My first RMT (After a long break)

OkamiWhiteKitsune

Hello Smogon, im still fairly new to todays current meta-game having been away for quite some time, anyway down to business

I was wondering if you people of smogon, would rate my old Standard team, i have based my team on Shiney Pokemon i have chained Via the DS

Now introducing the team

~The Lead~
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Staraptor(Pride)@Choice scarf
Adamant 4HP 252 Attack 252 Spd
Ability:Intimidate
~Brave Bird
~Return
~Close Combat
~ U-turn
I have been a fan of my staraptor lead for quite some time, he's fast and his moves have great coverage normally i just U-turn on the foe, But for the likes of Lead Heatran I use close combat, in my opinion the best heatran is a dead heatran :P

~The Physical Tank~
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Gliscor(BatWoman)@Yache Berry
Jolly Nature 252HP 40 Defence 216 Speed
Ability:Sand Veil
~Swords Dance
~Earthquake
~Ice Fang
~Roost
I put Gliscor in to counter pokemon such as Lucario and Tyranitar whom would otherwise take out the majority of my team, i have Swords dance to Increase his power to help with KO'ing pokemon Roost is reliable recovery, i have ice fang on there for the likes of other gliscor whom would otherwise wall me (Stone edge dosent do that much to Gliscor)

~Special Wall~
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Bronzong(TollsForU)@Leftovers
Sassy Nature 252HP 86 Attack 82 defence spc.defence 92
Ability: Levitate
~Gyro Ball
~Earthquake
~Stealth Rock
~Hypnosis
This is my special wall for this team, Bronzong i like bronzong for a number of reasons, the main one being it can set up stealth rock, while still being able to wall special attacks, i have been considering a special based Bronzong with Psychic and another move quite possibly Explosion, im thinking of using Psychic due to Ninetales Being the only Special Attacker on this team
~The Flash Fire Fox~
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Ninetales(Kyuubi)@Life Orb
Timid Nature 4HP 252spc.Attack 252 Speed
Ability: Flash Fire
~Nasty Plot
~Flamethrower
~Energy Ball
~Hidden power (Ground)
This is my favourite pokemon, my FlashFireFox Ninetales, the only pokemon in this team i will not remove, however i am willing to change its set should someone get an idea for a new one of which could benefit my team, i chose the standard set for now and My ninetales has pulled off quite a few sweeps.
~Taste Vengenace!~
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Weavile(Shadow)@Choice Band
Jolly Nature 40HP 252 Attack 252 Speed
Ability: Pressure
~Ice Shard
~Brick Break
~Pursuit
~Night Slash
This is my revenge killer, My weavile is my main check on rotom and gengar, a favoured stratergy of mine is to U-turn on a lead azelf, then pursuit with weavile to score the cheap KO, weavile is also a good check on Salamence whom, none of my other Pokemon Bar Gliscor can take down
~Coup'De Grace~
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Rypherior(Ryu)@Leftovers
Jolly Nature 4defence 252 Attack 252 Speed
Ability: Solid Rock
~Rock Polish
~Earthquake
~Stone edge
~Megahorn
The Finisher of my team, made to be a late game sweeper after one rock polish this thing is a pain in the... well you get the idea, i have eq and stone edge for stab with Megahorn been used for psychics such as cresselia >_< I have been considering some kind of rock polish or prehaps dragon dance Tyranitar in this slot.


So there it Is smogon, my Standard team Please keep to nice Criticism :D As i am fairly new to this Metagame the Main pokemon i have been having trouble with is Suicune, but i cant think of anything to add in to my team to vanquish that (Ninetales has to be at about +4 for Energyball to even scratch) so if anyone has any ideas on how to take it down i would be Very Greatful, ok thank you, and bye
 
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anyways, scarftar absolutely runs through this team, barring Zong. What I would suggest would be to add Scizor over Ninetales. The CB variant would fit well on your team, seeing that you need a scout. and Ninetales doesnt do much for your team other than make it look cool.

Just a tiny rate so my initial message doesnt make this post become spam.
 
anyways, scarftar absolutely runs through this team, barring Zong. What I would suggest would be to add Scizor over Ninetales. The CB variant would fit well on your team, seeing that you need a scout.

My only problem with this is that i would then have 3 choice users which isnt that good but thanks for your suggestion anyway
 
Use the quote function next time. I thought you were rating your own team for a minute.

However, you could use a SD Scizor to deal with Scarftar. Like Ill-minded, I suggest swapping Ninetales out for this one. Or change Gliscor for it.
Scizor @ Life Orb (technician)
Adamant Nature
32 HP / 252 Atk / 224 Spe
-Swords Dance
-Bullet Punch
-Brick Break / Super Power
-Bug Bite / Roost / Quick Attack

Rhyperior is good, however, Tyranitar is better. The problem is sandstorm, which may prove to be detrimental to other Pokemon.
If you want to try Tyranitar out, then:
Tyranitar @ Babiri Berry
Adamant Nature
4 HP, 252 ATK, 252 SPE
-Dragon Dance
-Stone Edge
-Crunch
-Fire Punch
 
I'm not quite sure what Staraptor is here for: your using him as a lead, but he seems more like a revenge killer than a lead to me, and you already have a better revenge killer in Weavile. I'd suggest a few things. As it stands, your team has a big weakness to Rock, Water, and Ice. The best lead I can think of for covering this is Swampert.

Swampert @ Leftovers
Relaxed
252 HP/ 4 Att / 252 Def
-Ice Beam
-Stealth Rock
-Earthquake
-Surf/Roar

If you want, run more Attack EV's over Defence, or use Roar over Surf to act as a phazer. Try it out, let us know how it works.
 
If I were you, I would put Bronzong as lead as it does a much better job at leading that staraptor, I would use staraptor as more of a scout/revenge killer. And if you plan on laddering at all, you will have to remove ninetails, for the simple reason that Gyardos, Gengar, Kingdra, <Insert any offensive pokemon bar maybe Scizor/Heracross/Lucario> craps all over it. Not to sound like a jerk or anything, but Ninetails is NU pokemon for a reason. Just slap a MixApe in there to take its place.
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Sheshi said:
Use the quote function next time. I thought you were rating your own team for a minute.

However, you could use a SD Scizor to deal with Scarftar. Like Ill-minded, I suggest swapping Ninetales out for this one. Or change Gliscor for it.
Scizor @ Life Orb (technician)
Adamant Nature
32 HP / 252 Atk / 224 Spe
-Swords Dance
-Bullet Punch
-Brick Break / Super Power
-Bug Bite / Roost / Quick Attack

Rhyperior is good, however, Tyranitar is better. The problem is sandstorm, which may prove to be detrimental to other Pokemon.
If you want to try Tyranitar out, then:
Tyranitar @ Babiri Berry
Adamant Nature
4 HP, 252 ATK, 252 SPE
-Dragon Dance
-Stone Edge
-Crunch
-Fire Punch
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Very interesting ideas, as i stated in the rmt i have been considering switching rypherior for a tyranitar and youve given me a set i could use thanks a bunch

Slyguy46 said:
I'm not quite sure what Staraptor is here for: your using him as a lead, but he seems more like a revenge killer than a lead to me, and you already have a better revenge killer in Weavile. I'd suggest a few things. As it stands, your team has a big weakness to Rock, Water, and Ice. The best lead I can think of for covering this is Swampert.

Swampert @ Leftovers
Relaxed
252 HP/ 4 Att / 252 Def
-Ice Beam
-Stealth Rock
-Earthquake
-Surf/Roar

If you want, run more Attack EV's over Defence, or use Roar over Surf to act as a phazer. Try it out, let us know how it works.
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I will give this a try, i now have a counter for that annoying suicune >_< thanks alot for your input.

ChernobylOverseer said:
If I were you, I would put Bronzong as lead as it does a much better job at leading that staraptor, I would use staraptor as more of a scout/revenge killer. And if you plan on laddering at all, you will have to remove ninetails, for the simple reason that Gyardos, Gengar, Kingdra, <Insert any offensive pokemon bar maybe Scizor/Heracross/Lucario> craps all over it. Not to sound like a jerk or anything, but Ninetails is NU pokemon for a reason. Just slap a MixApe in there to take its place.
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Ive taken down many Heracross scizor gengar and Lucario with my Ninetales, however i see your point, should push come to shove and i really get into laddering i will add a mix ape over my ninetales, as it is i play only for fun at the minute however your comment is very much appreciated and i will consider a change prehaps in the future

And for the record, you do not sound like a jerk this forum is about free expression of opinions on other peoples teams, so i thank you for your advice
 
The thing is FlashFireFox, your lead isn't quite up to par to the standard leads in the metagame. It doesn't lay down Stealth Rocks, nor does it really accomplish anything. Sure it beats out a couple of leads, but what are you going to do about bulkier leads (like Gliscor, etc)

Although you do get to screw up Ttar leads which is nice.
While using your favorite pokemon is nice (i've used Raichu from time to time)
it's not so good if they aren't up to par. I know you don't want to remove, but we can't help you if you aren't willing to change.

I suggest using Heatran over Ninetails as it's a much better special sweeper. Plus it would help counter Scizor better.
 
PK Gaming said:
it's not so good if they aren't up to par. I know you don't want to remove, but we can't help you if you aren't willing to change.

I suggest using Heatran over Ninetails as it's a much better special sweeper. Plus it would help counter Scizor better.
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as i said earlier i am willing to change Ninetales in the future, should i start laddering and in answer to your question regarding Gliscor, i will normally u-turn out however you do have a valid point any suggestion of what i should use in its place?

just one thing im going to say read the post where i said "should push come to shove and i really get into laddering i will add a mix ape over my ninetales, as it is i play only for fun at the minute"

however thanks for your suggestions
 
You could make Gliscor the lead.
Not only does he make a great lead but he still can perform his countering roles.


Legacy Raider's own Gliscor lead:

Gliscor @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Veil
Jolly (+Spe, -SpA)
252 HP / 40 Def / 216 Spe
- Earthquake
- Taunt
- U-turn
- Roost

You can now screw over slower leads. Gliscor is also useful later on too.
 
One problem with this team is that it uses shiny Pokemon chained on the DS; in other words, not RNG-abused Pokemon. Your Pokemons' stats are lower than those of most Wi-Fi players, so you need to use new Pokemon.

On to the team itself. The biggest problem I see with this team is that it does not establish a goal that works. Rock Polish Rhyperior doesn't make a good sweeper in the current metagame because Scizor, the overwhelming number one Pokemon, can easily switch in and use Bullet Punch. Ninetales, your other sweeper, falls easily to passive damage from all three of Stealth Rock, Life Orb, and Sandstorm. Ninetales cannot sweep well either, since Latias, Salamence, and Blissey are all hard counters to it. Choice Band Weavile is also a bad choice for the current metagame because it loses 25% of its HP every time it switches in and is completely stopped by Scizor. As mentioned earlier, Staraptor accomplishes very little for your team, because it can neither set up Stealth Rock nor prevent the opponent from getting it up. Staraptor will rarely OHKO the opponent's lead, and, like Weavile, it has the same problem with Stealth Rock.

This team needs to be completely redone. Not only do the Pokemon have below-average stats, but the team does not work well in the current metagame.
 
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