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Maximum Carnage Mafia - Avengers Win! (As well as Pidge and tredge)

There's still the Carnage Squad. Speaking of which, we should probably lynch one of them. Reachzero and Gamefreak are pretty much confirmed.

EDIT: might as well just in case. Lynch Game_Freak201. Following Lonelyness' logic.
 
Actually on second thought, reachzero is just the silencer, whereas Gamefreak may be a far better role, perhaps an inspector type, or a bodyguard type role.

The potential is far greater in hitting gamefreak.

Changing vote to Lynch Game_Freak201
 
hmmm

Change lynch to Game_Freak201

although... why would Reach Send Game_Freak as a personal messenger if he was important? wouldn't he send an expendable faction member instead? just saying.

I still say this mafia has a strangle hold on the village...
 
Sorry I haven't been posting, I haven't been able to get on long enough to be completely active on mafia outside of IRC due to grounding from bad grades for my first semester report :x

After looking back at things, I'm going to wait to see the main arguments from both sides before I vote so I know the reason I'm voting
 
Just a chat i had with Game_Freak

<Game_Freak201> A source of mine claims that you claimed as Carnage Squad inspector
<J-man> no
<J-man> i claimed Kannon as carnage squad inspector
<J-man> *snip* saying my role
<Game_Freak201> kk
<Game_Freak201> My source says otherwise, though
<Game_Freak201> Note that I now suspect you
<J-man> look
<J-man> exchange?
<Game_Freak201> You already know I'm Carnage Squad
<Game_Freak201> I also know that you claimed as Beetle to one of my sources
<Game_Freak201> While another source of mine says you claimed as Carnage Squad inspector
<Game_Freak201> Okay, I was mistaken
<Game_Freak201> You claimed as the Carnage Squad BG
<Game_Freak201> I still suspect you, though
<Game_Freak201> And might start a lynch on you if no better targets show up.
<Game_Freak201> Which faction are you from?
<J-man> i've told you
<J-man> Sinister 12
<Game_Freak201> I'm not buying it
<Game_Freak201> If you're mafia aligned, we can help you
<Game_Freak201> protect one of your members
<Game_Freak201> I formed a temporary alliance with the village to eliminate Spiderman
<J-man> you be dead
<J-man> tomorrow
<Game_Freak201> You're mafia?
<Game_Freak201> We can help you
<J-man> no
<Game_Freak201> How come?
<Game_Freak201> He didn't say
<Game_Freak201> I'm assuming that he's mad that I found out he's mafia
<J-man> WHo didn't say?
<Game_Freak201> We can help you protect a member
<Game_Freak201> If you're actually mafia
<Game_Freak201> We can cancel a lynch
<Game_Freak201> If you're willing to work with us
<Game_Freak201> Because I can have you lynched really quickly if I release all my information
<J-man> i'm clean
<Game_Freak201> Then why threaten to kill me?
<J-man> i'm not
<J-man> the village is lynching you
<J-man> you are an enemy now
<Game_Freak201> 22:20 J-man you be dead
<Game_Freak201> 22:20 J-man tomorrow
<J-man> today is more like it
<J-man> sorry fellow aquaman
<Game_Freak201> Another reason to believe you're mafia
<J-man> is?
<Game_Freak201> You're slip-up with your quote
<J-man> what quote?
<Game_Freak201> 22:35 Game_Freak201 22:20 J-man tomorrow
<Game_Freak201> You would've said today if you wanted to lynch me
<J-man> ...
<J-man> I said tomorrow cause i thought we were lynching reachzero
<Game_Freak201> Which faction are you in?
<Game_Freak201> I'm calling BS
<Game_Freak201> I'm currently the one in the lead
<Game_Freak201> I can sway the vote to you, though
<J-man> now i'm saying today since Lonelyness obviously wants you dead
<Game_Freak201> If I release my information
<Game_Freak201> Our faction needs allies.
<Game_Freak201> We can help you
<J-man> no
 
Lynch GameFreak201

He and reachzero are the only confirmed mafia I have at this point. I have a few other suspicions, but none are set in stone enough to lynch.

By the way, I would like everyone to claim to me, or at least talk to me. I have inherited the village spreadsheet; however, macle didn't see it fit to fill in a lot of it - most likely due to his win condition being dependent on survival. I have already talked with many of you, but there are still a handful of you who should contact me.
 
Let me post the completely unaltered chat:
21:29 Game_Freak201 A source of mine claims that you claimed as Carnage Squad inspector
21:29 J-man no
21:29 J-man i claimed Kannon as carnage squad inspector
21:29 J-man i'm sinister 12 bg
21:29 Game_Freak201 kk
21:29 Game_Freak201 My source says otherwise, though
21:29 Game_Freak201 Note that I now suspect you
21:30 J-man look
21:30 J-man exchange?
21:30 Game_Freak201 You already know I'm Carnage Squad
21:31 Game_Freak201 I also know that you claimed as Beetle to one of my sources
21:31 Game_Freak201 While another source of mine says you claimed as Carnage Squad inspector
21:34 Game_Freak201 Okay, I was mistaken
21:34 Game_Freak201 You claimed as the Carnage Squad BG
21:34 Game_Freak201 I still suspect you, though
21:35 Game_Freak201 And might start a lynch on you if no better targets show up.
22:11 Game_Freak201 Which faction are you from?
22:11 J-man i've told you
22:11 J-man Sinister 12
22:11 Game_Freak201 I'm not buying it
22:15 Game_Freak201 If you're mafia aligned, we can help you
22:16 Game_Freak201 protect one of your members
22:16 Game_Freak201 I formed a temporary alliance with the village to eliminate Spiderman
22:20 J-man you be dead
22:20 J-man tomorrow
22:20 Game_Freak201 You're mafia?
22:20 Game_Freak201 We can help you
22:20 J-man no
22:20 Game_Freak201 How come?
22:22 Game_Freak201 He didn't say
22:22 Game_Freak201 I'm assuming that he's mad that I found out he's mafia
22:22 J-man WHo didn't say?
22:23 Game_Freak201 We can help you protect a member
22:23 Game_Freak201 If you're actually mafia
22:33 Game_Freak201 We can cancel a lynch
22:33 Game_Freak201 If you're willing to work with us
22:34 Game_Freak201 Because I can have you lynched really quickly if I release all my information
22:34 J-man i'm clean
22:34 Game_Freak201 Then why threaten to kill me?
22:34 J-man i'm not
22:35 J-man the village is lynching you
22:35 J-man you are an enemy now
22:35 Game_Freak201 22:20 J-man you be dead
22:35 Game_Freak201 22:20 J-man tomorrow
22:35 J-man today is more like it
22:35 J-man sorry fellow aquaman
22:35 Game_Freak201 Another reason to believe you're mafia
22:35 J-man is?
22:35 Game_Freak201 You're slip-up with your quote
22:36 J-man what quote?
22:36 Game_Freak201 22:35 Game_Freak201 22:20 J-man tomorrow
22:36 Game_Freak201 You would've said today if you wanted to lynch me
22:36 J-man ...
22:36 Game_Freak201 Which faction are you in?
22:36 J-man I said tomorrow cause i thought we were lynching reachzero
22:37 Game_Freak201 I'm calling BS
22:37 Game_Freak201 I'm currently the one in the lead
22:37 Game_Freak201 I can sway the vote to you, though
22:37 J-man now i'm saying today since Lonelyness obviously wants you dead
22:37 Game_Freak201 If I release my information
22:38 Game_Freak201 Our faction needs allies.
22:38 Game_Freak201 We can help you
22:39 J-man no
22:39 J-man no
22:39 J-man no
22:39 J-man no

Note: I got mixed up with my information and thought that j-man was claiming as CS inspector. He was instead claimed as BG for CS. I can say with confidence he's a liar and most likely mafia-aligned.
 
I agree with the argument to lynch Game Freak201. However, I believe that it is the best course of action to afterwards work together with Carnage Squad. Consider the game right now with Carnage, Sandman, and Venom gone and Game Freak201's lynch:

11 1/2 S12 vs. 3 1/2 CS vs. 9 Spiderman faction vs. 1 unknown neutral
(DCJ is the half since he wins with either faction)

If Spiderman Factions have at least 2 kill roles, then S12 is screwed without CS. We need to work together with CS, without giving away too much information. If we can take Spiderman down tomorrow for example, not including other kills, the totals would be this:

11 1/2 S12 vs. 3 1/2 CS vs. 4 Avenger vs. 4 Slinger vs. 1 unknown neutral

It would be for both CS and S12 to eliminate Spiderman to force the Avengers and Slingers to fight each other. If CS goes before Spiderman does, we could be in major trouble. They could ultimately control both day and night kills. I say we still get rid of GF201, but leave reachzero and the other CS members be until Spiderman is gone.

Just F.Y.I. this is from an S12 point of view
 
Mafia contact me or Game_Freak, please (depending on who is lynched today). If I'm going to be lynched anyway, might as well do the most damage while I can.
 
FinnRagetti said:
I agree with the argument to lynch Game Freak201. However, I believe that it is the best course of action to afterwards work together with Carnage Squad. Consider the game right now with Carnage, Sandman, and Venom gone and Game Freak201's lynch:

11 1/2 S12 vs. 3 1/2 CS vs. 9 Spiderman faction vs. 1 unknown neutral
(DCJ is the half since he wins with either faction)

If Spiderman Factions have at least 2 kill roles, then S12 is screwed without CS. We need to work together with CS, without giving away too much information. If we can take Spiderman down tomorrow for example, not including other kills, the totals would be this:

11 1/2 S12 vs. 3 1/2 CS vs. 4 Avenger vs. 4 Slinger vs. 1 unknown neutral

It would be for both CS and S12 to eliminate Spiderman to force the Avengers and Slingers to fight each other. If CS goes before Spiderman does, we could be in major trouble. They could ultimately control both day and night kills. I say we still get rid of GF201, but leave reachzero and the other CS members be until Spiderman is gone.

Just F.Y.I. this is from an S12 point of view
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The only problem with this is that Reachzero doesn't want to work with us.
 
zorbees said:
The only problem with this is that Reachzero doesn't want to work with us.
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I've talked with Game Freak201 and he's been more than open to talk to. Unless we want to take out reachzero instead then we have to work with reachzero unless we want the other mafia to win. Should we still get gf201 or go for reach instead? I'd pick gf because he's been the more open to us and is willing to work with us.
 
I have stated many times to Eo, Kharozz, AND Zorbees that I'm still open to working with the village, presuming that they don't simply lynch us all. However, I have no reason to work with a faction that is intent on lynching my entire faction immediately.
 
In case you all didn't see the edit to the end date, the day doesn't end until majority and I have gotten all necessary PMs or idles from people with day abilities.
 
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