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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

Mephiztopheles said:
Thank you Nexus and Darckchaos.

Just one last question: Just finished killing off all of the birds and Cresselia. The pokemon roaming number just counts as zero or should I count it as three when going for the birds for the RNG advancement? I haven't gone again to fullmoon Island for Cresselia.
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cresselia does not respawn when you kill it in platinum, and a roamer does not count unless it is actually roaming around sinnoh if it is not then you do not count it.
 
Hi, I just started RNGing today... and I've run into a minor issue. My frame number keeps going lower and lower... When I initially calibrated it, it was 7, but it has since fallen by 1 repeatedly to 6 5 4 3 and now 2. This wouldn't be much of a problem, except that I havn't been getting consistent frame advancements using the journal method (Pearl) so I was instead just shooting for hatches (I'm using the hatch method) that fell on my 'base' frame... ie the frame that I was getting without journal advancement. However, this frame number keeps dropping, such that every time I find a target in, say, frame 3, my base frame drops again, now down to 2... Regarding the journal methods inconsistency, when i was shooting for frame 14, I was unable to reach it from frame 6, I could get to frame 12, but not to 14. When I adjusted and shot for a frame 12 spread, I seemed to encounter an upper bound at 10 frame, no matter how many times i flipped to a journal page with a capture. I'm sure that I'm doing something wrong to mess with the frame and frame/advancement, but I am not sure what, exactly. Can anyone shed light on my predicament? Thanks.
 
Are any of these shiny spreads useful (all the semi-good ones I have)?
PID: a149b583 (GENTLE, ability 1) 28/27/31/27/28/30 (Seed: 9d03029b Method 1: 1604, J (synch): 1577, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 1581, K (no synch): 1589) HP BUG 49
PID: 3a6b2ea2 (BASHFUL, ability 0) 25/28/31/29/28/30 (Seed: 870e026a Method 1: 24456, J (synch): 24321, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 24317, K (no synch): 24329) HP BUG 37
PID: 1de6092f (CALM, ability 1) 25/28/26/26/27/30 (Seed: 0411025d Method 1: 3050, J (synch): 2977, J (no synch): 2981, K (synch): 2977, K (no synch): None) HP STEEL 68
PID: 2f113bdc (JOLLY, ability 0) 30/26/30/25/25/30 (Seed: 1e12029d Method 1: 2887, J (synch): 2874, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 2869, K (no synch): 2870) HP ELECTRIC 39
PID: 9c9d8850 (RASH, ability 0) 25/26/30/25/26/31 (Seed: 030c0272 Method 1: 1090, J (synch): 1061, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 1061, K (no synch): 1069) HP BUG 59
PID: e264f6ae (MILD, ability 0) 29/28/31/29/25/31 (Seed: 0d1102a0 Method 1: 5643, J (synch): 5524, J (no synch): 5538, K (synch): 5522, K (no synch): None) HP DRAGON 37
PID: 1186054f (BOLD, ability 1) 30/25/27/28/26/30 (Seed: 010d026d Method 1: 3867, J (synch): 3864, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 3864, K (no synch): 3864) HP FLYING 58
PID: b2aba661 (SASSY, ability 1) 29/26/27/29/25/31 (Seed: b710025a Method 1: 9036, J (synch): 8935, J (no synch): 8941, K (synch): 8935, K (no synch): 8997) HP DRAGON 38
PID: a86dbca1 (LONELY, ability 1) 30/31/26/28/26/31 (Seed: f2080277 Method 1: 11578, J (synch): 11507, J (no synch): 11543, K (synch): 11507, K (no synch): 11529) HP POISON 59
PID: 3e9f2a51 (QUIRKY, ability 1) 30/30/25/26/29/30 (Seed: b60a02b7 Method 1: 20338, J (synch): 20256, J (no synch): 20257, K (synch): 20251, K (no synch): 20309) HP FIRE 47
PID: 8d6e99a0 (RASH, ability 0) 25/26/26/25/31/31 (Seed: bc0502b2 Method 1: 8283, J (synch): 8236, J (no synch): 8244, K (synch): 8242, K (no synch): 8280) HP ICE 59
PID: c1fdd534 (LONELY, ability 0) 31/31/28/29/29/30 (Seed: f00c02a6 Method 1: 1397, J (synch): 1326, J (no synch): 1360, K (synch): 1324, K (no synch): None) HP PSYCHIC 36
PID: df06cbcb (BOLD, ability 1) 28/27/28/26/25/31 (Seed: a70d0277 Method 1: 15082, J (synch): 14975, J (no synch): 15081, K (synch): 14973, K (no synch): 14975) HP GRASS 46
PID: e2d3f61c (MILD, ability 0) 28/29/30/26/30/31 (Seed: 060602ab Method 1: 15990, J (synch): 15907, J (no synch): 15911, K (synch): 15907, K (no synch): 15929) HP POISON 68
PID: 7bf56f3b (JOLLY, ability 1) 25/30/30/28/30/31 (Seed: 5d1302b6 Method 1: 17478, J (synch): 17295, J (no synch): 17367, K (synch): 17299, K (no synch): 17301) HP POISON 59
PID: 21493583 (BOLD, ability 1) 28/27/31/27/28/30 (Seed: 1d03029b Method 1: 1604, J (synch): 1549, J (no synch): 1603, K (synch): 1549, K (no synch): 1551) HP BUG 49
PID: ba6baea2 (LAX, ability 0) 25/28/31/29/28/30 (Seed: 070e026a Method 1: 24456, J (synch): 24419, J (no synch): 24449, K (synch): 24419, K (no synch): 24431) HP BUG 37
PID: 9de6892f (HASTY, ability 1) 25/28/26/26/27/30 (Seed: 8411025d Method 1: 3050, J (synch): 3009, J (no synch): 3015, K (synch): 3005, K (no synch): 3011) HP STEEL 68
PID: af11bbdc (NAUGHTY, ability 0) 30/26/30/25/25/30 (Seed: 9e12029d Method 1: 2887, J (synch): 2844, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 2846, K (no synch): None) HP ELECTRIC 39
PID: 1c9d0850 (ADAMANT, ability 0) 25/26/30/25/26/31 (Seed: 830c0272 Method 1: 1090, J (synch): 1007, J (no synch): 1013, K (synch): 1008, K (no synch): 1007) HP BUG 59
PID: 626476ae (HARDY, ability 0) 29/28/31/29/25/31 (Seed: 8d1102a0 Method 1: 5643, J (synch): 5588, J (no synch): 5600, K (synch): 5588, K (no synch): None) HP DRAGON 37
PID: 9186854f (GENTLE, ability 1) 30/25/27/28/26/30 (Seed: 810d026d Method 1: 3867, J (synch): 3850, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 3854, K (no synch): 3856) HP FLYING 58
PID: 32ab2661 (DOCILE, ability 1) 29/26/27/29/25/31 (Seed: 3710025a Method 1: 9036, J (synch): None, J (no synch): None, K (synch): None, K (no synch): None) HP DRAGON 38
PID: 286d3ca1 (TIMID, ability 1) 30/31/26/28/26/31 (Seed: 72080277 Method 1: 11578, J (synch): 11549, J (no synch): 11577, K (synch): 11549, K (no synch): 11575) HP POISON 59
PID: be9faa51 (MODEST, ability 1) 30/30/25/26/29/30 (Seed: 360a02b7 Method 1: 20338, J (synch): 20047, J (no synch): 20055, K (synch): 20047, K (no synch): 20049) HP FIRE 47
PID: 0d6e19a0 (ADAMANT, ability 0) 25/26/26/25/31/31 (Seed: 3c0502b2 Method 1: 8283, J (synch): 8278, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 8278, K (no synch): None) HP ICE 59
PID: 41fd5534 (TIMID, ability 0) 31/31/28/29/29/30 (Seed: 700c02a6 Method 1: 1397, J (synch): 1348, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 1348, K (no synch): 1394) HP PSYCHIC 36
PID: 5f064bcb (NAIVE, ability 1) 28/27/28/26/25/31 (Seed: 270d0277 Method 1: 15082, J (synch): 15018, J (no synch): 15019, K (synch): 15019, K (no synch): None) HP GRASS 46
PID: 62d3761c (HARDY, ability 0) 28/29/30/26/30/31 (Seed: 860602ab Method 1: 15990, J (synch): 15973, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 15971, K (no synch): None) HP POISON 68
PID: fbf5ef3b (NAUGHTY, ability 1) 25/30/30/28/30/31 (Seed: dd1302b6 Method 1: 17478, J (synch): 17433, J (no synch): 17463, K (synch): 17435, K (no synch): 17443) HP POISON 59
 
pie4life said:
Hi, I just started RNGing today... and I've run into a minor issue. My frame number keeps going lower and lower... When I initially calibrated it, it was 7, but it has since fallen by 1 repeatedly to 6 5 4 3 and now 2. This wouldn't be much of a problem, except that I havn't been getting consistent frame advancements using the journal method (Pearl) so I was instead just shooting for hatches (I'm using the hatch method) that fell on my 'base' frame... ie the frame that I was getting without journal advancement. However, this frame number keeps dropping, such that every time I find a target in, say, frame 3, my base frame drops again, now down to 2... Regarding the journal methods inconsistency, when i was shooting for frame 14, I was unable to reach it from frame 6, I could get to frame 12, but not to 14. When I adjusted and shot for a frame 12 spread, I seemed to encounter an upper bound at 10 frame, no matter how many times i flipped to a journal page with a capture. I'm sure that I'm doing something wrong to mess with the frame and frame/advancement, but I am not sure what, exactly. Can anyone shed light on my predicament? Thanks.
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Getting a good starting frame is probably one of the most annoying things of RNG abuse, right next to hitting the right delay.
But judging by your situation, I would suggest the following - just re-save and re-calibrate for your frame. It will save you so many headaches, and if you have an inconsistent frame, you'll never get what you want
 
I'm trying to abuse for a shiny egg and then for IV's, but whenever I calculate the taps on the poketch, they're always above 200 taps(happiness application). Is there any way to get around this? I'd prefer it if the taps were below 200, at least... I remember getting some shiny eggs(1 or 2) just by 80-something taps, but it barely happens anymore. Then again, I just started RNG, so I've only done it a few times.
 
black.arwing said:
I'm trying to abuse for a shiny egg and then for IV's, but whenever I calculate the taps on the poketch, they're always above 200 taps(happiness application). Is there any way to get around this? I'd prefer it if the taps were below 200, at least... I remember getting some shiny eggs(1 or 2) just by 80-something taps, but it barely happens anymore. Then again, I just started RNG, so I've only done it a few times.
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read this it will save you a whole lot of trouble when trying to RNG for shinyness/ability/nature

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64925
 
Despotar said:
Are any of these shiny spreads useful (all the semi-good ones I have)?
PID: a149b583 (GENTLE, ability 1) 28/27/31/27/28/30 (Seed: 9d03029b Method 1: 1604, J (synch): 1577, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 1581, K (no synch): 1589) HP BUG 49
PID: 3a6b2ea2 (BASHFUL, ability 0) 25/28/31/29/28/30 (Seed: 870e026a Method 1: 24456, J (synch): 24321, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 24317, K (no synch): 24329) HP BUG 37
PID: 1de6092f (CALM, ability 1) 25/28/26/26/27/30 (Seed: 0411025d Method 1: 3050, J (synch): 2977, J (no synch): 2981, K (synch): 2977, K (no synch): None) HP STEEL 68
PID: 2f113bdc (JOLLY, ability 0) 30/26/30/25/25/30 (Seed: 1e12029d Method 1: 2887, J (synch): 2874, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 2869, K (no synch): 2870) HP ELECTRIC 39
PID: 9c9d8850 (RASH, ability 0) 25/26/30/25/26/31 (Seed: 030c0272 Method 1: 1090, J (synch): 1061, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 1061, K (no synch): 1069) HP BUG 59
PID: e264f6ae (MILD, ability 0) 29/28/31/29/25/31 (Seed: 0d1102a0 Method 1: 5643, J (synch): 5524, J (no synch): 5538, K (synch): 5522, K (no synch): None) HP DRAGON 37
PID: 1186054f (BOLD, ability 1) 30/25/27/28/26/30 (Seed: 010d026d Method 1: 3867, J (synch): 3864, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 3864, K (no synch): 3864) HP FLYING 58
PID: b2aba661 (SASSY, ability 1) 29/26/27/29/25/31 (Seed: b710025a Method 1: 9036, J (synch): 8935, J (no synch): 8941, K (synch): 8935, K (no synch): 8997) HP DRAGON 38
PID: a86dbca1 (LONELY, ability 1) 30/31/26/28/26/31 (Seed: f2080277 Method 1: 11578, J (synch): 11507, J (no synch): 11543, K (synch): 11507, K (no synch): 11529) HP POISON 59
PID: 3e9f2a51 (QUIRKY, ability 1) 30/30/25/26/29/30 (Seed: b60a02b7 Method 1: 20338, J (synch): 20256, J (no synch): 20257, K (synch): 20251, K (no synch): 20309) HP FIRE 47
PID: 8d6e99a0 (RASH, ability 0) 25/26/26/25/31/31 (Seed: bc0502b2 Method 1: 8283, J (synch): 8236, J (no synch): 8244, K (synch): 8242, K (no synch): 8280) HP ICE 59
PID: c1fdd534 (LONELY, ability 0) 31/31/28/29/29/30 (Seed: f00c02a6 Method 1: 1397, J (synch): 1326, J (no synch): 1360, K (synch): 1324, K (no synch): None) HP PSYCHIC 36
PID: df06cbcb (BOLD, ability 1) 28/27/28/26/25/31 (Seed: a70d0277 Method 1: 15082, J (synch): 14975, J (no synch): 15081, K (synch): 14973, K (no synch): 14975) HP GRASS 46
PID: e2d3f61c (MILD, ability 0) 28/29/30/26/30/31 (Seed: 060602ab Method 1: 15990, J (synch): 15907, J (no synch): 15911, K (synch): 15907, K (no synch): 15929) HP POISON 68
PID: 7bf56f3b (JOLLY, ability 1) 25/30/30/28/30/31 (Seed: 5d1302b6 Method 1: 17478, J (synch): 17295, J (no synch): 17367, K (synch): 17299, K (no synch): 17301) HP POISON 59
PID: 21493583 (BOLD, ability 1) 28/27/31/27/28/30 (Seed: 1d03029b Method 1: 1604, J (synch): 1549, J (no synch): 1603, K (synch): 1549, K (no synch): 1551) HP BUG 49
PID: ba6baea2 (LAX, ability 0) 25/28/31/29/28/30 (Seed: 070e026a Method 1: 24456, J (synch): 24419, J (no synch): 24449, K (synch): 24419, K (no synch): 24431) HP BUG 37
PID: 9de6892f (HASTY, ability 1) 25/28/26/26/27/30 (Seed: 8411025d Method 1: 3050, J (synch): 3009, J (no synch): 3015, K (synch): 3005, K (no synch): 3011) HP STEEL 68
PID: af11bbdc (NAUGHTY, ability 0) 30/26/30/25/25/30 (Seed: 9e12029d Method 1: 2887, J (synch): 2844, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 2846, K (no synch): None) HP ELECTRIC 39
PID: 1c9d0850 (ADAMANT, ability 0) 25/26/30/25/26/31 (Seed: 830c0272 Method 1: 1090, J (synch): 1007, J (no synch): 1013, K (synch): 1008, K (no synch): 1007) HP BUG 59
PID: 626476ae (HARDY, ability 0) 29/28/31/29/25/31 (Seed: 8d1102a0 Method 1: 5643, J (synch): 5588, J (no synch): 5600, K (synch): 5588, K (no synch): None) HP DRAGON 37
PID: 9186854f (GENTLE, ability 1) 30/25/27/28/26/30 (Seed: 810d026d Method 1: 3867, J (synch): 3850, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 3854, K (no synch): 3856) HP FLYING 58
PID: 32ab2661 (DOCILE, ability 1) 29/26/27/29/25/31 (Seed: 3710025a Method 1: 9036, J (synch): None, J (no synch): None, K (synch): None, K (no synch): None) HP DRAGON 38
PID: 286d3ca1 (TIMID, ability 1) 30/31/26/28/26/31 (Seed: 72080277 Method 1: 11578, J (synch): 11549, J (no synch): 11577, K (synch): 11549, K (no synch): 11575) HP POISON 59
PID: be9faa51 (MODEST, ability 1) 30/30/25/26/29/30 (Seed: 360a02b7 Method 1: 20338, J (synch): 20047, J (no synch): 20055, K (synch): 20047, K (no synch): 20049) HP FIRE 47
PID: 0d6e19a0 (ADAMANT, ability 0) 25/26/26/25/31/31 (Seed: 3c0502b2 Method 1: 8283, J (synch): 8278, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 8278, K (no synch): None) HP ICE 59
PID: 41fd5534 (TIMID, ability 0) 31/31/28/29/29/30 (Seed: 700c02a6 Method 1: 1397, J (synch): 1348, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 1348, K (no synch): 1394) HP PSYCHIC 36
PID: 5f064bcb (NAIVE, ability 1) 28/27/28/26/25/31 (Seed: 270d0277 Method 1: 15082, J (synch): 15018, J (no synch): 15019, K (synch): 15019, K (no synch): None) HP GRASS 46
PID: 62d3761c (HARDY, ability 0) 28/29/30/26/30/31 (Seed: 860602ab Method 1: 15990, J (synch): 15973, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 15971, K (no synch): None) HP POISON 68
PID: fbf5ef3b (NAUGHTY, ability 1) 25/30/30/28/30/31 (Seed: dd1302b6 Method 1: 17478, J (synch): 17433, J (no synch): 17463, K (synch): 17435, K (no synch): 17443) HP POISON 59
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Anyone?
 
Despotar said:
Anyone?
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these two stick out in my mind

PID: a86dbca1 (LONELY, ability 1) 30/31/26/28/26/31 (Seed: f2080277 Method 1: 11578, J (synch): 11507, J (no synch): 11543, K (synch): 11507, K (no synch): 11529) HP POISON 59
PID: c1fdd534 (LONELY, ability 0) 31/31/28/29/29/30 (Seed: f00c02a6 Method 1: 1397, J (synch): 1326, J (no synch): 1360, K (synch): 1324, K (no synch): None) HP PSYCHIC 36
 
Hey guys, I haven't been on here in a while so just wondering if anyone has found the encounter slots for the Safari zone yet. I saw what's been found thus far but I didn't see the Safari Zone in it. Also, are the slots still 12 different ones with varying percentages or are they generated differnetly.
 
COKTAL said:
Hey guys, I haven't been on here in a while so just wondering if anyone has found the encounter slots for the Safari zone yet. I saw what's been found thus far but I didn't see the Safari Zone in it. Also, are the slots still 12 different ones with varying percentages or are they generated differnetly.
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Nope no one has taken the time to find them and if they did no one has posted them, so if you want to abuse the safari zone you'll have to go by trial and error.

Despotar said:
I know this is probably the n00biest question there is, but is RNGing the same in DP as in plat? (Hence DDPt
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yeah that was one of the more noobish questions i ever heard, yes the same principles apply.
 
Okay then. I've got 2 planned ones i want to try so I'll see what I can find. Is the new RNG reporter set up to show the slots for HG/SS? I remeber someone saying that they're generated differently so if I can find the slots as I go that might help some.
 
COKTAL said:
Okay then. I've got 2 planned ones i want to try so I'll see what I can find. Is the new RNG reporter set up to show the slots for HG/SS? I remeber someone saying that they're generated differently so if I can find the slots as I go that might help some.
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yes the latest RNG reporter displays HG/SS encounter slots.
 
@Despotar: This one could be good for Uber Kingdra or for Riley's egg (Lucario's anti lead set)
PID: a86dbca1 (LONELY, ability 1) 30/31/26/28/26/31 (Seed: f2080277 Method 1: 11578, J (synch): 11507, J (no synch): 11543, K (synch): 11507, K (no synch): 11529) HP POISON 59

Mixed natures are the hardest cause you kinda need all stats to be good. Have you tried TR natures? Quiet/Brave are "easier" cause the speed doesn't matter that much and most of the times you'll find some spread with 1 or 0 in Spe IVs
 
Here's my seed. I'm using method J at frame 210, delay 2101.

PID: 1fb073e7 (ADAMANT, ability 1) 29/31/31/31/30/29 (Seed: 140c083f Method 1: 329, J (synch): 210, J (no synch): 220, K (synch): 212, K (no synch): 238) HP STEEL 64


I apparently landed on my seed, but my legendary was not shiny. Instead, the pokemon I used to verify my seed was the shiny poke. What did I do wrong?
 
Chamommy said:
Here's my seed. I'm using method J at frame 210, delay 2101.

PID: 1fb073e7 (ADAMANT, ability 1) 29/31/31/31/30/29 (Seed: 140c083f Method 1: 329, J (synch): 210, J (no synch): 220, K (synch): 212, K (no synch): 238) HP STEEL 64


I apparently landed on my seed, but my legendary was not shiny. Instead, the pokemon I used to verify my seed was the shiny poke. What did I do wrong?
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ok did the legendary have the right IVs/nature if not then you just missed your frame, unless the captured pokemon didn't have the right IVs/nature for this shiny spread. Additionally, did you catch a pokemon after you interacted with the legendary or before?
 
I caught the pokemon after. I didn't think to check the IVs of the legendary and I just turned my game off to save on batteries while I waited for an answer (Yep, I pulled a stupid there.)

How would I miss my frame? I'm in front of Azelf and there are no NPCs?
 
I'm in a pickle

Trying to abuse the Arceus event for a shiny Giratina.

Seed: 930101f8 Delay: 494 Elm calls to verify:PKPE (frame 5, can only afford 4 calls). Elm Calls I get: PE(stop), or PKK(stop). Time: 5/29 1:02:00

Can anyone help me in anyway?
 
Chamommy said:
I caught the pokemon after. I didn't think to check the IVs of the legendary and I just turned my game off to save on batteries while I waited for an answer (Yep, I pulled a stupid there.)

How would I miss my frame? I'm in front of Azelf and there are no NPCs?
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well without the proper info there's nothing for me to determine what went wrong, so try again and see what happens.
 
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