This is literally the most awesome thing ever. But, his deck playstyle (control with main intents to mill) really shows how time-consuming it is trying to get Army out. Modern (though perhaps not Standard) on Cockatrice/other sims is just too fast for an 8-drop, imo.
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This is literally the most awesome thing ever. But, his deck playstyle (control with main intents to mill) really shows how time-consuming it is trying to get Army out. Modern (though perhaps not Standard) on Cockatrice/other sims is just too fast for an 8-drop, imo.
it always looked to be a decent 1-of finisher in ub control, so i'm not really surprised by that. it was a very good read though.
modern has good ramp available; you can suspend for ramp t1 (don't remember the card name), then sakura-tribe elder or rampant growth t2 (3 land) for a t3 sad robot (6 land), giving you a reasonable chance to get to 8 on t4 but you're better off just slamming down titans from then on. there's also the issue of rdw and zoo smacking you in the face basically every turn and killing you before you do anything other than ramp, and twin can win t4 as well. then you have the problem of not really being able to do anything to these decks if you're heavily in green.
modern has good ramp available; you can suspend for ramp t1 (don't remember the card name), then sakura-tribe elder or rampant growth t2 (3 land) for a t3 sad robot (6 land), giving you a reasonable chance to get to 8 on t4 but you're better off just slamming down titans from then on. there's also the issue of rdw and zoo smacking you in the face basically every turn and killing you before you do anything other than ramp, and twin can win t4 as well. then you have the problem of not really being able to do anything to these decks if you're heavily in green.
Would like to introduce the idea of Horde Magic. this is mainly for edh players, but I think it is very interesting, and because it is so flavourful, definitely appeals to me.
I won't be around for a while, but I think this would be interesting to give a try. It would definitely make a change, as often we're at each others throats on the battlefield!
I won't be around for a while, but I think this would be interesting to give a try. It would definitely make a change, as often we're at each others throats on the battlefield!
so i'm thinking of setting up a draft tournament of sorts, spread across a few weeks (not sure how many would be good as it'd probably be interest dependent) with a points table and all that jazz. the only problem i had was whether it would be better to organise it via a draft sim like ccgdecks or something, or just by doing it via pm. i can see a few pros and cons for either method, which is why i'm torn. via pm means we don't all need to be on at a set time, which makes it easier for participants and myself as host (or whoever hosts, as i'd like to participate too >_>) due to work / school / timezones in general. but if it's done on a draft sim it means the drafting is all done far quicker (although we have had a bit of difficulty when drafting because #mtg wants to, which makes me less inclined to do it this way). basically i'm leaning towards handling it via pm because it seems to just be easier and requires less commitment.
thoughts?
thoughts?
With inspiration from that article, last Friday, I set out to make a similar deck, but crafted it more towards what my own collection can provide and my playstyle. Took 3rd/4th at an FNM with it, for what it is worth, and it seemed to run quite fine.
Creatures (4)
|2| Mindshrieker
|1| Chancellor of the Dross
|1| Rune-Scarred Demon
Sorceries/Instants (25)
|4| Dissipate
|4| Mana Leak
|1| Negate
|3| Black Sun's Zenith
|3| Doom Blade
|1| Tribute to Hunger
|1| Victim of Night
|3| Think Twice
|2| Ponder
|1| Forbidden Alchemy
|1| Army of the Damned
|1| Despise
Artifacts (3)
|2| Mimic Vat
|1| Elixir of Immortality
Planeswalkers (3)
|1| Karn Liberated
|1| Jace, Memory Adept
|1| Liliana of the Veil
Land (26)
|7| Island
|7| Swamp
|4| Drowned Catacomb
|4| Darkslick Shores
|2| Nephalia Drownyard
|2| Ghost Quarter
Sideboard (15)
|15| . . . ?
I am actually testing out the Chancellor, Rune-Scarred Demon, and the third Black Sun Zenith at the moment. They seem to be working alright, but I have not had the opportunity to test them very much yet.
Never mind the color and links. I just recopied it from another place I have posted it (a thread which prompted zero responses...).
Currently I'm dicking around with a UG Aggro grave-based deck. It's all kinds of hilarious. I've had 12/12 tramplers out on turn 4 with any luck, for instance, all of which get bigger. And I noticed that this deck could pretty much go straight scarecrow tribal. CAW CAW MOTHERFUCKERS.
LANDS (21)
9x Forest
9x Island
2x Hinterland Harbor
1x Woodland Cemetery
CREATURES (27)
2x Birds of Paradise
2x Merfolk Looter
2x Llanowar Elves
2x Acidic Slime
3x Viridian Emissary
1x Skinshifter
3x Boneyard Wurm
4x Mindshrieker
3x Kessig Cagebreakers
4x Splinterfright
1x Armored Skaab
SPELLS (11)
4x Forbidden Alchemy
1x Bonehoard
2x Gnaw to the Bone
2x Postmortem Lunge
2x Wreath of Geists
PLANESWALKERS (1)
1x Garruk, Primal Hunter
LANDS (21)
9x Forest
9x Island
2x Hinterland Harbor
1x Woodland Cemetery
CREATURES (27)
2x Birds of Paradise
2x Merfolk Looter
2x Llanowar Elves
2x Acidic Slime
3x Viridian Emissary
1x Skinshifter
3x Boneyard Wurm
4x Mindshrieker
3x Kessig Cagebreakers
4x Splinterfright
1x Armored Skaab
SPELLS (11)
4x Forbidden Alchemy
1x Bonehoard
2x Gnaw to the Bone
2x Postmortem Lunge
2x Wreath of Geists
PLANESWALKERS (1)
1x Garruk, Primal Hunter
If you want to improve your deck's consistency, you should increase the number of key cards and remove some of the extra fluff you have in there. I would recommend adding another Boneyard Wurm, 2 more Merfolk Looters, a few more Armored Skaabs, and increasing the number of mana creatures. Putting spells in your deck that don't do anything when you mill them is risky, so I would rather have 4 Dream Twist, a few Spider Spawning, and things like that. Bonehoard is probably strong enough to put it in regardless, though. I don't like the creature enchantments, the random 1 of Garruk, the Postmortem Lunges, and some of the creatures (Slime, skinshifter, emissary, that high of a number of mindshriekers). 4 Alchemys is probably too many as well, considering you are an aggressive deck.
i'm running something similar to this, and this is what i've got after editing it with a few cards i thought i really should be running off your list.
dudes (24):
[4] boneyard wurm
[4] deranged assistant
[2] kessig cagebreakers
[4] merfolk looter
[4] mindshrieker
[2] primeval titan
[4] splinterfright
other spells (12):
[2] bonehoard
[3] beast within
[3] forbidden alchemy
[2] jace, memory adept
[2] spider spawning
land (24):
[2] drowned catacomb
[7] forest
[4] hinterland harbor
[7] island
[2] nephalia drownyard
[2] woodland cemetery
[4] boneyard wurm
[4] deranged assistant
[2] kessig cagebreakers
[4] merfolk looter
[4] mindshrieker
[2] primeval titan
[4] splinterfright
other spells (12):
[2] bonehoard
[3] beast within
[3] forbidden alchemy
[2] jace, memory adept
[2] spider spawning
land (24):
[2] drowned catacomb
[7] forest
[4] hinterland harbor
[7] island
[2] nephalia drownyard
[2] woodland cemetery
i'm not sure about deranged assistant is all.
A quick question about Inkwell Leviathan... can he be revived by Reanimate or any other card with "target" in its text? I'm thinking he can, because the guy who made Graveborn seems to know what he's talking about, but he has shroud....
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EDIT: If you've got an extra $.99, I advise checking out the mtg master app for the itouch, iphone.
@fatsnorlax, yes, Inkwell Leviathan can be targeted while in the graveyard, because shroud only works while it's a permanent, and it's only a permanent while it's on the battlefield. Once it's in the graveyard, it's a card, not a permanent, and therefore can be targeted.
The answer to this question is an emphatic YES
this is what i said last time you asked too. :D
Standard or Ravnica block
Another vote for Ravnica block~