My team reborn and changed up(WIFI)

Lightsabre

Hey everybody. I'm thankfull that people rated this team earlier but I don't have the time(I'm only alowed an hour a day to play pokemon including Shoddy) to make all the new additions with IVs and natures and all. So I'm looking for a better way to use the team I have now. Here it is


Electrivire @ Expert Belt
Naughty
252ATK/252SPEED/4HP
Motor Drive

Thunder Punch
Ice Punch
Cross Chop
Earthquake

I used to lead with forry to get the rocks up quickly but I soon found my friends(the only people I play against due to bad WIFI) leading with a counter to it. So I now lead with this guy, there's almost nothing that can beat him that's desighned to counter forry(I still switch to forretress for a lead every-once-in-a-while to make people unsure who I'm going to lead with). With fantastic coverage and Super Effective hits on 13 types this thing will wreak havoc. if I switch it out and come back later to get a MD boost then it get's almost unstopable(please don't tell me to remove him but I might put someone else in lead.

I have decided that I'll lead with someone else. I'm leaning towards the Flash Fire Arcanine suggested by CHENN. any opinions otherwise?
Milotic @ Leftovers
Bold
252DEF/156HP/100SPDEF
Marvel Scale

Surf
Ice Beam
Recover
Aqua Ring/Hypnosis

I havn't decided whether to run the ResTalk set or not yet so any comments on this would be nice. My "Bulky water type" and a pretty nice anser to common dragons(like my brothers anoyying BandNite). I havn't finnished LVing him up so any EV suggestions can be accepted.

I might try Hypnosis since people are telling me to drop aqua ring

Gliscor @ Leftovers
Impish
252DEF/252HP
Sand Veil

Earthquake
Stealth Rock
Ice Fang
Roost

The first thing you might think is I need Ice Fang. However I'm fine with Dragons but I hate Heracross(no I actualy like Hera but my bro uses it and it gets realy anoyying with stone edge). Otherwise it's EVs are questionable since I want some damage out of it but I don't want to comprimise to much DEF for this. EV help would be appritiated.

I have a bad felling about this change(ice fang for arial ace) but I'll try it. Also the HP is now maxed instead of giving some up to ATK.

Forretress @ Occa Berry
Impish
252HP/252DEF
Sturdy

Gyro Ball
Spikes
Rapid Spin
Earthquake/Toxic Spikes

I used to have SR on this guy and have Heatran in Gliscors place but Heatran was EVd wrong and couldn't be Scarfed effectively. I'm torn between Status and another offencive move. I realy want rapid spin as my friends have coppied my old Forry idea(yes I'm talking to you yellowfire7) and Toxic Spikes is a pain to deal with. I need a comprimise between Gliscors recovery and Forrys Rapid Spin. any ideas?

Draginite @ Choice Specs
Modest
252SPATK/252SPEED/4HP
Inner Focus

Draco Meteor
Flamethrower
Thunderbolt
Dragon Pulse

OK this guy is my second favorite pokeon(sorry but I just love charizard) and I chose it over SpecsMence for a couple of reasons, 1 I just like it better(not a vey good reason) and 2 it's deffences are better. It's very straitforward, Draco Meteor early on in the game to just blow holes in the opponents team and Dragon Pulse for late game sweeping. Thunderbolt+Ice Beam means that steels won't be ruining my fun(if it's imune to thunderbolt then it's Steelix and takes avverage dammage from ice beam). Ice beam has other good points but this is the major one.
I'll try flamethrower for better steel coverage and asid from that now that I look at the chart flamethrower + Dragon Pulse hits everything ice beam hits and more


Ryperior @ Leftovers
Relaxed
252HP/100DEF/156ATK
Soild Rock

Earthquake
Stone Edge
Mega Horn
Substitute


I said in my earlier RMT that this was my physical wall but that isn't true especialy with the addition of Gliscor.
He has a wonderfull combination of Offence and Deffence and can brush off all but the most powerfull super-effective hits. EQ+SE=realy nice coverage and Mega Horn for another strong attack. I'm considering giving him Avalanche over MH but I only get one of those TMs(I think) and I don't know anyone who will give me one. His subs are monstrous and if I use them when facing the right opponent then he'll be next to unstopable.



I've made some changes and due to request put a barrier here
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OK I have some Pokes in reserve that could work and I'll try them if someone tells me to.

Salamence
Adament
252ATK/252SPEED/4HP
Intimadate

Dragon Dance
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
Ariel Ace(might switch to roost)

I don't think I need to give a dicription to these guys but if I put them in my team I will

Garchomp @ Life Orb
Adamant
252ATK/252SPEED/4HP
Sand Veil

Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Fire Fang
Swords Dance


Magnazone @ Leftovers
Modest
252SPATK/not yet finnished
Magnet Pull

Thunderbolt
HP[dragon]
Magnet Rise
Substitute

Merely commenting that I got HP[dragon] by accident, so don't expect me to be able to come up with more


Metagross @ Leftovers
Naughty
252ATK/180SPEED/76HP
Clear Body

Earthquake
Meteor Mash
Bullet Punch
Agility


I have much more but I don't feel like saying them so...... RMT please
 
Bump. Please give me some advice. I need another special attacker, preferably a fire type, and a mix of Forretress' Rapid spin(must have) and Gliscors recovery move.
 
Do NOT put in Salamence or Garchomp without some major Changes

For one, you have...
Dragonite 4x Ice Weakness
Gliscor 4x Ice Weakness

If you add another dragon, you'll have three 4x Ice Weaknesses, which'll leave you completely crippled.

For Milotic Put Hypnosis instead of Aqua Ring. Recover instead of Rest.
Milotic doesn't fear statuses because of Marvel Scale.

What i never understood... Why put SOMANY EV's into Attack for Forry, when you could be using those precious EVs for Def?
Anyways, don't go with EQ. Go with Stealth Rock or TOxic Spikes. I use Toxic Spikes, but Stealth Rock is a great move, as it hurts Gyarados, Salamence, Dragonite, Charizard, Crobat, Yanmega, Ninjask, and many more for Super Effective Damage.

Also, if you chose Dragonite for better defenses, why not use those defenses? That's just my opinion. Either way, I'm confused as to why you have Dragon Pulse AND Draco Meteor. Take dragon pulse off and put on something like fire blast because without any Defense EV's, dragonite won't be fighting with specs for 5 turns.

Basically, you have 3 physical walls, and 1 mixed wall. Electivire is only good with prediction, so don't use him as a lead, as that makes the opponent wary of the fact that you could switch to him. I suggest somethin with fire moves, as countering bronzong gets a little tedious without the right moves.

As a lead, i personlly like Arcanine. Use Intimidate or Flash fire. Whichever you prefer. For your team i would say flash fire, as that would cancel out the 4x Fire Weakness from Forry. Remember, just like Electivire be wary when using these types of abilities. I used a strange arcanine, i thought was creative, but was probably already made long ago.

Hasty@Life Orb (not sure what else to put)
252 Spd/156 Sp.Atk/100 Atk.
Thunder Fang
FlameThrower
Crunch/Extremespeed
Dragon Pulse

I put dragon pulse there for the sole reason Of a 2HKO on Salamence. Extremespeed is there for the nice strike first speed priority.

Also, be careful of garchomp, as your team doesn't have a reliable counter.
Electivire's not fast enough, and milotic won't OHKO if Chomp has a yache berry.

Good luck with your team, and hope i helped with my long post :P
 
CHENN said:
Do NOT put in Salamence or Garchomp without some major Changes

For one, you have...
Dragonite 4x Ice Weakness
Gliscor 4x Ice Weakness

If you add another dragon, you'll have three 4x Ice Weaknesses, which'll leave you completely crippled.

For Milotic Put Hypnosis instead of Aqua Ring. Recover instead of Rest.
Milotic doesn't fear statuses because of Marvel Scale.

What i never understood... Why put SOMANY EV's into Attack for Forry, when you could be using those precious EVs for Def?
Anyways, don't go with EQ. Go with Stealth Rock or TOxic Spikes. I use Toxic Spikes, but Stealth Rock is a great move, as it hurts Gyarados, Salamence, Dragonite, Charizard, Crobat, Yanmega, Ninjask, and many more for Super Effective Damage.

Also, if you chose Dragonite for better defenses, why not use those defenses? That's just my opinion. Either way, I'm confused as to why you have Dragon Pulse AND Draco Meteor. Take dragon pulse off and put on something like fire blast because without any Defense EV's, dragonite won't be fighting with specs for 5 turns.

Basically, you have 3 physical walls, and 1 mixed wall. Electivire is only good with prediction, so don't use him as a lead, as that makes the opponent wary of the fact that you could switch to him. I suggest somethin with fire moves, as countering bronzong gets a little tedious without the right moves.

As a lead, i personlly like Arcanine. Use Intimidate or Flash fire. Whichever you prefer. For your team i would say flash fire, as that would cancel out the 4x Fire Weakness from Forry. Remember, just like Electivire be wary when using these types of abilities. I used a strange arcanine, i thought was creative, but was probably already made long ago.

Hasty@Life Orb (not sure what else to put)
252 Spd/156 Sp.Atk/100 Atk.
Thunder Fang
FlameThrower
Crunch/Extremespeed
Dragon Pulse

I put dragon pulse there for the sole reason Of a 2HKO on Salamence. Extremespeed is there for the nice strike first speed priority.

Also, be careful of garchomp, as your team doesn't have a reliable counter.
Electivire's not fast enough, and milotic won't OHKO if Chomp has a yache berry.

Good luck with your team, and hope i helped with my long post :P
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thank you for that. You actualy said the only reason Garchomp isn't on this team, it's 4x weakness. I will keep Draginites Dragon pulse because
Draco meteor can't perform a finnishing sweep because of it's side effect and Dragon pulse can. Milotic has never fainted from chomp so I'm not worried. Realy I only have one phisical wall one rappid spinner and a bulky sweeper. I don't know why the atk EVs on Forry I just heard that he should have them. I think I put that I'm staying away from TS because my brother (the guy I almost allways face) uses Heracross evey time and SR is on Gliscor(though I havn't completed Glisc so at the time Forry does have SR). Actualy the reason that I chose Dragonite over Salamence is mainly because I had just finnished the DD sal and was tired of him :). That Arcanine could be exatly what I'm looking for. A better lead, a fire type, and a mix sweeper. But who do I get rid of? I want to have a pokemon with rapid spin, a recovery move not called rest, and high deffences. I would then get rid of both Forry and Gliscor and then I'd have room for another pokemon. Does anyone know of one?
 
HotPocket said:
Milotic takes status as a beast anyways with Marvel Scale so it shouldn't matter -_-

I know but with the recovery I can take the status and then not even take damage.
If more breeding means a better team, go ahead and do it

I can only play a hour a day. So if I can avoid breeding I will.
Plus I'm already in another breeding project that's taking all of my time
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Is there a huge weakness or something of that sort to this team? That's the main reason I posted this team, that and finding a Rapid Spinner that could wall deffencively with a recovery move. Please help
 
HotPocket said:
If milotic is downed, Heatran sweeps
not realy. if it's ScarfTran it can't hit all of my pokes and if it's not then it's to slow to do much of anything. but thank you
Forrtress is a better lead than E-vire (even with all the taunters)

My freinds got to leading with pokes like Blaziken but normaly I see better results with forry yes
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Lightsabre said:
any particular reason?
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Assuming he meant flamethrower > ice beam, it's because it hits most steels for super-effective damage. Ice beam, which only helps against steelix. And steelix really has no business switching into specsnite in the first place. Heatran is the only steel that isn't hit for at least neutral damage by a fire attack, and the fiery frog 4x resists ice beam anyway, so you won't be dealing much damage to it unless you sport a water- or ground attack, or focus punch.
 
you know, it would be easier to rate if you narrowed you team to 6 pokes, like everyone else who asks for an RMT.

dont lead with electivire, it takes away from motor drive, by alot. also run a different moveset that donphan doesnt wall.

put hp ice on your magnezone for better coverage. yes rebreed, or else, tangrowth and roserade wont be tempted to switch.

keep either recover or aqua ring on milotic, not both, that just takes away from what it can do.

gliscor cant play two roles at once. either make it do damage, or support, not a combination of the two. offensive get Swords dance, and ditch aerial ace. i dont care what you say, ditch it.

im too lazy to see the rest of you pokes because there are so many. no offense, sorry. but hey at least i offered advice, unlike 140 other people
 
Lightsabre said:
I want to have a pokemon with rapid spin, a recovery move not called rest, and high deffences. I would then get rid of both Forry and Gliscor and then I'd have room for another pokemon. Does anyone know of one?
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Starmie has both Recover and Rapid Spin, and 85 in each defense. It's not exactly stellar defenses, but it's the only one that I could find that knew both Rapid Spin and a non-Rest recovery move. (Besides Smeargle, of course) That good?
 
yellowfire7 said:
Starmie has both Recover and Rapid Spin, and 85 in each defense. It's not exactly stellar defenses, but it's the only one that I could find that knew both Rapid Spin and a non-Rest recovery move. (Besides Smeargle, of course) That good?
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Thanks. I guess that's the only one isn't it :( . I'm not likeing having Gliscor due to it's 4x weakness to ice which is shared by Dragonite, so I might switch to Scarmory. I'd use this set


Impish @ leftovers
252HP/252ATK
Sturdy

Whirlwind
SR
Roost
Drill Peck/Brave Bird

Any thoughts?
 
Focus Punch on specs? no. I've survived ice beams (unstabed of course) and that's the main reason I use nite. I guess you shouldn't lock this just yet.
 
Most Blisseys have Ice Beam to keep from being walled by Ghosts so FP wouldn't help there much. I might suvive the ice beam but my focus wouldn't. Does anyone think it would be bad to switch Gliscor For the Scarmory mentioned above?
 
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