standard Defog Latios

Latios @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Roost
- Defog

Latios is a great OU mon with it's main role being a hazard remover. It's a good one at that, due to the fact it's not weak to Stealth Rock, and it's also got good recovery in the form of Roost. Latios is also able to switching to multiple threats including Keldeo, Mega Charizard Y, and offensively, it's able to defeat annoying mons like Mega Venusaur and Rotom-W with ease.​

 

[Random Passerby]

Manectric @ Manectite
Ability: Lightningrod
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch
- Hidden Power Ice
- Toxic

Toxic is a way for Mega Manectric to punish its common switch-ins such as Hippowdon, Mega Altaria, Mega Charizard-X and Lati@s. Hidden Power Ice is used to help to whittle down Latios when it is at low health. Other moves are standard.

 

[jordanthejq12]

Slowbro @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 232 Def / 24 SpD
Bold Nature
- Calm Mind
- Scald
- Ice Beam
- Slack Off

A Water-type with Ice Beam. What a surprise. Slowbro running a coverage move is fairly uncommon, though, and then it's typically Fire Blast.

This spread guarantees survival of a Draco at +0, allowing you to Slack Off a couple of times and eventually 1v1 it. A more aggressive approach is to CM on the switch, at which point you 2HKO while Latios cannot two-shot in return:
252 SpA Life Orb Latios Draco Meteor vs. +1 252 HP / 24 SpD Slowbro: 216-255 (54.8 - 64.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 0 SpA Slowbro Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Latios: 180-212 (59.8 - 70.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

 

[Bendiving]

Idk if this counts as a lure but...

Zoroark @ Life Orb
Ability: Illusion
EVs: 196 Atk / 96 SpA / 216 Spe
Naive Nature
- Sucker Punch
- Knock Off
- Low Kick
- Flamethrower

Zoroark can disguise itself as a standard Latios switch-in such as Keldeo and KO on the switch with knock off.

196 Atk Life Orb Zoroark Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Latios: 408-484 (136.4 - 161.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

In a one-on-one situation, zoroark can either tank a psyshock (disguised as a fighting type for example), or simply outspeed and KO with sucker punch.

 

[sergey]

Hippowdon @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 144 Def / 112 SpD
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Slack Off
- Crunch

Latios usually comes in on hippowdon for free to defog/dent it a lot, however with crunch hippo always 2hkoes lati and forces it to either attack or sack itself to defog

 

[GnralLao]

Chesnaught @ Salac Berry
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 12 HP / 244 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Belly Drum
- Substitute
- Drain Punch
- Seed Bomb / Rock Slide

Normally, Chesnaught tends the role of a physical tank that sets up Spikes, which usually baits Latios in so it can Defog the spikes and OHKO Chesnaught. With this set, as Latios comes in on the expected Spikes or whatever, Chesnaught can setup a Sub and a Belly Drum after its Sub has been faded by Latios' Psyshock. At that point, both the Salac Berry and Overgrow are activated and Chesnaught is at +6 Atk, which means it outspeeds and OHKOes with Seed Bomb / Rock Slide or even Drain Punch if Latios wasn't already at full.

Calcs with tank set

0 Atk Chesnaught Wood Hammer vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Latios: 82-97 (27.4 - 32.4%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
0 Atk Chesnaught Drain Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Latios: 51-61 (17 - 20.4%) -- possible 5HKO

252 SpA Life Orb Latios Psyshock vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Chesnaught: 213-252 (56 - 66.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Life Orb Latios Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Chesnaught: 348-411 (91.5 - 108.1%) -- 50% chance to OHKO

Calcs with BD set

+6 244 Atk Chesnaught Drain Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Latios: 255-300 (85.2 - 100.3%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
+6 244 Atk Chesnaught Rock Slide vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Latios: 340-401 (113.7 - 134.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+6 244 Atk Overgrow Chesnaught Seed Bomb vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Latios: 408-480 (136.4 - 160.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

 

[Gareth de Voir]

Hm, this is a little passive lure but w/e

Venusaur @ Venusaurite
Ability: Chlorophyll
EVs: 248 HP / 96 Def / 144 SpD / 20 Spe
Bold Nature
- Giga Drain
- Sludge Bomb
- Synthesis
- Knock Off

Though a fatter Venusaur is quite rare nowadays, I find this to be a little more consistent. Besides, it does have move space for Knock Off. Basically, Latios would want to switch in, tanking a hit (SB's a 2HKO from a would-be expected offensive MVenu so it might not be too appealed to switch). From then, green guy can use Knock Off to take down Latios's Life Orb while dealing quite a number (around 44-52% if 0 Atk IVs). This strips a little bit from Latios's function and breaking capability. Oh, and you can also Knock Off much more than Latios's LO: Heatran's Lefties, Tornadus-T's AV (ty me and ur mom), and Gengar's LO are some good examples.

0- Atk Mega Venusaur Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Latios: 132-156 (44.1 - 52.1%) -- 13.3% chance to 2HKO

 

[MANNAT]

Charizard-Mega-Y @ Charizardite Y
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Fire Blast
- Solar Beam
- Roost
- Dragon Pulse

Dragon Pulse can lure in Latios, who normally switches in for free and can threaten zard with either of its STABs and 2hko the thing with little problem and narrowly avoiding the ohko from draco meteor.

Calcs

252 SpA Life Orb Latios Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Charizard Y: 246-290 (82.8 - 97.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Mega Charizard Y Dragon Pulse vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Latios: 198-234 (66.2 - 78.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

OR

Charizard-Mega-Y @ Charizardite Y
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Fire Blast
- Solar Beam
- Roost
- Focus Blast

Zardy generally runs a timid nature to speed tie with base 100s (manaphy, garde, medicham, etc.) and kill them, but modest zardy achieves that tantalizing 2HKO on latios with modest sun boosted fire Blast on the switch in (but you have to hit two).

Calcs

252+ SpA Mega Charizard Y Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Latios in Sun: 158-186 (52.8 - 62.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Latios Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Charizard Y: 246-290 (82.8 - 97.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

The decision of which variant to use depends on your team. If you aren't particularly weak to base 100 speed mons, need fighting coverage for ttar/tran, and wouldn't mind a latios killer, then modest zardy is the mon for you. However, if your team is weaker to base 100s, wants a more reliable latios lure, and doesn't necessarily need Focus Blast, then Dragon Pulse is better for your team.

 

[michaeloche]

Keldeo @ Choice Specs
Ability: Justified
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Scald
- Secret Sword
- Hydro Pump
- Icy Wind

A fairly common lure to be sure, but a lure nonetheless. Specs Icy Wind is a 2HKO, and due to the speed drop, if you hit Latios on the switch in, you will outspeed him the next turn and take him out. Just hope that it doesn't miss.

252 SpA Choice Specs Keldeo Icy Wind vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Latios: 166-196 (55.5 - 65.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

 

[AD impish john]

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Lures

Toxic Mega Manectric

Ice Beam Slowbro

Sucker Punch Zoroark

Crunch Hippowdon

Dual Chop Infernape

Belly Drum+Salac Berry Chesnaught

Knock Off Mega Venusaur

Dragon Pulse/Modest Nature Mega Charizard Y

Icy Wind Keldeo

 

[Dr Ciel]

Knock Off Mega Venusaur

 

[jordanthejq12]

Icy Wind Keldeo

 

[MrAldo]

That Knock Off Venusaur isnt physically offensive with swords dance, how sad

Modest Zard Y