Machamp (Revamp)

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Machamp

[OVERVIEW]
- Machamp is one of the best anti-lead in the OU metagame.
- No guard allow you to abuse of your main STAB dynamic punch which will always confuse.
- Rare counters in the metagame thanks to its insane movepool and power.
- Machamp is bulky which means he can take powerfull attack from other leads like leaf storm from roserade and draco meteor from dragonite and KO them with the right move.

[SET]
name: Sashchamp
move 1: Dynamic punch
move 2: Payback
move 3: Ice punch/Stone Edge
move 4: Bullet punch
item: Focus Sash
nature: Adamant/Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 Def

[SET COMMENTS]
- Focus sash will help you to beat some lead who can be annoying like Azelf,Power herb Aerodactyl and LO/Specs Tran.
- No guard allow you to abuse of your main STAB dynamic punch which will always confuse.
- Dynamic punch is your main STAB,confusion is the key of succes to prevent thing like Swampert/Hippowdon from setting their rocks.
- Payback allow you to hit ghost type/Starmie.
- Ice punch is used to hit Dragonite,Gliscor,Zapdos and Crobat.
- Stone Edge hit Gyarados and hit harder Zapdos,Crobat but its like useless against defensive Zapdos because of pressure.

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

- Jolly nature allow you to outspeed non-timid Empoleon lead,Uxie and full speed Tyranitar without positive nature and to beat lum berry Gross.
- Adamant nature is used to hit as strongly possible.
- Heatran is a great mate because it can handle jirachi who give trouble to this set
- LGS who can take advantage of the fact that machamp weaken bulky mon like Swampert/Hippowdon and sweeping with DD Nite/DD Ttar

[SET] Anti-Lead with Lum/Custap
move 1: Dynamic punch
move 2: Payback
move 3: Ice punch/Stone Edge
move 4: Bullet Punch
item: Lum Berry/Custap berry
nature: Adamant
evs: 240 Hp / 248 Atk / 16 SpeDef / 4 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
- Lum berry allow you to beat opposing Machamp/Roserade/Smeargle.
- No guard allow you to abuse of your main STAB dynamic punch which will always confuse.
- Dynamic punch is your main STAB,confusion is the key of succes to prevent thing like Swampert/Hippowdon from setting their rocks.
- Payback is used to hit ghost type mainly Gengar and Rotom-A.
- Ice punch is used to hit Dragonite,Gliscor,Zapdos and Crobat.
- Stone Edge hit harder Zapdos,Crobat and Gyarados but defensive Zapdos will PP stall you with pressure.
- 240 Hp 16 SpeDef allow you to leave Psychic from Azelf/Leaf Storm from Roserade and Draco Meteor from Dragonite.4 Speed are used to outspeed minimum-speed Blissey.
- Custap Berry is really usefull since most of attacker will never KO you in one hit,you will be able to activate the custap to beat them (like Zapdos) or just get a free kill after the lead died(KO Dnite and get a free kill on the next mon).

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

- Heatran is a great mate because it can handle Jirachi/Azelf who can give trouble to this set.
- Tyranitar handle perfectly Azelf which is a problem for this set.
- LGS who can take advantage of the fact that machamp weaken bulky mon like Swampert/Hippowdon and sweeping with DD Nite/DD Ttar.

[SET]
name: SubChamp
move 1: Substitue
move 2: Dynamic punch
move 3: Payback
move 4: Stone Edge
item: Leftovers
nature: Adamant
evs: 128 HP / 252 Atk / 128 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
- One of the most annoying set to face in the dpp OU since you will have to sacrifice a pokemon to break his substitue.
- 128 Spe allow you to outspeed 0 Spe Skarmory and 128 Hp bulk up Substitue hp.
- No guard allow you to abuse of your main STAB dynamic punch which will always confuse.
- Substitue protect you from common statuts.
- Dynamic punch is your main STAB with good coverage and ability to always confuse.
- Payback allow you to hit ghost type/Starmie
- Stone Edge allow you to hit Zapdos/Crobat/Gyarados and Dragonite.


[SET]
name: RestTalk
move 1: Rest
move 2: Sleep Talk
move 3: Dynamic Punch
move 4: Payback/Stone Edge/Ice punch
item: Leftovers
nature: Adamant
evs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

- Rest and Sleep Talk are standard fare on a RestTalk set. Sleep Talk is especially useful when used in conjunction with the low-PP Dynamic Punch, as it will use its own PP instead of the actual attacking move's
- No guard allow you to abuse of your main STAB dynamic punch which will always confuse.
Dynamic punch is your main STAB with good coverage and ability to always confuse.
- Payback allow you to hit ghost type/Starmie
- Stone Edge allow you to hit Zapdos/Crobat/Gyarados and Dragonite.
- Ice punch allow you to hit Zapdos/Crobat/Dragonite and Gliscor.

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
- Another spread can be used ; 252 Hp/16 Atk/240 Def to take less from CB Tyranitar.
- Without Payback,Rotom-A/Starmie can be annoying.Strong pursuit user like Scizor/Tyranitar are recommended.
- Without Stone Edge/Ice punch you can't hit Zapdos/Gyarados/Dragonite/Gliscor for super effective damage.Tyranitar/Swampert/Starmie are good teammate.
- Could be used as lead.

[CHECKS AND COUNTERS]

- Crobat
- Zapdos (Defensive variants)
- Gliscor (Without ice punch)
- Skarmory
- Slowbro
- Cresselia
- Uxie
- Celebi
 
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Be sure to specify No Guard for any sets with Dynamicpunch. RestTalk can run either ability (NG primary) though.

Choice Band should be listed too because of its power, though not common.

 
i personally think max hp is a nice alterantive on sub set (and i think is what i've used always), this machamp fits v well on these kind of teams spreading twave so its very likely skarm (or w.e) has been already paralyze by rachi / celebi / gyara etc also creeping 0 spe skarm looks super shaky in my eyes as its not uncommon thing they could run little spe evs for these ww wars in skarm vs skarm and such. also max hp has some advantage like crunch from scarftar can't break sub so free sub here, it can survive a luke cc after sr if needed lol, and in general champ is somewhat bulky and aprreciates extra bulk which can go long way

aslo i would slash ice punch on sub set is hella good (as in general too), only thing u missing is gyara which can be worn down by repeated attacks + weak to rocks etc and old restalk gyara is rare in modern dpp. the benefit of being able to beat gliscor (and sorta nido) is really good esp when 0 fucks will be given about sand veil :pirate:

custap as a option for sub set too imo. if u get sub + custap range is basically 2 kills

also i think u r missing ac section for sub set and oo section

just wanted to share some of my thoughts esp about the sub set :)
 
i'm not particularly sure if custap berry on the lead set is reliable or splashable enough to warrant a main slash. i certainly like it, but lum is typically better in a non bo1 setting (thinking large sample set)

chestorest should be mentioned on the antilead set as well. i feel like sash and lum could be combined into one set but wutevz
 
Aren't Lum and Sash Machamp practically the same thing? Anti lead with the exact same moveset. The only differences are the way they matchup against some leads and that Lum Machamp usually runs some bulk.
 
I personally think that Lum is better that Sash Machamp because Sash is only useful against rare leads like LO+Overheat Heatran, Band/LO Azelf, Band Dragonite and Power Herb Aerodactyl. It can't stop Colbur Azelf either, still loses to Scarf Jirachi, loses to opossing Lum Machamp, only has a 50% chance to beat Lum Metagross and has less bulk which is bad for a slow mon.

In the other hand Lum Machamp can beat more common leads like Roserade and Smeargle, its not a setup fodder for Breloom and has the ability to absorb a WoW from Rotom and weaken it so something like Gyarados or non Crunch Lucario can take advantage of.
 
dice said:
i'm not particularly sure if custap berry on the lead set is reliable or splashable enough to warrant a main slash. i certainly like it, but lum is typically better in a non bo1 setting (thinking large sample set)

chestorest should be mentioned on the antilead set as well. i feel like sash and lum could be combined into one set but wutevz
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Grabbing a free kill t2 is not negligable so Custap is a very good item on him imo(with the bulky set)

As mentionned by NightFox,Lum Berry and Sash Machamp aren't comparable on their match up with other leads.

Choice Band is the worst set i ever seen,i don't think it should be mentionned

I will add the ChestoRest as lead its sounds good
 
A small question, I'm not sure what "LGS" is. Other than that, looks pretty solid! You might want to try Encore in OO. It can stop setups and mess with entry hazard mons. Guts is a good alternative too, if people expect to neuter Machamp by burning it.
 
PumpedAaron said:
A small question, I'm not sure what "LGS" is. Other than that, looks pretty solid! You might want to try Encore in OO. It can stop setups and mess with entry hazard mons. Guts is a good alternative too, if people expect to neuter Machamp by burning it.
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LGS means late game sweeper. Idk if encore would be a good idea since the main point of using Machamp is to beat those mons through confusion. I think that gust is ok on something like a choice band set but not on the lead set.
 
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