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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

Deathwish-ex said:
not really
you just need a good understanding of concepts.

is iv abuse impossible without the ability to SOFT reset?
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No, you just need to press A on the screen where you can chose the game at whatever time needed instead of reseting. You'll want to re-calculate time and delay it takes for you with that, but it's possible.
 
So with journal flips, when I flip to a page with a caught pokemon, that = 2 advances? Then I would flip back and forward again for another 2? How does the number of pokmon in your party effect the seed advancement?

Thankyou for putting up with my and my questions. :p
 
Dragonzrule said:
So with journal flips, when I flip to a page with a caught pokemon, that = 2 advances? Then I would flip back and forward again for another 2? How does the number of pokmon in your party effect the seed advancement?

Thankyou for putting up with my and my questions. :p
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Every time you flip to a page that says caught x pokemon, it advances it by 2. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
OK, now I'm really confused. Last night I was able to hit the exact delay and frame I was trying to. So I decided to try another Pokemon on the same exact one. So I followed the procedure again to make sure it was the same and I decided to use the same target time and spread. So I've been trying for awhile now and the coin flips don't match anything. I'm not doing anything differently than I was yesterday. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong.


Edit: I've landed on the correct delay and I thought possibly frame and the coin flips matched so I went to catch a Pokemon and check the seed, but I kept getting an error telling me to check the DATE and TIME, but I know they were correct. I tried changing the minute in case I was off, but I kept getting an error and I couldn't find a seed. I decided to hatch the egg and see if the IVs matched, and they didn't match anything at that delay.
 
Mister Militia said:
I am haveing a hard time hitting my initial seed

My range for delay is like 610-600, (14-15 sec). I need exactly 607. I'm not sure what im hitting (i'm trying to soft reset azelf). The only thing thats weird is that 607 delay i like 10 or so seconds, which doesnt add up to what It said in calibration.

I think i did everything right, do I need to keep cracking at it (changing the date over and over is so tedious)

Also, if I am in the cave where azelf is, I need to get my Frame o be 1 under what the target is, then talk to azelf (which adds 1 more giving me my target) correct? so if it were target frame 101, I would flip my page to the one with a battle until I got to 100, then talk to azelf for 101 hitting my mark.
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Bump
 
Alright, I'm mad now. I am trying to abuse the IVs of a Salamence egg that I have right now. I plugged my info into the DPPt Time Finder and got this spread: Seed 41020227, Date 2009/06/08, Time 02:01:16, Delay 622, Frame 6. My spread is supposed to be 31/30/31/31/31/31. So I synched my clock so I could keep track, reset at the appropriate time, hit my time and delay exactly, and yet when I checked the IVs of the egg they were 27/30/30/25/31/31. I then caught a wild pokemon to check my seed, and I found that instead of 41020227, it was 31020227 (I did hit my delay and frame, though). Any ideas as to why this happened, and how to fix it?
 
Yep, basically once you can generate adjacent results, do a coin flip to see what delay you hit *Doesn't matter, don't try to hit your dream delay* then check the IV's to see what frame you hit. If it's not the same frame, I search for results on that frame and try again. This works well as resaving can take a while, whereas changing for a different spread is easier, and hell you might even get something better.
 
Chaos669 said:
Maybe catch your Pokemon in like routes 225-229 so you'll get more accurate results.
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I use the IV check code, so the results are accurate. If I can't find the IVs that way, I use rare candies/ the Seed-by-Stats method. I just want to know why I didn't hit the correct seed, but I had the correct Delay ad Frame.
 
Mister Militia said:
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Don't.

Anyhow, sounds like your delays are off. What are your delays compared to your target delays

robalo said:
Alright, I'm mad now. I am trying to abuse the IVs of a Salamence egg that I have right now. I plugged my info into the DPPt Time Finder and got this spread: Seed 41020227, Date 2009/06/08, Time 02:01:16, Delay 622, Frame 6. My spread is supposed to be 31/30/31/31/31/31. So I synched my clock so I could keep track, reset at the appropriate time, hit my time and delay exactly, and yet when I checked the IVs of the egg they were 27/30/30/25/31/31. I then caught a wild pokemon to check my seed, and I found that instead of 41020227, it was 31020227 (I did hit my delay and frame, though). Any ideas as to why this happened, and how to fix it?
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Sounds like your seconds are off. Did you check your seconds?

Always figure out exactly what you DID get with regards to seconds/delay/frame when trying to figure out what happened.

FearthePika said:
I went on my emerald today and found this Shiny spread I can do for legendaries

19359F,(322.64秒),bold,24-5-27-31-24-28,[虫42]★
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... This has what to do with DPPt?

Topic is in Evergrande.

Krul said:
Yep, basically once you can generate adjacent results, do a coin flip to see what delay you hit *Doesn't matter, don't try to hit your dream delay* then check the IV's to see what frame you hit. If it's not the same frame, I search for results on that frame and try again. This works well as resaving can take a while, whereas changing for a different spread is easier, and hell you might even get something better.
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Well, if you generate adjacent results you can also use the "search flips" feature.
 
Wait - is the seconds value that I plugged into Time Finder supposed to be how long it takes to reset, or the number displayed in the RNG Reporter? If it's the latter (and I'm now pretty much positive that it is), then I am probably the thirty-second biggest idiot ever...
 
The seconds value is your second you mostly hit in the Delay Calibration Phase. The target time is the time on your internal DS clock that has to match when you press continue.
The seconds value just makes it easier to hit Target Times. For example, 14 seconds means that all target times will end in 14 seconds, meaning you can SR right on the minute.
 
robalo said:
Wait - is the seconds value that I plugged into Time Finder supposed to be how long it takes to reset, or the number displayed in the RNG Reporter? If it's the latter (and I'm now pretty much positive that it is), then I am probably the thirty-second biggest idiot ever...
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Actually, it's the second that was on your Nintendo DS Clock the exact moment you pressed 'A' on the COntinue Screen, so, it's probably the one shown when you found your initial Seed with the Initial Seed Finder.
 
Chaos669 said:
The seconds value is your second you mostly hit in the Delay Calibration Phase. The target time is the time on your internal DS clock that has to match when you press continue.
The seconds value just makes it easier to hit Target Times. For example, 14 seconds means that all target times will end in 14 seconds, meaning you can SR right on the minute.
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But the value that I plug in is the one displayed on RNG Reporter Seed Finder, right? I've been plugging in the amount of time it takes me to reset, and it just occurred to me that that could be the problem...

EDIT: That's what I thought, Pehu! Well, now I know what to do... Thanks for the help, guys.

DOUBLE EDIT: Now I'm confused again. Which value is the seconds value? The one given to me by RNG Reporter (in the seconds column) or the amount of tme it takes me to reset?
 
The amount of time you take to reset is the value you should be putting in - you're right. Just make sure you're SRing exactly on the minute and that your DS clock is synched exactly with an external one.
 
The time it takes for you to reset is only calculated so that's easier for you to hit the same seconds value over and over again.

That's the reason the OP tells you to SR on 00 seconds, so that you'll always hit the same second on your DS clock.

So, yeah, you are probably not resetting always at the same time, or have your clocks not exactly synchronized.
 
Well, you guys were right. It turns out that I had confused myself in regards to when to reset. After synching my clocks, I would reset exactly 44 seconds later, or 16 seconds too early (so I was hitting the minute exactly, instead of 16 seconds after the minute). Oops. Thanks for helping me to realize that.
 
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