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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

undisput3d said:
it does, and i keep getting not even a nibble. ive checked all the other frames around mine intended one, and they all say "landed a pokemon" too. so im very confused. i can even give you the frame and stuff from the rng reporter
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I'm sure you remembered but I'm just throwing it out there: Did you remember to use the Super Rod and not Old Rod or Good Rod? Also, when you checked to see if it says landed a pokemon on the encounter slot, the one with Super Rod said Landed a Pokemon and not, say, Good Rod or Old Rod?

I always get "not even a nibble" like a million times until this same damned relaxed dratini eventually comes up.
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You should only have to fish the one time, if you don't get it then, then you did something wrong (not that I can know what that is right away, I'd need more details).


EDIT: Did you also remember to account for the fact that fishing advances your frame by 4? So, say the pokemon that you want is on frame 8, you'd have to do only 2 journal flips then fish.
 
Thanks for the help guys. Yes, i did check that TimeTwister, as i did that earlier, but im positive ive been doing it right this time around. In response to the 2nd piece of advice, i kept fishing only because i wanted to see the seed i was at that made me not get the dratini i wanted.

im gonna go step by step to try and clarify what ive been doing.

1. enter the game and do the coin flip trick to verify the correct seconds and delay were hit
2. my frame is 101, and im fishing, so i subtract 4 from it as it is my monster frame. i dont have any roamers.
3. now i have 97 frames to go till i reach my goal. Im currently facing the waterfall.
4. i light tap once to the right to get to 96, then light tap to the right to get to 95, and light tap towards the waterfall to get to an even 94 frames to go
5. i then do 47 journal flips and proceed to fish
6. i fail

ill be back in an hour or two, and i would love some more help. thanks so much guys
 
undisput3d said:
Thanks for the help guys. Yes, i did check that TimeTwister, as i did that earlier, but im positive ive been doing it right this time around. In response to the 2nd piece of advice, i kept fishing only because i wanted to see the seed i was at that made me not get the dratini i wanted.

im gonna go step by step to try and clarify what ive been doing.

1. enter the game and do the coin flip trick to verify the correct seconds and delay were hit
2. my frame is 101, and im fishing, so i subtract 4 from it as it is my monster frame. i dont have any roamers.
3. now i have 97 frames to go till i reach my goal. Im currently facing the waterfall.
4. i light tap once to the right to get to 96, then light tap to the right to get to 95, and light tap towards the waterfall to get to an even 94 frames to go
5. i then do 47 journal flips and proceed to fish
6. i fail

ill be back in an hour or two, and i would love some more help. thanks so much guys
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By Right Tap once are you taking a step?
If so you should only TURN once to advance it by 1
So 101-4= 97
TURN once to make that 96
96/ 2 = 48
So 48 Journal Flips
 
ckn said:
ok need a little help.

i want to capture a nice jolly sneasel and right now im trying for a good shiny spread. i've typed in all the IVs put my ID and SID in and the sychronizer and all that jazz but i wanna know what year, max frame, and min/max delays i should use. i already did my calibration and got all even numbers(592-616) so i know i should use even numbers.. please help ^^
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just reposting ^^
 
Steveebomb7134 said:
By Right Tap once are you taking a step?
If so you should only TURN once to advance it by 1
So 101-4= 97
TURN once to make that 96
96/ 2 = 48
So 48 Journal Flips
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yeah, by tap i mean turn but not take a step. and i need to tap three times, because i enter the game world facing the waterfall. like this:

----------------------------------(waterfall)
(^) -pretend this is me

so i turn right, then turn left and turn up to face the waterfall again because you can only catch dratinis in the waterfall if im not mistaken
 
how can you get a delay of 656?? do you cut seconds by half??
and i found this spread for sealeo:
30/7/30/30/31/31
is it god for a stallrein?? i decided this because of the low frame (39)
 
for54years said:
One thing, though, is that the range of the search appears to be dictated by the range values in the middle column, not the righthand one.
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I fixed this problem in the latest version of IDFinder a while ago. Go update! :-)

timetwister said:
I'm having an issue with Pandora's Box. I'm using the left thing to find an ID/SID combination for the PID I want, but when I put the seed returned from Pandora's Box into RNG Reporter to find a target time, the delay is different than what Pandora gave me.

This is what I'm using as a reference:
Desired PID: 8efb545d
Minimum Delay: 6915

Returned seed that I chose: 89171B07, Delay 6919, ID: 30305, SID: 44229
Delay given by RNG Reporter: 6910

I suppose I could just change the year, but could I change it so that my target delay is 6917 (my most common delay in calibration)? If so, why did Pandora's Box give me that delay?

EDIT: One more question: Is it possible to get both even and odd delays in this process? I ignored some of my results in calibration because the only ones that made any sense were even and around 85% of my resets had an odd delay.

EDIT2: One last question: For a given PID, is the other nature that accompanies it the same no matter the ID/SID? I've checked a bunch of different ID/SID combinations for a partner spread for a Bold spread that I like, and every one has Hardy. =(
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About your example seed, I checked with the latest IDFinder, and I got 6910 delay on the seed you provided for year 2009. I suspect you either had the IDFinder year set to 2000 or you misread the delay.

It's possible to get even and odd delays, especially in Diamond/Pearl.

The ID/SID has no effect on the other nature paired with your PID. You may want to look for a different Bold spread that's about as good. Some Bold spreads are paired with Timid (e.g. 45EEFCF6, Bold 31/14/31/31/31/31, paired with Timid C5EE7CF6).
 
Wild Eep said:
About your example seed, I checked with the latest IDFinder, and I got 6910 delay on the seed you provided for year 2009. I suspect you either had the IDFinder year set to 2000 or you misread the delay.

It's possible to get even and odd delays, especially in Diamond/Pearl.

The ID/SID has no effect on the other nature paired with your PID. You may want to look for a different Bold spread that's about as good. Some Bold spreads are paired with Timid (e.g. 45EEFCF6, Bold 31/14/31/31/31/31, paired with Timid C5EE7CF6).
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Thanks for the help. =D

I figured the first delay thing out eventually, but the second one is good to know that I wasn't getting really far off results. I was successful already getting something else, thanks to help from for54years =D (a good Bold/Naive HP Fire spread), but I'll keep that Bold/Timid one in mind for next time. ;)
 
ckn said:
ok i'm using PokeRNG to find a shiny spread.
what should i put for start search at?
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Well the post is pretty explaitory but...
1: Put in a 1 for Method 1
2: It will then ask you for a Nature type it in (upper case) or just type non if your not looking for a specific one
3: It will then ask you for Shiny or Normal if you want shiny then enter your ID/SID
4: The ask you to search for exact or greater then or equal too IV's type in what you are looking for..
( I know your looking for Jolly and know you didnt RNG your ID/SID so i would search for 20/25/20/0/20/25 and hopefully something higher then that appears)
5: For average IV i just put in 0
6: Minimum Delay: 600 or in your case 598
7: Maximum Delay type in 699
8: Then asks you to Search and End Search at, just type in 0 for both and then it should start searching :)
 
I think im doing this right. I have a spread on RNG reporter under method J that'd i want to use to catch a Shiny Giratina. It says frame 4140 for it. I subtract 1 for Giratina so it's 4139. So I'd go into the world and check my seed with the coin flip trick. If that's right, I could run 128 steps around with 3 pokemon in my party to get the RNG to 4136. Then I open up the journal and do 2,068 journal flips. Then I talk to Giratina and check to see if It's shiny.

Now, if I just run around with a repel on then 28 steps after that, if I take more steps on accident or something to reach him, does that Advance the RNG anymore?
 
OmegaDonut said:
It varies by a little bit depending on the length of the cry the Sweet Scenting Pokemon makes. You just have to figure it out by trial and error.
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been trying for like 4 straight hours and i keep just missing it im using oddish btw im getting 4.8-5.1 usually
if anyone know exactly what it is that would help alot
 
So my Giratina time is
2009 02/16
21:59:59

Does that mean I press A on the DS startup screen at 59 seconds? Or I need to load the game at 59 seconds.
 
you need to be hitting continue game at the 59 second mark. so if your time from soft reset to in game is 14 seconds, you want to soft reset at the 45 second mark to hopefully hit "continue game" at the 59 second mark
 
undisput3d said:
you need to be hitting continue game at the 59 second mark. so if your time from soft reset to in game is 14 seconds, you want to soft reset at the 45 second mark to hopefully hit "continue game" at the 59 second mark
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So far I've been hittin my target time according to my PC clock, but Ive noticed it ticks somewhat randomly =/ Is there some online watch or something someone can direct me to?

And as for using Google, I always have bad luck with Google.. I get sites that have nothing to do with my search and junk.
 
pastel said:
what's emloop??
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Ok, I'm only going to do this once so listen up.

Emloop

So you want to hit a delay of 656. What is your normal delay? Let's say it's 596.

First thing to do is subtract your normal delay from your target delay: 656 - 596 = 60. This means that you need to wait an extra 60 frames at the continue screen. Put 60 into the top left box, with the F next to it. Then press the button below it with the two arrows pointing down. This converts the number into seconds. You should get 1.

Now you need to add your normal seconds time to this box. Again, let's use mine which is 14. So now I have 15 in that box. This is the total amount of time required to enter the game at the right time. Since you reset a minute before, take this number from 59, which gives you 44.00 and stick that in the box to the right.

What you have now is everything you need to start trying to hit your delay. If your spread is on XX:01:59, then synch up your DS at XX:01:00. Hit the big button in the middle to start the timer. You should reset when the first counter, and then enter the game after the second counter. Do your coin flips and see how far off you were.

Now this is all hard to grasp without a picture, so I made another shoddy one to aid my explanation:

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But all this is already in the first post, and that has better pictures with annotations and everything! In fact this post sucks.
 
i got a little problem, everytime in the RNG that i try to find a time giving a seed, it always gives me low delays(no more than 680), and and its hard to get them, also everytime i put a year more, the delay decreases, so the maximum number is at the year 2000, is this a bug, or is it the seed??
it's because im looking for a delay i can get, what i usually do is a delay of about 780.
 
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