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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

You must find a spread for which at least one frame (method J gives multiple frames for the same spread) yields either the 7th or 8th slot (see my earlier post for which number corresponds to which slot), then get Marill into that slot.
 
So the first time I encounter Marill in TG he is slot 1, and I need to get him up to slot 7 or 8, and then use a spread that corresponds to slot 7 or 8 too?
 
No, the encounter table for each area in the game is usually fixed. (for example, the one for route 201 is full of Bidoof and Starly). It can vary depending on things like time of day and, on certain routes, whether or not you have a GBA game in the slot. In this case, getting a Pokemon put into the Trophy Garden as Pokemon of the day modifies the encounter table for the Trophy Garden until that Pokemon no longer appears. The first Pokemon you get put in always goes in the 7th slot. If you get another Pokemon added, the new Pokemon goes in the 7th slot and the first Pokemon moves to the 8th. All encounters in the Trophy Garden use the same encounter table.

Basically, once Marill is put in, it is always in the 7th slot, unless you get something else put in as well (the next Pokemon of the day), in which case Marill moves to the 8th.
 
So basically when I encounter a Marill he ill be slot 7?

EDIT: Okay I got a spread that Marill can use, the Dec. number is 82.
The spread is Adamant: 30/30/31/15/30/31, so it would be great for it, and the Frame is also only 421 so it will be easy enough.

Btw MinusOne, you will be getting 5 credits in my store for all of this.
If necessary we should probably bring to PM and stop filling up the RNG pages.
Let me know if you want to help me further.
 
Yes, unless you change date to tomorrow and get another Pokemon added, in which case Marill will be in slot 8. You can do that if you find a spread that works for slot 8 but not slot 7.
 
Ok so basically I keep changing date until I encounter Maril, and then start SR'ing until I hit the correct delay/seconds, correct?

*But, doesn't each Seed have a specific date, so the day I encounter Marill might not be on the possible date list for the seed I'm looking for.. ?
 
1. Pick a spread, verify that it is available in either slot 7 or slot 8.

2. set the date to the target date for that spread (or one day before if you are going for slot 8).

3. save in front of Mr. Backlot. SR and talk to him until he puts Marill in the garden.

4. If you are going for slot 8, advance to tomorrow and do it again, it doesn't matter what he puts in this time as Marill will now be in slot 8.

5. You should now be on the correct day with Marill in the correct slot, hit your target time and delay, then advance the frame (by journal flips, do not walk at all) to the target and Sweet Scent (remember when advancing that Sweet Scented Pokemon start at frame 2, not frame 1) for the Marill you were after.
 
Each time the journal opens onto a page with a capture notice, the frame advances by 2. so to hit frame 421 from frame 2, you must advance the frame by 1 (to 3), then do 209 flips. This part is well documented in the original post, so read that for details.

You can advance the frame by 1 by taking one step in the direction you start out facing (turning also advances the RNG). Make sure you use a repel to avoid getting a random encounter.
 
Okay then, but does the RNG only advance when you go onto a page of the Journal that says you caught a pokemon, and not advance at all when you go onto any other page.

ie. you switch onto a page that mentions a pokemon capture, then you switch page but no capture on that page so no advancement, but then back onto the page with the encounter and it advances by 2 again..
 
Pauric_09 said:
Okay then, but does the RNG only advance when you go onto a page of the Journal that says you caught a pokemon, and not advance at all when you go onto any other page.

ie. you switch onto a page that mentions a pokemon capture, then you switch page but no capture on that page so no advancement, but then back onto the page with the encounter and it advances by 2 again..
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Read the OP as you were advised. It is very clear on this subject.
 
Ok thanks.
Will do then.

EDIT:

- Opening the Journal, or having it automatically open, when there is a caught or defeated Pokémon on the first page advances the RNG by 2 seeds. There are a number of formats for the caught Pokémon text. Those listed below have been verified to advance the RNG.

Funny enough I didn't understand this completely.
-Does the caught poke have to be on the first page? And can you keep switching back to that page, or do you need to open/close the journal everytime?
 
Simply put: every time a page with a capture notice appears on the screen, the frame advances by 2. This means you can keep flipping back to the capture page and that it doesn't have to be the first one. You had it correct in your earlier post.
 
Ok, thanks.
So does the frame begin counting as soon as you use Sweet Scent?
And my last question is: if you encounter the wrong pokemon, how many seeds does it gain?
 
Sweet Scent causes an instant encounter. Use it only after you have advanced the frame to the target position. You should not have any encounters (remember, do not walk except if you need to advance by one frame and even then, only one step, use a repel and don't turn around) until you go for your target.
 
Oh yeah, lol. So I build my frame up to 419, then check the current frame through the Toin Coss, and if done correctly I should have a marill with the correct Nature/IVs, yes?

If so, I'm off to get Sweet Scent and I can start.
I wish you could RNG for wild shinies insead of just Hatching for them though x0

EDIT: Viletung, we don't have a full list of the encounter table to date, although MinusOne has the encounter table for Trophy Garden.
 
You check the seed first using the coin flip (which is not affected by frame), then advance the frame to 421 (your target), bearing in mind you start on frame 2 (so advance by 419, not to 419), then use Sweet Scent and you should get your Marill.

You can RNG for wild shinies but leave that for later.

I don't have the table itself, I just know which slots the Pokemon of the Day goes in.
 
The Method J Pokémon

All Sweet Scented Pokémon
Frame (Grass): 2
Frame (Cave): 2
Frame (Water): 3

Considering Marill is Water, would the frame not start on 3?
 
That doesn't mean the Pokemon's type, it means the environment in which you use Sweet Scent. The Trophy Garden is grass. What Pokemon would be cave type anyway?
 
Ok I'll give it a shot now

EDIT:

Ok so my Syncronise time is 00:34:00, so do I set both my DS and Clock time to that, and then reset at the 00:35:16 mark, and if my seconds time is 14 again I land on 00:35:30, and then I keep repeating until I hit the correct delay.

Is this right?
 
Pauric_09 said:
Ok I'll give it a shot now

EDIT:

Ok so my Syncronise time is 00:34:00, so do I set both my DS and Clock time to that, and then reset at the 00:35:16 mark, and if my seconds time is 14 again I land on 00:35:30, and then I keep repeating until I hit the correct delay.

Is this right?
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That is exactly right.
 
Ok sweet, thanks for the help.
Lol I mean this when I say this is the last question:

considering I am aiming for a delay of 421, do I increase the seeds to 419 or by 419, and then Sweet Scent?
 
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